Getting ripped off

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Takemeaway

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599 posts

211 months

Sunday 11th February
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I’ve been ripped off (in my opinion) twice in the last week and am struggling with how to react.

Firstly I bought an expensive shower fitting online from a plumbing retailer which upon opening wasn’t quite right.

When I sought to send it back I discovered I would lose one third of what I’d laid out due to a restocking fee (I didn’t read the tiny print) and huge collection cost.

Unfortunately Amazon return has mistakenly raised my expectations.

Second incident I bought a ‘new - other’ rowing machine from a seller on eBay. I went to collect it, was in a hurry and a bit hungry with the family in the car, and didn’t check it over fully. It wasn’t the brand of machine I thought I’d bought and it was also fairly mouldy and rusty in parts as it had been in the sellers garage (or so he claimed). I think he’d picked it up from a car boot but whatever.

I’m normally very careful with my research but I’ve obviously let myself down here.

Really annoyed with myself. I’m trying to ignore and forget about it, lesson learned. Rowing machine to the tip and I’ll try and resell the shower fitting online somewhere.

Neither item was particularly cheap but fortunately I can just about afford to take this on the chin and move on.

Question is, what would you do?

rlg43p

1,231 posts

249 months

Sunday 11th February
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For the former I would think the restocking fee is illegal. You are entitled to a full refund under distance selling regulations.

With the latter submit a not as described dispute with eBay and request a return. Send them the details that you put in your post. See if that works.

loskie

5,235 posts

120 months

Sunday 11th February
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yep what he said.

They cannot overrule your statutory rights


https://www.wigan.gov.uk/Business/Trading-Standard...

thebraketester

14,236 posts

138 months

Sunday 11th February
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Take more care when buying things?

CheesecakeRunner

3,808 posts

91 months

Sunday 11th February
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rlg43p said:
With the latter submit a not as described dispute with eBay and request a return. Send them the details that you put in your post. See if that works.
He collected it, and I presume used eBay’s QR code mechanism to accept it. EBay won’t (and shouldn’t) accept a “not as described” complaint when he had the ability to inspect it himself. As an eBay seller I’d fight that. I wouldn’t mind someone saying they don’t accept it when stood there, but not after they’ve gone away and had second thoughts.

Random Account No6

4,385 posts

186 months

Sunday 11th February
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Yup, first is on them, second is on you.

Monkeylegend

26,411 posts

231 months

Sunday 11th February
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Eat before you buy.

Mabbs9

1,084 posts

218 months

Sunday 11th February
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These things happen from time to time. I agree with the shower part advice and I think you've been unlucky with the rower. Hard to challenge but you can try. Do all you can to reasonably rectify it and then just chill out. Good luck.

Jordie Barretts sock

4,144 posts

19 months

Sunday 11th February
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thebraketester said:
Take more care when buying things?
This.

What do you mean, 'what would you do?' Are you looking to blane someone else for your own failings?


Badda

2,670 posts

82 months

Sunday 11th February
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Stand up for yourself more.
Both times you’ve bent over rather than speaking out.

I don’t for a moment believe you didn’t realise the rower was not right when you picked it up, doesn’t make sense at all.

Nigel_O

2,891 posts

219 months

Sunday 11th February
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Jordie Barretts sock said:
thebraketester said:
Take more care when buying things?
This.

What do you mean, 'what would you do?' Are you looking to blane someone else for your own failings?
There’s really no need to put words into his mouth. When OP wrote ‘what would you do’, I have a feeling he was asking other PHers what they would do - not a difficult question. He’s already had a couple of level-headed, constructive suggestions, and to be fair to the OP, he’s already openly admitted he a) didn’t read the small print on item 1 and b) didn’t check item 2 closely enough.

OP, FWIW, I would contest the re-stocking fee and as already mentioned, I would put in a ‘not as described’ claim with EBay.

Badda

2,670 posts

82 months

Sunday 11th February
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Why should he claim from eBay for something he collected in person?? That’s ridiculous. You don’t go to a shop, buy something and then complain when you get home because it’s not the brand you wanted.

bazza white

3,562 posts

128 months

Sunday 11th February
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who is the first. If one of the VP's they were pretty good at returns for me.

Jordie Barretts sock

4,144 posts

19 months

Sunday 11th February
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Nigel_O said:
Jordie Barretts sock said:
thebraketester said:
Take more care when buying things?
This.

What do you mean, 'what would you do?' Are you looking to blane someone else for your own failings?
There’s really no need to put words into his mouth. When OP wrote ‘what would you do’, I have a feeling he was asking other PHers what they would do - not a difficult question. He’s already had a couple of level-headed, constructive suggestions, and to be fair to the OP, he’s already openly admitted he a) didn’t read the small print on item 1 and b) didn’t check item 2 closely enough.

OP, FWIW, I would contest the re-stocking fee and as already mentioned, I would put in a ‘not as described’ claim with EBay.
I'm not putting any words in his mouth. I'm asking why, through his own fault he's asking what to do.

The blunt answer is man the f up.

Takemeaway

Original Poster:

599 posts

211 months

Sunday 11th February
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Don’t need to tell me to man up thanks, I take full responsibility for not suspecting everything I buy and everyone I buy from.

wasn’t asking for get out clauses, I was asking to see what others would do who had f’kd up making a purchase.

Would you fight the lot, tooth and nail, get yourself all wound up and angry, for what would be maybe a slim chance of a positive outcome or would you just take it on the chin and move on.

FWIW the rower looks very similar to the one I thought I was buying. To be honest, I’d wrongly assumed I was buying a perhaps 2020 version rather than the iteration that’s available now, hence the difference. I also thought it needed a light wipe down rather than full decontamination and light sanding of rust. Not what I expected from buying something described by the seller as ‘new - other’ on eBay. When he told me it had been in the garage for a few months, it was plausible as that’s what happens to many a piece of home gym equipment when no longer used. In hindsight I should have got the magnifying glass out and given it a bit of a wipe on site.

Re the shower part, my online buying experience has thus far been a case of buy it and if it’s not right or not needed then send it back, happily at my own expense. With this one they seem to act on behalf of a manufacturer which possibly justifys to them that they can charge a not insignificant restocking fee and then also charge me £25 for postage (I think they collect although I could comfortably send it back at my own expense for significantly cheaper).

The supplier is called plumit. I think they can be named because I am only stating facts that they cannot and presumably won’t deny. It’s down to the consumer to decide if they want to buy from them or not, which in this case I mistakenly did. I’m sure it’s there in the tiny print that they reserve the right to charge a restocking fee and charge enormous postage fees so again, probably my fault for not spotting this.

Takemeaway

Original Poster:

599 posts

211 months

Sunday 11th February
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Badda said:
I don’t for a moment believe you didn’t realise the rower was not right when you picked it up, doesn’t make sense at all.
So what do you think I thought then?!

TriumphStag3.0V8

3,853 posts

81 months

Sunday 11th February
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Takemeaway said:
Don’t need to tell me to man up thanks, I take full responsibility for not suspecting everything I buy and everyone I buy from.

wasn’t asking for get out clauses, I was asking to see what others would do who had f’kd up making a purchase.

Would you fight the lot, tooth and nail, get yourself all wound up and angry, for what would be maybe a slim chance of a positive outcome or would you just take it on the chin and move on.

FWIW the rower looks very similar to the one I thought I was buying. To be honest, I’d wrongly assumed I was buying a perhaps 2020 version rather than the iteration that’s available now, hence the difference. I also thought it needed a light wipe down rather than full decontamination and light sanding of rust. Not what I expected from buying something described by the seller as ‘new - other’ on eBay. When he told me it had been in the garage for a few months, it was plausible as that’s what happens to many a piece of home gym equipment when no longer used. In hindsight I should have got the magnifying glass out and given it a bit of a wipe on site.

Re the shower part, my online buying experience has thus far been a case of buy it and if it’s not right or not needed then send it back, happily at my own expense. With this one they seem to act on behalf of a manufacturer which possibly justifys to them that they can charge a not insignificant restocking fee and then also charge me £25 for postage (I think they collect although I could comfortably send it back at my own expense for significantly cheaper).

The supplier is called plumit. I think they can be named because I am only stating facts that they cannot and presumably won’t deny. It’s down to the consumer to decide if they want to buy from them or not, which in this case I mistakenly did. I’m sure it’s there in the tiny print that they reserve the right to charge a restocking fee and charge enormous postage fees so again, probably my fault for not spotting this.
I would contact them again and say you expect a full refund under distance selling regulations, and will be sending it yourself registered post.

For the rowing machine, buy in haste, repent at leisure unfortunately. You had the opportunity to inspect it, didn't and later realised it is not as described. That one is on you. Either fix it up, stick it on FB marketplace/back on eBay, take it to the dump or leave it outside with a sign on it saying "free to good home".


Edited by TriumphStag3.0V8 on Sunday 11th February 14:34

rlg43p

1,231 posts

249 months

Sunday 11th February
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thebraketester said:
Take more care when buying things?
What a wonderfully helpful.comment. Did it take ALL of your brainpower to think of that?

rlg43p

1,231 posts

249 months

Sunday 11th February
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CheesecakeRunner said:
He collected it, and I presume used eBay’s QR code mechanism to accept it. EBay won’t (and shouldn’t) accept a “not as described” complaint when he had the ability to inspect it himself. As an eBay seller I’d fight that. I wouldn’t mind someone saying they don’t accept it when stood there, but not after they’ve gone away and had second thoughts.
You are probably right, but nevertheless I would still try, saying that it was only after getting it home that I realised it was not as described.

thebraketester

14,236 posts

138 months

Sunday 11th February
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rlg43p said:
thebraketester said:
Take more care when buying things?
What a wonderfully helpful.comment. Did it take ALL of your brainpower to think of that?
Yes