A bit council (Vol 6)
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DodgyGeezer said:
that is a complaint that has been made - the countryside is too white.
It's not 'too' white, but the fact is that traipsing around in mud and rain is not part of Indian/African/Arab culture. It is a gene-level part of English culture - like discussing the weather. I know a few non-white English people and not one of them enjoys the dull English countryside. They think I'm barmy going up a mountain or walking the dog on the moors. I live in a pretty standard commuter town in Surrey & kids from one of the local primary schools go out to a farm in Sussex for a day.
One of our friends works at this farm & she can not believe the kids lack of knowledge.
No idea that meat is from animals, where eggs/milk come from etc etc, & this isn’t an inner city school. Shocking really.
One of our friends works at this farm & she can not believe the kids lack of knowledge.
No idea that meat is from animals, where eggs/milk come from etc etc, & this isn’t an inner city school. Shocking really.
Portofino said:
I live in a pretty standard commuter town in Surrey & kids from one of the local primary schools go out to a farm in Sussex for a day.
One of our friends works at this farm & she can not believe the kids lack of knowledge.
No idea that meat is from animals, where eggs/milk come from etc etc, & this isn’t an inner city school. Shocking really.
It is shocking. Why so little knowledge? It's not about lack of non-whites in the countryside, it's about lack of education regarding the ecosystem they live in.One of our friends works at this farm & she can not believe the kids lack of knowledge.
No idea that meat is from animals, where eggs/milk come from etc etc, & this isn’t an inner city school. Shocking really.
Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
popeyewhite said:
It is shocking. Why so little knowledge? It's not about lack of non-whites in the countryside, it's about lack of education regarding the ecosystem they live in.
Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
Someone I knew at university didn't know how big cows were until she was on the train from London to Bristol to start her course. She had previously thought they were the size of a large dog.Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
That was getting on for 30 years ago though so less social media, etc.
Edited by spitfire-ian on Tuesday 12th March 11:11
popeyewhite said:
It is shocking. Why so little knowledge? It's not about lack of non-whites in the countryside, it's about lack of education regarding the ecosystem they live in.
Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
Holy cow?Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
Spare tyre said:
popeyewhite said:
It is shocking. Why so little knowledge? It's not about lack of non-whites in the countryside, it's about lack of education regarding the ecosystem they live in.
Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
Holy cow?Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
HTP99 said:
Spare tyre said:
popeyewhite said:
It is shocking. Why so little knowledge? It's not about lack of non-whites in the countryside, it's about lack of education regarding the ecosystem they live in.
Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
Holy cow?Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
popeyewhite said:
It is shocking. Why so little knowledge? It's not about lack of non-whites in the countryside, it's about lack of education regarding the ecosystem they live in.
Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
It's widespread, we were out with the dog last year walking the local footpaths and we came across a group of girls gathered at a stile to enter a field. It turned out they were on a Duke of Edinburgh expedition and as none had ever seen a cow close up they were terrified of entering the field where the young heifers were having a drink from their trough. We carried on, they turned back.Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
HTP99 said:
Spare tyre said:
popeyewhite said:
It is shocking. Why so little knowledge? It's not about lack of non-whites in the countryside, it's about lack of education regarding the ecosystem they live in.
Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
Holy cow?Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
moorx said:
HTP99 said:
Spare tyre said:
popeyewhite said:
It is shocking. Why so little knowledge? It's not about lack of non-whites in the countryside, it's about lack of education regarding the ecosystem they live in.
Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
Holy cow?Last weekend walking the dog some girls in Muslim headwear were taking pictures of cows in a field. Normal cows.
jdw100 said:
That story really does make a sad point.
My ex and I used to do a lot of walking hiking. When living in London we were given a book that had routes around the M25 (inside) nearly all of which were green paths.
Took us a couple or three years of occasional weekends to get it all done. Sometimes you would not even realise you were not that far away from the M25 but also how much farmed land and green space; forests, copses, meadows, rivers etc. Quite amazing.
During all that time, we met very few people and I’ll say all were white and dressed in walking gear.
Same as in Lake District, Peaks, Snowdonia etc…its a very white pastime.
I am talking 10-15 years ago so things may have changed of course.
If you are, what we are calling ‘council’ or ‘inner city’ and in a big city, how do you get the opportunity or information to get out into the countryside unless someone (school?) proactively makes it happen?
Read "London Orbital: A Walk Around the M25" by Iain Sinclair. It's more of a socio-economic history than a travel guide. Some beautifully written parts.My ex and I used to do a lot of walking hiking. When living in London we were given a book that had routes around the M25 (inside) nearly all of which were green paths.
Took us a couple or three years of occasional weekends to get it all done. Sometimes you would not even realise you were not that far away from the M25 but also how much farmed land and green space; forests, copses, meadows, rivers etc. Quite amazing.
During all that time, we met very few people and I’ll say all were white and dressed in walking gear.
Same as in Lake District, Peaks, Snowdonia etc…its a very white pastime.
I am talking 10-15 years ago so things may have changed of course.
If you are, what we are calling ‘council’ or ‘inner city’ and in a big city, how do you get the opportunity or information to get out into the countryside unless someone (school?) proactively makes it happen?
Fane said:
jdw100 said:
That story really does make a sad point.
My ex and I used to do a lot of walking hiking. When living in London we were given a book that had routes around the M25 (inside) nearly all of which were green paths.
Took us a couple or three years of occasional weekends to get it all done. Sometimes you would not even realise you were not that far away from the M25 but also how much farmed land and green space; forests, copses, meadows, rivers etc. Quite amazing.
During all that time, we met very few people and I’ll say all were white and dressed in walking gear.
Same as in Lake District, Peaks, Snowdonia etc…its a very white pastime.
I am talking 10-15 years ago so things may have changed of course.
If you are, what we are calling ‘council’ or ‘inner city’ and in a big city, how do you get the opportunity or information to get out into the countryside unless someone (school?) proactively makes it happen?
Read "London Orbital: A Walk Around the M25" by Iain Sinclair. It's more of a socio-economic history than a travel guide. Some beautifully written parts.My ex and I used to do a lot of walking hiking. When living in London we were given a book that had routes around the M25 (inside) nearly all of which were green paths.
Took us a couple or three years of occasional weekends to get it all done. Sometimes you would not even realise you were not that far away from the M25 but also how much farmed land and green space; forests, copses, meadows, rivers etc. Quite amazing.
During all that time, we met very few people and I’ll say all were white and dressed in walking gear.
Same as in Lake District, Peaks, Snowdonia etc…its a very white pastime.
I am talking 10-15 years ago so things may have changed of course.
If you are, what we are calling ‘council’ or ‘inner city’ and in a big city, how do you get the opportunity or information to get out into the countryside unless someone (school?) proactively makes it happen?
Ean218 said:
It's widespread, we were out with the dog last year walking the local footpaths and we came across a group of girls gathered at a stile to enter a field. It turned out they were on a Duke of Edinburgh expedition and as none had ever seen a cow close up they were terrified of entering the field where the young heifers were having a drink from their trough. We carried on, they turned back.
To be fair..."As the UK's deadliest animal, cows attack between three and four thousand people every year. An expert has revealed this figure may continue to rise. Between 2018 and 2022, more than 30 people were killed by cows, according to the UK Government's Health and Safety Executive (HSE).17 Sept 2023"
DodgyGeezer said:
Ean218 said:
It's widespread, we were out with the dog last year walking the local footpaths and we came across a group of girls gathered at a stile to enter a field. It turned out they were on a Duke of Edinburgh expedition and as none had ever seen a cow close up they were terrified of entering the field where the young heifers were having a drink from their trough. We carried on, they turned back.
To be fair..."As the UK's deadliest animal, cows attack between three and four thousand people every year. An expert has revealed this figure may continue to rise. Between 2018 and 2022, more than 30 people were killed by cows, according to the UK Government's Health and Safety Executive (HSE).17 Sept 2023"
Spare tyre said:
Hopefully no "Wimmin" go near him and he doesn't reproduce. Spare tyre said:
DodgyGeezer said:
Ean218 said:
It's widespread, we were out with the dog last year walking the local footpaths and we came across a group of girls gathered at a stile to enter a field. It turned out they were on a Duke of Edinburgh expedition and as none had ever seen a cow close up they were terrified of entering the field where the young heifers were having a drink from their trough. We carried on, they turned back.
To be fair..."As the UK's deadliest animal, cows attack between three and four thousand people every year. An expert has revealed this figure may continue to rise. Between 2018 and 2022, more than 30 people were killed by cows, according to the UK Government's Health and Safety Executive (HSE).17 Sept 2023"
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