Bad garage work

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Lov31l

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41 posts

92 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Hello,

After a bit of advise on where I stand. Recently had the brakes fully refreshed on my carby a local garage. I supplied all the parts and they fitted them (front pads, disks all round, braided brake lines and fluids). On collecting the car I realised one of my alloys had a chunk of paint missing, he accepted fault and agreed to pay for it to be refurbished, so yesterday I swapped my wheels around so I could get that one done upon removing the font wheels I noticed the brake lines had been gauged into (starting to wear into the braid). This was due to him not checking that the lines didn't catch between lock so the inner rim and a wheel weight had been attacking the lines even when the wheel was slightly turned. How would people approach dealing with this? I paid £150 for the work to be done to a terrible standard as I'm finding out.
Thanks

steveo3002

10,515 posts

174 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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should the correct brake lines rub/catch ? maybe you have the wrong ones, thats why its sometimes best to have them supply and fit the parts and its all thier problem then

mikeveal

4,571 posts

250 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Show the Garage owner and see what he says.

Be prepared to chalk it up to experience, write a few bad reviews, tell all your friends and learn to do the job yourself.

Lov31l

Original Poster:

41 posts

92 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Thanks for the replies. Yeah I am ready to chalk it up to experience, would be nice if he pays for the replacement parts though. Only reason I supplied the parts is I'm starting to use the car more on track so went for parts uprated parts. The lines are goodridge and the correct fit I've adjusted them now to miss (how they should if been). the really annoying thing is I had planned on doing it myself just very busy recently and I started getting hints that the parts had been sat around the house too long so booked it in to the local specialist. I understand damage can happen, it only takes a spanner to slip and bounce but the brakes could/would of turned dangerous if they went un-noticed.

anonymous-user

54 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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To be honest, if someone offered to fit that lot for only £150, I'd be wondering how competent he was........

Mgd_uk

369 posts

104 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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REALIST123 said:
To be honest, if someone offered to fit that lot for only £150, I'd be wondering how competent he was........
Really? Discs and pads, and lines, wouldnt be much more than 1 - 1.5 hours work.

andymc

7,350 posts

207 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Mgd_uk said:
REALIST123 said:
To be honest, if someone offered to fit that lot for only £150, I'd be wondering how competent he was........
Really? Discs and pads, and lines, wouldnt be much more than 1 - 1.5 hours work.
thought lines took a while?

SVTRick

3,633 posts

195 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Mgd_uk said:
Really? Discs and pads, and lines, wouldnt be much more than 1 - 1.5 hours work.
Typical PH response. 1-1.5hrs work - yeah !




That's fair price for the work though a pity it was a very poor standard
maybe the fitter tried to turn the job round in the hour.


TooMany2cvs

29,008 posts

126 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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andymc said:
Mgd_uk said:
REALIST123 said:
To be honest, if someone offered to fit that lot for only £150, I'd be wondering how competent he was........
Really? Discs and pads, and lines, wouldnt be much more than 1 - 1.5 hours work.
thought lines took a while?
Full set of pipes, yes.
Just the flexis, no.

Were these OEM-sized alloys? I'm wondering if they were bigger aftermarket, and the braided hoses simply got in their way.

No excuse for him not flagging it as a problem, of course, rather than just assuming and letting it out.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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This is quite a common problem with the pointless aeroquip style brake hoses, they are so stiff in torsion they tend to tie themselves in knots and move around a lot when you steer. This is rarely if ever a problem with the original rubber covered hoses.

fushion julz

614 posts

173 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Mr2Mike said:
This is quite a common problem with the pointless aeroquip style brake hoses, they are so stiff in torsion they tend to tie themselves in knots and move around a lot when you steer. This is rarely if ever a problem with the original rubber covered hoses.
The braided hoses (whatever brand) offer a lot more feel over the rubber hoses...they also deteriorate much less, are less prone to catching fire, too!...They certainly are far from useless for a track car!

Mgd_uk

369 posts

104 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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SVTRick said:
Typical PH response. 1-1.5hrs work - yeah !




That's fair price for the work though a pity it was a very poor standard
maybe the fitter tried to turn the job round in the hour.
Yeah, I fitted a full set of discs/pads and braided lines a few weeks ago on an E46, took me less than 2 hours one night.

Lov31l

Original Poster:

41 posts

92 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Popped in tonight and saw the bloke who did the work, got £40 for the damage he caused to my alloy and he accepted that he had not checked the lines didn't foul the wheel (wheels are the original) although noting the lines were slightly longer and had discarded the original brackets to substitute them for p clips something he never mentioned to me. Other than handing me the original brackets and hoses back he didn't do much else. At the end of the day I'm fine and the car will live on, luckily I noticed the issue very early on. The lines will be replaced when the new ones arrive and I will adjust the brackets to suit the new lines. My only concern is his negligent behaviour on such an important part of the car, not everyone would notice such issues, I certainly wouldn't if it wasn't for the damage he had caused to my wheel. As for the effectiveness of braided lines I've been impressed up to yet but had a lot of the system changed so can't comment on just the lines, but they look a lot nicer than the standard ones so I'm happy with them.

Mr2Mike

20,143 posts

255 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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fushion julz said:
The braided hoses (whatever brand) offer a lot more feel over the rubber hoses...they also deteriorate much less, are less prone to catching fire, too!...They certainly are far from useless for a track car!
The difference in feel on a road car compared to rubber hoses in good condition is very small.IME, on a bike where you get feedback through your fingers its more noticeable.

On a race car there are advantages as you say, but they aren't the best choice for a road car, a bit like polyureathane bushes.

Mound Dawg

1,915 posts

174 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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I have a suspicion that the improvement in pedal feel that most people attribute to braided hoses is more to do with the nice new fluid the car got when the hoses were fitted than the hoses themselves.

Sebring440

2,003 posts

96 months

Tuesday 28th March 2017
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Mound Dawg said:
I have a suspicion that the improvement in pedal feel that most people attribute to braided hoses is more to do with the nice new fluid the car got when the hoses were fitted than the hoses themselves.
I have a suspicion, that as you would only feel a difference between old / new brake fluid if it actually boiled, before that point, it would feel exactly the same.

anonymous-user

54 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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Sebring440 said:
Mound Dawg said:
I have a suspicion that the improvement in pedal feel that most people attribute to braided hoses is more to do with the nice new fluid the car got when the hoses were fitted than the hoses themselves.
I have a suspicion, that as you would only feel a difference between old / new brake fluid if it actually boiled, before that point, it would feel exactly the same.
And possibly the difference is felt in order to validate the cash spentsmile

grumpy52

5,574 posts

166 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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The difference in feel after all new brakes and braided hoses compared to the old set up can be summed up in one word .
NEW .