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I think you are being a bit harsh "OZZERR". Just because someone was driving their car for pleasure with a few like minded individuals it does not automatically make them a "boy racer".
From all that I have read it sounds like 10p Short is truly sorry for what happened and I think the reality is that it could have happened to anyone who enjoys driving.
He was sideways ffs.From all that I have read it sounds like 10p Short is truly sorry for what happened and I think the reality is that it could have happened to anyone who enjoys driving.
He's been stupid and he's done the time....my only question is why is he looking for the sympathy vote now??? He started well, but has since turned the thread into a 'feel sorry for hard done by 10p because he didnt do anything wrong' and has tried to pass the blame for his actions elsewhere. Ive lost my sympathy for him because hes trying to make out the system has shafted him for nothing when there are numerous witnesses who say otherwise and his car was parked across the road in fornt of a bike coming the other way. Justice has been done and 10p did his time.....he shouldnt be looking to clear himself on a forum.....its pathetic!
Biker's Nemesis said:
tank slapper said:
Ozzerr if you have something constructive to add, then please do so. Otherwise piss off.
So you piss off and read the facts.
r1ot said:
ozzerr said:
Molehall said:
A very sad story for all concerned.
The motor-cyclist appears to have been driving at a speed between 30mph and 60mph acording to earlier posts.
From the information given on the thread, it appears that he would have still collided with 10pence even if he'd been driving at 20mph.
However I'm pretty confident that his injuries would have been a lot less severe if he'd been travelling at a lesser speed.
Maybe the "It's my right to speed" brigade should reflect on this a little?
Are you stupid 10p should not have been sideways in middle of on comming traffic due to his excessive speed or poor driving.The motor-cyclist appears to have been driving at a speed between 30mph and 60mph acording to earlier posts.
From the information given on the thread, it appears that he would have still collided with 10pence even if he'd been driving at 20mph.
However I'm pretty confident that his injuries would have been a lot less severe if he'd been travelling at a lesser speed.
Maybe the "It's my right to speed" brigade should reflect on this a little?
Driving on the roads is becoming all the more dangerous and the road isn't a race circuit. We all know people lie and think they have the moral high ground over incidents like this but I think 10pence short has been brutally honest about what happened and my hat off to him. None of us want to be in his position and some of us might well be so it should be simple, the roads have their uses, getting to work and to the race track.
PGA said:
He's been stupid and he's done the time....my only question is why is he looking for the sympathy vote now??? He started well, but has since turned the thread into a 'feel sorry for hard done by 10p because he didnt do anything wrong' and has tried to pass the blame for his actions elsewhere. Ive lost my sympathy for him because hes trying to make out the system has shafted him for nothing when there are numerous witnesses who say otherwise and his car was parked across the road in fornt of a bike coming the other way. Justice has been done and 10p did his time.....he shouldnt be looking to clear himself on a forum.....its pathetic!
Thank you my friend there must be more sane people on here.ozzerr said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
tank slapper said:
Ozzerr if you have something constructive to add, then please do so. Otherwise piss off.
So you piss off and read the facts.
I've read the thread, and know more about this than I'm letting on. Now do you know the biker in question?
It seems rather strange that you should post straight away on this thread at this time of night.
ozzerr said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
tank slapper said:
Ozzerr if you have something constructive to add, then please do so. Otherwise piss off.
So you piss off and read the facts.
This is absolute bollox. If you believe that then why are you surfing a site such as this?
Edited by 1 on Friday 26th October 00:00
ozzerr said:
tank slapper said:
Ozzerr if you have something constructive to add, then please do so. Otherwise piss off.
He nearly killed someone then brags about going out for drinks months afterwards is that constructive or what.Do you have some particular interest in this case that you have not declared?
Mrs Trackside said:
Can you stick to the argument please and stop trying to get one up on the insults. (That is directed at everyone)
Yes thank you and can we all start again.What infuriated me was his own words not a boy racer he said, and the news article why meet with other forum members for a jolly if your not a boy racer ffs i thought he was comming home from work at the beginning of his post,why not take your kid swimming or go to the footy or take the mrs/girl a drive to the country>No 10p chose different and is telling all of us not to do what he done but some people on here seem to condone his actions.Thats not what he wanted and got side tracked with all the attention he has recieved.If you read his initial post he was trying to warn all of us that he had nearly killed someone and it has ruined his life.ozzerr said:
Listen knucklehead the guys trying to deny he was a boy racer whilst going to a meet with other guys looking for the same day out.If his accident had not been that day it would have been soon after.Cars are lethal weapons and should not be put in the hands of kids.
10 pence short is no "kid"! I'm sure many of us have enjoyed meets and runs with our cars. It doesn't mean we're boy (or girl) racers. We are all human though, humans make mistakes ... sometimes these are small and incidental but other times they are huge and make a big impact on others and our lives.
I know that 10 PS has never claimed any innocence in his actions ... a lesser person probably would have. He's totally aware of the effect his driving had that day.
1 said:
ozzerr said:
Biker's Nemesis said:
tank slapper said:
Ozzerr if you have something constructive to add, then please do so. Otherwise piss off.
So you piss off and read the facts.
This is absolute bollox. If you believe that then why are you surfing a site such as this?
I do like cars and are a member of several forums where i recieved a link to this story hence me now comenting on this thread just like yourself.Opinions are like bumholes we all have them.
Edited by 1 on Friday 26th October 00:00
ozzerr said:
Yes thank you and can we all start again.What infuriated me was his own words not a boy racer he said, and the news article why meet with other forum members for a jolly if your not a boy racer ffs i thought he was comming home from work at the beginning of his post,why not take your kid swimming or go to the footy or take the mrs/girl a drive to the country>No 10p chose different and is telling all of us not to do what he done but some people on here seem to condone his actions.Thats not what he wanted and got side tracked with all the attention he has recieved.If you read his initial post he was trying to warn all of us that he had nearly killed someone and it has ruined his life.
What do you take to be a 'boy racer' then? A great many members of this forum have met for drives, yet there are few of them if any who would be called boy racers. The purpose of it is to have fun and enjoy driving. Strange as it may seem to you, some people do actually derive pleasure from it and use their cars as more than a form of transport. If you have difficulty with this concept I would suggest that this is probably not the forum for you.I also suggest you reread this thread and the others on this subject, as you appear to have misunderstood most of its content. I haven't read anyone condoning his actions, quite the opposite.
So you honestly believe that anyone who likes cars and meets other people, who also like cars, and they all go for a drive together, are automatically "boy racers" ????
If that is the case then I would suggest that you are in for a very hard time indeed whilst you continue to post on here.
Do you also happen to read the Daily Mail?
If that is the case then I would suggest that you are in for a very hard time indeed whilst you continue to post on here.
Do you also happen to read the Daily Mail?
Catz said:
ozzerr said:
Listen knucklehead the guys trying to deny he was a boy racer whilst going to a meet with other guys looking for the same day out.If his accident had not been that day it would have been soon after.Cars are lethal weapons and should not be put in the hands of kids.
10 pence short is no "kid"! I'm sure many of us have enjoyed meets and runs with our cars. It doesn't mean we're boy (or girl) racers. We are all human though, humans make mistakes ... sometimes these are small and incidental but other times they are huge and make a big impact on others and our lives.
I know that 10 PS has never claimed any innocence in his actions ... a lesser person probably would have. He's totally aware of the effect his driving had that day.
ozzerr said:
Mrs Trackside said:
Can you stick to the argument please and stop trying to get one up on the insults. (That is directed at everyone)
Yes thank you and can we all start again.What infuriated me was his own words not a boy racer he said, and the news article why meet with other forum members for a jolly if your not a boy racer ffs i thought he was comming home from work at the beginning of his post,why not take your kid swimming or go to the footy or take the mrs/girl a drive to the country>No 10p chose different and is telling all of us not to do what he done but some people on here seem to condone his actions.Thats not what he wanted and got side tracked with all the attention he has recieved.If you read his initial post he was trying to warn all of us that he had nearly killed someone and it has ruined his life.He has paid his price to society, and as I've said nearer the beginning of this thread, seemed genuinely remorseful.
Turning up like you have, having a pop, will in my opinion, not help anything or anyone.
Anyway, I've said enough.
I think it is a shame that this thread has degenerated somewhat. Personally I agree with the majority opinion that 10 Pence Short has been brave to openly admit and discuss what has happened and did not come across as trying to claim sympathy or shirk any responsibility.
As much as I abhor censorship, I do wonder if the thread could benefit from some "pruning" to prevent an incredibly thought provoking discussion from becoming derailed.
As much as I abhor censorship, I do wonder if the thread could benefit from some "pruning" to prevent an incredibly thought provoking discussion from becoming derailed.
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