Electric Central Heating

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BorniteIdentity

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1,055 posts

130 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Hey!

Not expecting a lot of help here, but MAYBE someone has experience either professionally or domestically?

We have a house that we rent out, which is currently serviced via Oil Fired Central Heating. The boiler really is on its last legs, and being put outside in a shed hasn't really helped.

A like for like replacement combi boiler is going to come in at about £3000 by the time I've had it fitted and paid the VAT. We'd need to have an external boiler, as venting it within regulations is almost impossible without causing a proper eyesore.

Before we go down that road, I've been looking at an electrical alternative and it seems to make good sense.

A) They've come a long, long way since night storage heaters.
2) They're maintenance free.
D) They're easily replaced if/when they die. (although one company offers a 30 year warranty LOL)

It's a two up, two down mid terraced cottage - so about 5 radiators should be sufficient. The joy is if it's not, it's a doddle to add more at a later date.

Unfortunately, this means a solution will be required for hot water. No problem though, the kitchen sink could easily be served by a small 10l water heater sited underneath, which would just mean we'd need to fit an immersion system for the bath/shower. This could be further mitigated with an electric shower (the cubicle is separate to the bath itself).

So, does anyone have proper electric radiators in their house? (not free standing oil filled rads)
Any ideas how much it'd be to have a water tank and immersion system installed in the loft right above the bathroom?
Is there anything I'm not thinking of?

Obviously I'll have a load of radiators, a really nice oil tank and a boiler that I can flog which will help on costs - so that'll help.

Any thoughts?

Hope to hear.

sidekickdmr

5,075 posts

206 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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You are having the exact opposite issue of mine

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...

Personally it seems crazy to remove all of the infrastructure of the oil and replace with inferior electrics

However, the big difference with your scenario, is you wont be paying the electric bill!!

What type of heaters are you planning to put on the walls? night storage? infared? oil filled?

Might be worth considering under floor electric heating too.

BorniteIdentity

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1,055 posts

130 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Yes, the joy is the bills aren't mine - and the fact maintenance isn't required makes it more appealing.

The house is in a village 10 miles from Cambridge. Demand for rental property in the area is high, and there are probably only 15 2 bedroom houses in the whole village, so there's definitely more demand than supply. I appreciate storage heaters aren't to everyone's taste, but when I was renting you couldn't really afford to be fussy. There was always someone else ready to take the property.

Not really looked into the options very far. I do like the idea of something that can be both individually and centrally controlled though. Won't be underfloor though.

sidekickdmr

5,075 posts

206 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Well bear in mind that if you are thinking night storage heaters you will need to add a whole new wiring system in, as they come on from a seperate meter and fuse board that only activates on ecomony 7 times. They dont simply "plug in" (At least thats how it is in my property).

g7jtk

1,756 posts

154 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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You can get electric boilers that would replace the conventional boiler ( can't remember the make but they are basically a big tube with an immersion heater in them. You simply put as many together as you need to make up the kw value needed.
There is a service procedure so not maintenance free. Again can't remember what it is.
I don't know if it helps to have the house covered in PV solar panels.

seders

74 posts

94 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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g7jtk said:
You can get electric boilers that would replace the conventional boiler ( can't remember the make but they are basically a big tube with an immersion heater in them. You simply put as many together as you need to make up the kw value needed.
There is a service procedure so not maintenance free. Again can't remember what it is.
I don't know if it helps to have the house covered in PV solar panels.
We had a Gledhill boiler in our apartment. It was fine for what we needed - filled the bath and sinks with hot water.

Only problem we ever head was some failure with the thermostat and the thing was boiling for a kettle whilst we were out - don't know how long for and we came home to the place being like a steam room!

Jambo85

3,319 posts

88 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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I once rented a house with a wet electric system in it. Name was Red Ring or something like that.

It's like a normal wet system with radiators, pipes etc., and a hot water cylinder. Difference is the hot water cylinder had multiple immersion heaters on it which you programme to come on during the night for cheaper energy, and it sat much hotter than normal cylinders to store as much energy as possible.

A mixer valve on the outlet stops you having dangerously hot water coming out the taps.

Much more controllable than storage heaters.

Could be ideal for you as it uses a lot of your existing equipment and I can't see it being that expensive to install.

Electricity bills were eye watering however.

speedyman

1,525 posts

234 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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Check what size the main incomming cable is to the cottage firstly before you order any storage heaters in case it cannot supply the load current you need.

roofer

5,136 posts

211 months

Monday 27th March 2017
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I shall be fitting something similar to this in our upstairs.

http://www.premierradiators.co.uk/services/ecoheat...

Waiting for technical brochure to see outputs.

g7jtk

1,756 posts

154 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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seders said:
We had a Gledhill boiler in our apartment. It was fine for what we needed - filled the bath and sinks with hot water.

Only problem we ever head was some failure with the thermostat and the thing was boiling for a kettle whilst we were out - don't know how long for and we came home to the place being like a steam room!
That could happen with any system

kellyon

15 posts

86 months

Wednesday 29th March 2017
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When it comes to the heating system in the house I think it's more reliable to use some help of professional contractors. Last year I installed electric heat pumps from a well known heating service in denver http://www.summitheatingco.com/ in my house. These guys helped me to choose the right heating system for my house and to install it. As a result, with a new heating system, I reduced the cost of utilities bills and saved my money.