14yr old- flash point over him living on his PlayStation

[JQ]

StuTheGrouch said:

Chucking a load of cream over a car isn't an accident.

No, it's having a sense of humour.

[okgo]

vaud said:

Can we maybe agree that

a) everyone is different
b) moderation is key for most passions

My daughter does jujitsu and plays hockey - both training and tournaments. After either (especially a hockey tournament which are in the cold, outside and playing 6-9 matches) she might like to curl up a read comics and play a bit of minecraft. I'm fine with that balance.

Obviously, but suspect there are a lot of polarised kids out there who don't spend much time doing anything other than gaming if allowed. No such thing IMO as too much sport.

[DoubleSix]

Not reading all pages, but does OP not have parental controls in place??

My lad has an hour a day on weekdays and two hours a day at weekends. Then the PSN controls kick in and it shuts down…

If he is rude or otherwise poorly behaved i can remove the time via the app. Or add it as required (but rarely, as the boundaries should be clear)

Standard practice for devices no?

[InitialDave]

okgo said:

Suspect when he is my age, he'll look back and wished he kept up the rowing or karting more than the computer games.

If you can't see that competitive sport/team sport even at lower levels gives you everything (and some actually benefit to your body and mind in a chemical sense) you've written in the second paragraph then I doubt we'll agree.

okgo said:

Obviously, but suspect there are a lot of polarised kids out there who don't spend much time doing anything other than gaming if allowed. No such thing IMO as too much sport.

I absolutely detested team sports when I was younger, and the enforced participation in them at school etc did nothing but damage my attitude towards exercise and fitness.

It did not teach me teamwork or getting along with a group or anything like that.

Took me a long time to learn that I did actually enjoy exercise/training, just as a solo pursuit.

[otolith]

Those "promising footballers" like their sport, don't they?

[okgo]

otolith said:

Those "promising footballers" like their sport, don't they?

https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/31/south-london-crucible-for-black-british-footballers

I heard a stat saying 15% of the premier league are South London originated footballers. Suspect it was a better use of their time than anything else!


Anyway - there’s outliers everywhere but I don’t see spending endless hours looking at a computer as a good use of time as a child vs being active/partaking in sporting pursuits. And as such I’ll be limiting screen time online gaming where possible when my kid(s) get to a later age. Mixing the both obviously ideal outcome.

[plenty]

okgo said:

If you can't see that competitive sport/team sport even at lower levels gives you everything (and some actually benefit to your body and mind in a chemical sense) you've written in the second paragraph then I doubt we'll agree.

I can totally see that. I'm simply pointing out that gaming for some isn't the irredeemable evil that you and others appear to be framing it as.

As it happens, the rowing team was (and to a certain extent the karting team right now is) a slightly toxic hotbed of hyper-masculinity, one-upmanship and massive peer pressure to be 'one of the boys', which is not uncommon when you put competitive young males together. My son looks back on that time with a mixture of fondness for what it gave him, but also regret for being an ahole at the time. Sport isn't without its risks either.