Conspiracy theorists... are they all just a bit thick?

[tangerine_sedge]

This thread has done it again. It's allowed one quiet nazi to drink in the bar, and now the bar has become a 'nazi' bar. /tortured analogy.

[dukeboy749r]

captain_cynic said:

dukeboy749r said:

First of all, as you probably knew you were doing, I was a) referring to someone above me in the thread and b) my comment (in being aimed at that one person) was taking their language and replaying it to them.

But, you got yoru kicks and then referred to me on the Wibble thread in NP&E, so well done you.

10 out of 10 for your confirmation bias.

Your logic is almost Vulcan-like.

It's a badge of honour being discussed on there, it means you've managed to penetrate their fantasy bubble and it needs to be addressed from their safe space

The next level is when you get added to "the list" of blocked user accounts.

I'll take it as that then - .

Now, a nice jacket on which to pin or sew said badge?

[GeneralBanter]

Dagnir said:

isaldiri said:

Well, I merely listed out various things done and saw by public health/government figures in the pandemic.

You were the one who earlier referenced having faith in verified experts. I was pointing out the behaviour of some of those verified experts that was at least partially responsible for fuelling why there was that loss in faith because the accepted truth wasn't.... well... anything like what it was being portrayed by them to be. Whether nutter with their belief system or actual expert, it seems people were entirely prepared to misrepresent and believe whatever they wanted to.

Perhaps that makes me a conspiracy theorist I suppose.

Don't bite. Just ignore and move on.

Accusations of being a conspiracy theorist say more about the person throwing out, than the target.

Not if it makes an anarchistic lunatic think about what they are saying, where they get their information from and the accuracy and truth of that information.

IMO the 'sheep' are the ones that believe the unverified spoutings of other CT's and make-believe 'dot-joining' over common sense and the reality of a situation at a moment in time.

[119]

Ashfordian said:

isaldiri said:

Apart from the fact that it was age dependent and the your quote above intentionally ignores that. Myocarditis was not a greater risk from infection than from vaccination in some circumstances - namely for those under 30 at their 2nd mRNA jabs especially if Moderna. It also excludes the pretty much certain likelihood of being infected by covid in the future so your myocarditis risk would be cumulative from any vaccine risk + infection risk.

If Chromegrill really was a health professional involved at a fairly senior level in the COVID response , why is he ignoring answering the above very valid point from isaldiri regarding the cumulative risk of Myocarditis from Covid infection and vaccination?

Chromegrill also wants to try and confuscate that Covid was mainly age related. It was obvious early on from the data that Covid doubled your risk of death.. This fact was totally ignored by the health professionals publicly, in preference of creating unnecessary fear and anxiety, which is likely to have done more damage to said peoples health in the long term.

I wonder if Chromegrill is involved "at a fairly senior level" looking into the effects of said Covid overreaction on the long term health of the nation?

What level are you at?

[GeneralBanter]

119 said:

Ashfordian said:

isaldiri said:

Apart from the fact that it was age dependent and the your quote above intentionally ignores that. Myocarditis was not a greater risk from infection than from vaccination in some circumstances - namely for those under 30 at their 2nd mRNA jabs especially if Moderna. It also excludes the pretty much certain likelihood of being infected by covid in the future so your myocarditis risk would be cumulative from any vaccine risk + infection risk.

If Chromegrill really was a health professional involved at a fairly senior level in the COVID response , why is he ignoring answering the above very valid point from isaldiri regarding the cumulative risk of Myocarditis from Covid infection and vaccination?

Chromegrill also wants to try and confuscate that Covid was mainly age related. It was obvious early on from the data that Covid doubled your risk of death.. This fact was totally ignored by the health professionals publicly, in preference of creating unnecessary fear and anxiety, which is likely to have done more damage to said peoples health in the long term.

I wonder if Chromegrill is involved "at a fairly senior level" looking into the effects of said Covid overreaction on the long term health of the nation?

What level are you at?

Irrespective, Covid as a completely unknown global viral epidemic and this country was working its way through completely unchartered territory in the face of an unprecedented threat to the nations health. In spite of this a regime and vaccine was developed incredibly quickly and I for one think the Government did a good job in the circumstances.

Even with the benefit of hindsight they did a good job, its just a shame all the clueless lunatics come out of the woodwork to find fault. It would be interesting if these muppets were tested in a position of decision making in these sorts of circumstances they would be like be rabbits in the headlights and run away from any responsibility and let the whole nation fall apart.

[B'stard Child]

GeneralBanter said:

Irrespective, Covid as a completely unknown global viral epidemic and this country was working its way through completely unchartered territory in the face of an unprecedented threat to the nations health. In spite of this a regime and vaccine was developed incredibly quickly and I for one think the Government did a good job in the circumstances.

Wow.........................

It was another corona virus (regardless of it's origin) and had a fatality rate the same as the flu - The Diamond Princes petri dish told us almost everything we needed to know.

The vaccine wasn't needed for the vast majority of the population (only those with existing other conditions and in the upper age groups.

I think the government did a great job - shutting down the country and ruining many small businesses (to the benefit of larger ones)spaffing billions up the wall and scaring the st out a large chunk of the population

GeneralBanter said:

Even with the benefit of hindsight they did a good job, its just a shame all the clueless lunatics come out of the woodwork to find fault. It would be interesting if these muppets were tested in a position of decision making in these sorts of circumstances they would be like be rabbits in the headlights and run away from any responsibility and let the whole nation fall apart.

Double wow...................

I'm not even sure how anyone can think with the benefit of hindsight they did a good job (of course that's what the inquiry will say)

They partied/slept around with no concern whilst telling everyone to stay home.

They took the opportunity to line their own pockets whilst convincing the population to save the NHS

They put "guidance" out for social distancing and mask wearing that made no fking sense as well as don't see granny cos you could kill her........

s the lot of them

[119]

B'stard Child said:

GeneralBanter said:

Irrespective, Covid as a completely unknown global viral epidemic and this country was working its way through completely unchartered territory in the face of an unprecedented threat to the nations health. In spite of this a regime and vaccine was developed incredibly quickly and I for one think the Government did a good job in the circumstances.

Wow.........................

It was another corona virus (regardless of it's origin) and had a fatality rate the same as the flu - The Diamond Princes petri dish told us almost everything we needed to know.

The vaccine wasn't needed for the vast majority of the population (only those with existing other conditions and in the upper age groups.

I think the government did a great job - shutting down the country and ruining many small businesses (to the benefit of larger ones)spaffing billions up the wall and scaring the st out a large chunk of the population

GeneralBanter said:

Even with the benefit of hindsight they did a good job, its just a shame all the clueless lunatics come out of the woodwork to find fault. It would be interesting if these muppets were tested in a position of decision making in these sorts of circumstances they would be like be rabbits in the headlights and run away from any responsibility and let the whole nation fall apart.

Double wow...................

I'm not even sure how anyone can think with the benefit of hindsight they did a good job (of course that's what the inquiry will say)

They partied/slept around with no concern whilst telling everyone to stay home.

They took the opportunity to line their own pockets whilst convincing the population to save the NHS

They put "guidance" out for social distancing and mask wearing that made no fking sense as well as don't see granny cos you could kill her........

s the lot of them

The CV loons thread is that way =====>

[coldel]

It is kind of why its worth trying to avoid CT discussions, two immovable sides of a debate that will just rumble along among a very small number of people for years to come.

[Tankrizzo]

Ashfordian said:

If Chromegrill really was a health professional involved at a fairly senior level in the COVID response , why is he ignoring answering the above very valid point from isaldiri regarding the cumulative risk of Myocarditis from Covid infection and vaccination?

Chromegrill also wants to try and confuscate that Covid was mainly age related. It was obvious early on from the data that Covid doubled your risk of death.. This fact was totally ignored by the health professionals publicly, in preference of creating unnecessary fear and anxiety, which is likely to have done more damage to said peoples health in the long term.

I wonder if Chromegrill is involved "at a fairly senior level" looking into the effects of said Covid overreaction on the long term health of the nation?

Nobody cares. Piss off back to your loony thread where you can all feel clever about not being sheeple eating scotch eggs or something.

[Al Gorithum]

Tankrizzo said:

Nobody cares. Piss off back to your loony thread where you can all feel clever about not being sheeple eating scotch eggs or something.

Yes please.

[GeneralBanter]

B'stard Child said:

GeneralBanter said:

Irrespective, Covid as a completely unknown global viral epidemic and this country was working its way through completely unchartered territory in the face of an unprecedented threat to the nations health. In spite of this a regime and vaccine was developed incredibly quickly and I for one think the Government did a good job in the circumstances.

Wow.........................

It was another corona virus (regardless of it's origin) and had a fatality rate the same as the flu - The Diamond Princes petri dish told us almost everything we needed to know.

The vaccine wasn't needed for the vast majority of the population (only those with existing other conditions and in the upper age groups.

I think the government did a great job - shutting down the country and ruining many small businesses (to the benefit of larger ones)spaffing billions up the wall and scaring the st out a large chunk of the population

GeneralBanter said:

Even with the benefit of hindsight they did a good job, its just a shame all the clueless lunatics come out of the woodwork to find fault. It would be interesting if these muppets were tested in a position of decision making in these sorts of circumstances they would be like be rabbits in the headlights and run away from any responsibility and let the whole nation fall apart.

Double wow...................

I'm not even sure how anyone can think with the benefit of hindsight they did a good job (of course that's what the inquiry will say)

They partied/slept around with no concern whilst telling everyone to stay home.

They took the opportunity to line their own pockets whilst convincing the population to save the NHS

They put "guidance" out for social distancing and mask wearing that made no fking sense as well as don't see granny cos you could kill her........

s the lot of them

Reeks of gutter criticism and a great example of exactly the type of attitude I was referring to. You have not a single clue about the reality of any of this really do you.

The Government did an excellent job, without which we would have had an overwhelmed NHS and a multiple of the number of deaths. QED.

[GeneralBanter]

Furthermore:

Vaccine saved 127,500 UK deaths:

https://fullfact.org/health/covid-vaccines-saved-m...

Vaccine substantially altered the course of Covid globally:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/...

So will the idiots who think otherwise because a bloke said so on Telegram or TIK TOK please stop posting rubbish and go away to their echo chamber of like minded nutters where they can all discuss fairy stories of petri dishes 'proving they are right' in their closed community without infecting others with their malicious lies

Edited by GeneralBanter on Wednesday 24th April 14:12

[PurplePenguin]

GeneralBanter said:

B'stard Child said:

GeneralBanter said:

Irrespective, Covid as a completely unknown global viral epidemic and this country was working its way through completely unchartered territory in the face of an unprecedented threat to the nations health. In spite of this a regime and vaccine was developed incredibly quickly and I for one think the Government did a good job in the circumstances.

Wow.........................

It was another corona virus (regardless of it's origin) and had a fatality rate the same as the flu - The Diamond Princes petri dish told us almost everything we needed to know.

The vaccine wasn't needed for the vast majority of the population (only those with existing other conditions and in the upper age groups.

I think the government did a great job - shutting down the country and ruining many small businesses (to the benefit of larger ones)spaffing billions up the wall and scaring the st out a large chunk of the population

GeneralBanter said:

Even with the benefit of hindsight they did a good job, its just a shame all the clueless lunatics come out of the woodwork to find fault. It would be interesting if these muppets were tested in a position of decision making in these sorts of circumstances they would be like be rabbits in the headlights and run away from any responsibility and let the whole nation fall apart.

Double wow...................

I'm not even sure how anyone can think with the benefit of hindsight they did a good job (of course that's what the inquiry will say)

They partied/slept around with no concern whilst telling everyone to stay home.

They took the opportunity to line their own pockets whilst convincing the population to save the NHS

They put "guidance" out for social distancing and mask wearing that made no fking sense as well as don't see granny cos you could kill her........

s the lot of them

Reeks of gutter criticism and a great example of exactly the type of attitude I was referring to. You have not a single clue about the reality of any of this really do you.

The Government did an excellent job, without which we would have had an overwhelmed NHS and a multiple of the number of deaths. QED.

GeneralBanter currently serving with the 77th Brigade

[Boringvolvodriver]

GeneralBanter said:

Furthermore:

Vaccine saved 127,500 UK deaths:

https://fullfact.org/health/covid-vaccines-saved-m...

Vaccine substantially altered the course of Covid globally:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/...

So will the idiots who think otherwise because a bloke said so on Telegram or TIK TOK please stop posting rubbish and go away to their echo chamber of like minded nutters where they can all discuss fairy stories of petri dishes 'proving they are right' in their closed community without infecting others with their malicious lies

Edited by GeneralBanter on Wednesday 24th April 14:12

Can we have the numbers without any estimates please?

Without a time machine neither side of the debate will ever be able to state with certainty as to what May have happened either with or without the vaccines.

And as for closed minds calling it (not you) the loon thread doesnt exactky help since there are some sensible debates there

[captain_cynic]

GeneralBanter said:

Furthermore:

Vaccine saved 127,500 UK deaths:

https://fullfact.org/health/covid-vaccines-saved-m...

Vaccine substantially altered the course of Covid globally:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/...

So will the idiots who think otherwise because a bloke said so on Telegram or TIK TOK please stop posting rubbish and go away to their echo chamber of like minded nutters where they can all discuss fairy stories of petri dishes 'proving they are right' in their closed community without infecting others with their malicious lies

Edited by GeneralBanter on Wednesday 24th April 14:12

Woah, woah, woah.

Don't go bringing facts and medical journals into this. Theyve for this hour long video from a loon on YouTube that trounces all of that.

[Blown2CV]

Boringvolvodriver said:

GeneralBanter said:

Furthermore:

Vaccine saved 127,500 UK deaths:

https://fullfact.org/health/covid-vaccines-saved-m...

Vaccine substantially altered the course of Covid globally:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/...

So will the idiots who think otherwise because a bloke said so on Telegram or TIK TOK please stop posting rubbish and go away to their echo chamber of like minded nutters where they can all discuss fairy stories of petri dishes 'proving they are right' in their closed community without infecting others with their malicious lies

Edited by GeneralBanter on Wednesday 24th April 14:12

Can we have the numbers without any estimates please?

Without a time machine neither side of the debate will ever be able to state with certainty as to what May have happened either with or without the vaccines.

And as for closed minds calling it (not you) the loon thread doesnt exactky help since there are some sensible debates there

i bet there aren't.

[mickk]

This thread was so much more interesting when it was about flat earthers and alien abductees.

[coldel]

mickk said:

This thread was so much more interesting when it was about flat earthers and alien abductees.

If we bring in moon landings being fake, 9/11 trade centre was an inside job and the great reset being a thing - I suspect you might, just might, find a few lurkers pop their head above the parapet

[LF5335]

I see the Covid nutters have trashed this thread permanently. Please just stop replying to the whackos. They’ve got their own thread to spout bks.

[GeneralBanter]

captain_cynic said:

GeneralBanter said:

Furthermore:

Vaccine saved 127,500 UK deaths:

https://fullfact.org/health/covid-vaccines-saved-m...

Vaccine substantially altered the course of Covid globally:

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/laninf/article/...

So will the idiots who think otherwise because a bloke said so on Telegram or TIK TOK please stop posting rubbish and go away to their echo chamber of like minded nutters where they can all discuss fairy stories of petri dishes 'proving they are right' in their closed community without infecting others with their malicious lies

Woah, woah, woah.

Don't go bringing facts and medical journals into this. Theyve for this hour long video from a loon on YouTube that trounces all of that.

Which for some reason brings to mind David Ickes videos, quite a few were about Covid.

I presume there are people here that actually watch them and believe what he says?

You can all now come out of the woodwork and admit it - so that I can ask you why, when someone actually thinks they’re Jesus, that you follow on believing what they say on everything else on the planet.

Even if you don’t believe some of his stuff about lizards and a big reset, you probably still believe his stuff that suits you. So a proven fantasist endorses a theory and you still don’t question that theory?