14yr old- flash point over him living on his PlayStation

14yr old- flash point over him living on his PlayStation

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Monkeylegend

26,409 posts

231 months

Monday 15th April
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Hugo Stiglitz said:
What do we do?

I've said 2hrs max gaming time a day to which he says go away and shut up.

If I enforce it he'll go and lie in his bed sulking for hours.

I know this is minor to some but do I enforce it by taking it away entirely for a punishment period, say days?

My wife thinks I'm mean when I enforce turning it off and he then refuses to come out of his room 'spoiling the mood in the house for everyone else'.

Help!
How much time do you spend browsing PH ?

Tommo87

4,220 posts

113 months

Monday 15th April
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goldieandblackie said:
In the 1970s he would have been thrashed with a leather belt and told to go to his room and the teachers at school where just as bad pulling your hair and slapping you, ask me how I know.

Seems today society has gone in completely the opposite direction and now far too soft and wishing to best friends with their kids.
I don’t actually know anyone who was physically beaten by their parents to that extent.

I had the cane across my hand once for fighting outside the school gate, but that one singular event proved a very effective deterrent.




JQ

5,745 posts

179 months

Monday 15th April
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StuTheGrouch said:
Chucking a load of cream over a car isn't an accident.
No, it's having a sense of humour.

okgo

38,055 posts

198 months

Monday 15th April
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vaud said:
Can we maybe agree that

a) everyone is different
b) moderation is key for most passions

My daughter does jujitsu and plays hockey - both training and tournaments. After either (especially a hockey tournament which are in the cold, outside and playing 6-9 matches) she might like to curl up a read comics and play a bit of minecraft. I'm fine with that balance.
Obviously, but suspect there are a lot of polarised kids out there who don't spend much time doing anything other than gaming if allowed. No such thing IMO as too much sport.

DoubleSix

11,715 posts

176 months

Monday 15th April
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Not reading all pages, but does OP not have parental controls in place??

My lad has an hour a day on weekdays and two hours a day at weekends. Then the PSN controls kick in and it shuts down…

If he is rude or otherwise poorly behaved i can remove the time via the app. Or add it as required (but rarely, as the boundaries should be clear)

Standard practice for devices no?

InitialDave

11,913 posts

119 months

Monday 15th April
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okgo said:
Suspect when he is my age, he'll look back and wished he kept up the rowing or karting more than the computer games.

If you can't see that competitive sport/team sport even at lower levels gives you everything (and some actually benefit to your body and mind in a chemical sense) you've written in the second paragraph then I doubt we'll agree.
okgo said:
Obviously, but suspect there are a lot of polarised kids out there who don't spend much time doing anything other than gaming if allowed. No such thing IMO as too much sport.
I absolutely detested team sports when I was younger, and the enforced participation in them at school etc did nothing but damage my attitude towards exercise and fitness.

It did not teach me teamwork or getting along with a group or anything like that.

Took me a long time to learn that I did actually enjoy exercise/training, just as a solo pursuit.

otolith

56,153 posts

204 months

Monday 15th April
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Those "promising footballers" like their sport, don't they?

okgo

38,055 posts

198 months

Monday 15th April
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otolith said:
Those "promising footballers" like their sport, don't they?
https://amp.theguardian.com/football/2022/mar/31/south-london-crucible-for-black-british-footballers

I heard a stat saying 15% of the premier league are South London originated footballers. Suspect it was a better use of their time than anything else!


Anyway - there’s outliers everywhere but I don’t see spending endless hours looking at a computer as a good use of time as a child vs being active/partaking in sporting pursuits. And as such I’ll be limiting screen time online gaming where possible when my kid(s) get to a later age. Mixing the both obviously ideal outcome.

plenty

4,690 posts

186 months

Monday 15th April
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okgo said:
If you can't see that competitive sport/team sport even at lower levels gives you everything (and some actually benefit to your body and mind in a chemical sense) you've written in the second paragraph then I doubt we'll agree.
I can totally see that. I'm simply pointing out that gaming for some isn't the irredeemable evil that you and others appear to be framing it as.

As it happens, the rowing team was (and to a certain extent the karting team right now is) a slightly toxic hotbed of hyper-masculinity, one-upmanship and massive peer pressure to be 'one of the boys', which is not uncommon when you put competitive young males together. My son looks back on that time with a mixture of fondness for what it gave him, but also regret for being an ahole at the time. Sport isn't without its risks either.