Where to buy Bulletproof material...

[Unbusy]

[WindyCommon]

http://www.bulletblocker.com/bunijiibulew.html

[iphonedyou]

jdw100 said:

(note; no one has actually carried a briefcase since about 2005)

Do you live in a cave?

[gigglebug]

Yipper said:

There was one a couple years ago that got some publicity.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3096245/Fo...

Do you ever post anything that isn't on the first page of a Google search Yipper? Anyone can do that and dress it up as personal knowledge, it doesn't actually make you smart though does it?

[jdw100]

iphonedyou said:

jdw100 said:

(note; no one has actually carried a briefcase since about 2005)

Do you live in a cave?

Nope, but I still believe that briefcases have been out of fashion for a good decade.

Replaced by leather bags. Black. Shoulder strap optional.

Sorry if you are still carrying around one of those silver samsonites from the late 90's.

[conkerman]

it has been posted before but..

https://youtu.be/08kSncpUnUo

[blueg33]

I did some work a few years ago with a company that manufactured ceramic bullet proof plates for the MOD amongst others. Amazing that what looks like a thick square side plate can stop a high velocity round! The plats slot into inserts in clothing etc

Not sure you can buy them individually though, look them up, the company was based in Rugby

[bigandclever]

Olivero said:

citizensm1th said:

what kind of tactical luggage would Sir/Madam require?

http://www.bulletblocker.com/bullet-proof-briefcas...

I looked at that site and think I can do a much better job. They are all pretty ugly and also heavy to carry around. I am aiming for something stylish and light weight.

So buy the inserts, like I linked to on that site, and put them in anything you like?

[sidekickdmr]

OP, for what its worth, i get what you are doing and why, and think its a good idea.

The op isn’t saying people are going to buy this bag to deflect bullets, he is saying people are going to buy this bag as they need a bag, the fact it charges smart phones and deflect bullets are just a bragging/usp point, and to get some airtime/chat going about his product, they may also of course be an extra benefit to the end user.

Suggesting people just wear bulletproof vests, or the OP uses steel plate is pointless, that’s not what he is going for.

[MrBarry123]

@ 5ohmustang and jdw100

[Harry Flashman]

RightOn said:

That's a very strange question to post on an internet forum, if you don't mind me saying so.

Yep. NSA are watching him right now. And all of us too...

[Guvernator]

Sorry I have nothing constructive to add except this has the makings of another classic PH thread, especially now 5o has turned up. I'm expecting this to escalate very quickly.

Just one thing OP, I hope you are the kind of man who can defend their family otherwise you'll get shortchange from 5o.

[Tuvra]

Wacky Racer said:

98elise said:

RightOn said:

That's a very strange question to post on an internet forum, if you don't mind me saying so.

Quite normal for this site. We've had someone asking how to import an elephant, and another wanted to know how to remove the wings from a jet provost.

Building a bulletproof briefcase is just run of the mill around these parts

Even people saying I have £5,000 to spend, what car shall I buy with four wheels, a roof and a steering wheel?

PH is a mine of information....

Yeah but that is usually when things get silly, especially when that cowboy hat wearing prick used to turn up

[berlintaxi]

He's still here, top of the page......Oh, you meant the other one.;)

[Alex_225]

Olivero said:

Been shot at when I lived in Bueons Airies by drug dealers, but not in a serious way.

This did make me chuckle, if that was me I'd take being shot at as being quite serious! haha

[Peanut Gallery]

It might not be officially bullet proof, and no, I will NOT offer to test it for you, but.. I have seen the jeans of a motobike guy which where toughened, think it was kevlar, they were really tough for sliding across the road, but still supple enough to get by just as a normal pair of jeans.

May I repeat, I am not offering to test them for you!!

[5ohmustang]

Olivero said:

I am looking for some guidance on bulletproof material and am hoping someone on pistonheads might have some experience.

What would be the right soft material to place inside a leather bag/briefcase that could stop a single round from a small calibre firearm?
9mm, at a medium range, regular bullet, fired in the street.

So far I have been looking at Kevlar woven fabrics as a single 30x40cm insert, but am not sure what to look for.

https://bodyarmor.en.alibaba.com/product/603213603...

I really don't think there would be a market for this product. I have not seen a briefcase being carried for a long time. Also if a round impacts on the briefcase, there's a good chance it will send the briefcase flying out of the hand of the person, leaving potentially more rounds to make body contact.

If the primary function of the device is to stop bullets, personally I would use a modular plate carrier, wear it under a jacket stripped down from any extras.

The body armor market is already saturated from well made, expensive American made to the cheapo Chinese copies.

To answer your question, you can buy inserts/plates new or used through private/commercial channels.

The U.S. Military inserts and plates are considered sensitive items and therefore cannot be sold legally as surplus. However you can buy the same exact plates from the manufacturer.

Be very cautious of buying used plates, especially ceramic. We do not use sapi plates any more, the past 10 years esapi plates have been used and are now transitioning to xsapi plates.

If you are designing the product to be on the cutting edge then xsapi protection is some high speed st.

The problems with esapi plates, are that they can crack, delaminate, break, crumble on the corners. They must be periodically x-rayed for cracks and stress fractures. If the outside of the briefcase is esapi and it is making contact with the ground a lot, it could compromise the ballistic integrity.

Esapi will stop 7.62mm. However the trade off is that the plates are heavy. There is no way I would walk around with a brief case sandwiched between esapi plates.

Your idea would be best off with the soft inserts.

My Iotv (improved outer tactical vest) primary protection are esapi plates front and rear, with esbi plates on the sides. Esbi are similar to esapi but smaller. Then the secondary protection are the soft inserts which will stop 9mm. It's easily a $3k vest.

The extra modular protection pieces are also made from a soft insert type material that you can legally buy from military surplus stores. The groin,neck, deltoids, back protector and diapers (protective outer garment) are designed to stop shrapnel and fragmented munitions. You could buy some of these and experiment with the materials to see if it suits your needs.

I think Infidel Body Armor produce some of the best civilian, bang for the buck body armor and plates. I had some hands-on their gear at an expo and I'd trust my life in it.

https://youtu.be/x0zyu7LWA6U

https://youtu.be/vFoVnYxC-Ag

If you have any serious questions I will answer them, I will not be responding to the close minded stupid comments posted by others on here.

Edited by 5ohmustang on Wednesday 29th March 04:24

[Ed.]

Pistonheads response:
Someone trys to steal your or a neighbour's car - half the responses will say upgrade security with locks and lights etc.
Someone gets shot in your street - half the responses say how bullet proof protection won't help or take the piss.

[GC8]

citizensm1th said:

ceramics are the way to go, either those or according to british army folk law a wet mod issue blanket could stop 9mm para back in the late 70's early 80's

but then we had just bought a whole shed load of shonky cheep ammo from india

Both bks! & true...

A wet blanket cannot hope to stop a hot 2CZ round, a wet general issue (GI) blanket could be used as a backstop for a .45ACP fired out of a 1911 pistol and I have seen this demonstrated. The .45 bullet is big and slow, whereas the .356 9mm bullet is light and fast.

[Guffy]

A good thread to start the day

I suggest filling your case full of sand...