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stormrider2 said:
very hard hitting story 10ps.
im a 17 year old driver, and i admit i can drive like a dick at times. storys like this make me realise how easy it is to lose everything though.
my friend crashed his car on a roundabout, we werent going too fast or anything, it was just a damp roundabout (which is also a notorious bad spot for crashes) and he lost it, putting the car on its roof. we were lucky enough not to be hurt but if it was a meter or two back we would have hit a lamppost and electricity box causing alot more damage.
it made me realise how easy it could be to lose control, it also calmed me down a bit too.
this story hit it even further.
hopefully it'll have the same effect on other young drivers.
Well said, son. I'm 37 and 10p's experience as told by him on here has made me a much more responsible driver.im a 17 year old driver, and i admit i can drive like a dick at times. storys like this make me realise how easy it is to lose everything though.
my friend crashed his car on a roundabout, we werent going too fast or anything, it was just a damp roundabout (which is also a notorious bad spot for crashes) and he lost it, putting the car on its roof. we were lucky enough not to be hurt but if it was a meter or two back we would have hit a lamppost and electricity box causing alot more damage.
it made me realise how easy it could be to lose control, it also calmed me down a bit too.
this story hit it even further.
hopefully it'll have the same effect on other young drivers.
Do the right thing and tell your dumb buddies about this thread. 10p might end up saving some lives.
We've all been 17 and had our first big "scare". We're only ever a split second from killing someone when we're driving, and we'd do well to have 10p's story in the back of our minds all the time.
He was just enjoying a sprited drive, and went 1% over the limit. On a different day, he'd have s@@t his pants and gone home for a beer and a calm down for an hour. As it is, he got rather longer than a hour......
Do the right thing - tell your mates about this thread and make them read it.
Vesuvius 996 said:
Well said, son. I'm 37 and 10p's experience as told by him on here has made me a much more responsible driver.
Do the right thing and tell your dumb buddies about this thread. 10p might end up saving some lives.
We've all been 17 and had our first big "scare". We're only ever a split second from killing someone when we're driving, and we'd do well to have 10p's story in the back of our minds all the time.
He was just enjoying a sprited drive, and went 1% over the limit. On a different day, he'd have s@@t his pants and gone home for a beer and a calm down for an hour. As it is, he got rather longer than a hour......
Do the right thing - tell your mates about this thread and make them read it.
it was actually my mate who crashed that showed me this thread. Do the right thing and tell your dumb buddies about this thread. 10p might end up saving some lives.
We've all been 17 and had our first big "scare". We're only ever a split second from killing someone when we're driving, and we'd do well to have 10p's story in the back of our minds all the time.
He was just enjoying a sprited drive, and went 1% over the limit. On a different day, he'd have s@@t his pants and gone home for a beer and a calm down for an hour. As it is, he got rather longer than a hour......
Do the right thing - tell your mates about this thread and make them read it.
i think he's realised how easy it is too. theres some one i know who should really read something like this though.
hes a f**king awful driver, far too fast on most corners, and goes for insane over takes, eg he went for the over take on a blind hill just before a roundabout. ive vowed never to get in his car, although it scares the s
t out of me when we're in our own cars, because he'll always drive like a dick, too close to me, and sometimes overtake in stupid places, so most cases i let him go first, or slow down and let him pass me. I must confess that, although I vaguely knew about 10p's ordeal, it hadn't really come home to me until this thread. I'm actually quite shaken up after reading the entire thread (or perhaps it is exhaustion?
)
I think for any upstanding, law-abiding member of society, being sent to prison must be the stuff of nightmares. Especially the bit about being branded a grass and fearing for your personal safety.
There but for the grace of God, etc. I'll certainly be taking even more care on public roads - and I'd like to think that I take considerable care already. But it just shows that you never know what is round the next bend.
)I think for any upstanding, law-abiding member of society, being sent to prison must be the stuff of nightmares. Especially the bit about being branded a grass and fearing for your personal safety.
There but for the grace of God, etc. I'll certainly be taking even more care on public roads - and I'd like to think that I take considerable care already. But it just shows that you never know what is round the next bend.
finally made it through the whole thread. Thanks 10PenceShort and others for your posts which really bring a sense of stark reality to things.
I too used to be a bit stupid in me youth, driving far too fast, risky overtakes, thinking was indestructable, even after several minor accidents. The one thing that helped slow me down (apart from getting older and more experienced) was a little thing someone told me once (can't remember who):
"Imagine YOU are coming the other way"
This is something I still tell to myself today when I feel the urge to overtake someone out of frustration, but the gap is a little small - sure if someone was coming the otherway going the speed limit there is room to safely make the manouever - but imagine someone is coming the other way on a bit of a hoon - potentially going nearly twice the speed limit on that stretch - I find it helps you realise that you need to allow a certain factor of safety for any manouever.
I still love enthusiastic driving, but nowadays I am far better at knowing when it is safe to do so (preferably at a track!)
I too used to be a bit stupid in me youth, driving far too fast, risky overtakes, thinking was indestructable, even after several minor accidents. The one thing that helped slow me down (apart from getting older and more experienced) was a little thing someone told me once (can't remember who):
"Imagine YOU are coming the other way"
This is something I still tell to myself today when I feel the urge to overtake someone out of frustration, but the gap is a little small - sure if someone was coming the otherway going the speed limit there is room to safely make the manouever - but imagine someone is coming the other way on a bit of a hoon - potentially going nearly twice the speed limit on that stretch - I find it helps you realise that you need to allow a certain factor of safety for any manouever.
I still love enthusiastic driving, but nowadays I am far better at knowing when it is safe to do so (preferably at a track!)
no-worries88 said:
i have a brother,disowned,but still my brother, got 6 years for manslaughter,kept committing crimes inside as he didnt want to leave,like a posh travelodge as he put it.
I couldn't wait to leave. It's not like "I'm a Celebrity", etc. You can't say "OK, I did wrong. Can I go home now?".Your brother (disowned) is a f
kwit of the highest order, if he likes being inside 
matchmaker said:
no-worries88 said:
i have a brother,disowned,but still my brother, got 6 years for manslaughter,kept committing crimes inside as he didnt want to leave,like a posh travelodge as he put it.
I couldn't wait to leave. It's not like "I'm a Celebrity", etc. You can't say "OK, I did wrong. Can I go home now?".Your brother (disowned) is a f
kwit of the highest order, if he likes being inside Vesuvius 996 said:
stormrider2 said:
very hard hitting story 10ps.
im a 17 year old driver, and i admit i can drive like a dick at times. storys like this make me realise how easy it is to lose everything though.
my friend crashed his car on a roundabout, we werent going too fast or anything, it was just a damp roundabout (which is also a notorious bad spot for crashes) and he lost it, putting the car on its roof. we were lucky enough not to be hurt but if it was a meter or two back we would have hit a lamppost and electricity box causing alot more damage.
it made me realise how easy it could be to lose control, it also calmed me down a bit too.
this story hit it even further.
hopefully it'll have the same effect on other young drivers.
Well said, son. I'm 37 and 10p's experience as told by him on here has made me a much more responsible driver.im a 17 year old driver, and i admit i can drive like a dick at times. storys like this make me realise how easy it is to lose everything though.
my friend crashed his car on a roundabout, we werent going too fast or anything, it was just a damp roundabout (which is also a notorious bad spot for crashes) and he lost it, putting the car on its roof. we were lucky enough not to be hurt but if it was a meter or two back we would have hit a lamppost and electricity box causing alot more damage.
it made me realise how easy it could be to lose control, it also calmed me down a bit too.
this story hit it even further.
hopefully it'll have the same effect on other young drivers.
Do the right thing and tell your dumb buddies about this thread. 10p might end up saving some lives.
We've all been 17 and had our first big "scare". We're only ever a split second from killing someone when we're driving, and we'd do well to have 10p's story in the back of our minds all the time.
He was just enjoying a sprited drive, and went 1% over the limit. On a different day, he'd have s@@t his pants and gone home for a beer and a calm down for an hour. As it is, he got rather longer than a hour......
Do the right thing - tell your mates about this thread and make them read it.
chris_w666 said:
Vesuvius 996 said:
stormrider2 said:
very hard hitting story 10ps.
im a 17 year old driver, and i admit i can drive like a dick at times. storys like this make me realise how easy it is to lose everything though.
my friend crashed his car on a roundabout, we werent going too fast or anything, it was just a damp roundabout (which is also a notorious bad spot for crashes) and he lost it, putting the car on its roof. we were lucky enough not to be hurt but if it was a meter or two back we would have hit a lamppost and electricity box causing alot more damage.
it made me realise how easy it could be to lose control, it also calmed me down a bit too.
this story hit it even further.
hopefully it'll have the same effect on other young drivers.
Well said, son. I'm 37 and 10p's experience as told by him on here has made me a much more responsible driver.im a 17 year old driver, and i admit i can drive like a dick at times. storys like this make me realise how easy it is to lose everything though.
my friend crashed his car on a roundabout, we werent going too fast or anything, it was just a damp roundabout (which is also a notorious bad spot for crashes) and he lost it, putting the car on its roof. we were lucky enough not to be hurt but if it was a meter or two back we would have hit a lamppost and electricity box causing alot more damage.
it made me realise how easy it could be to lose control, it also calmed me down a bit too.
this story hit it even further.
hopefully it'll have the same effect on other young drivers.
Do the right thing and tell your dumb buddies about this thread. 10p might end up saving some lives.
We've all been 17 and had our first big "scare". We're only ever a split second from killing someone when we're driving, and we'd do well to have 10p's story in the back of our minds all the time.
He was just enjoying a sprited drive, and went 1% over the limit. On a different day, he'd have s@@t his pants and gone home for a beer and a calm down for an hour. As it is, he got rather longer than a hour......
Do the right thing - tell your mates about this thread and make them read it.
djohnson said:
Millionair said:
I believe that you should punish the crime, AFTEr taking in to consideration the outcome...for instance...
However isn't the consequence often just a matter of chance? If I join the motorway without looking and don't hit anything I've comitted the same act as someone who joins a motorway without looking and causes a fatal accident. The difference in outcome is just chance. Why should the latter driver get 5 years and the former nothing at all when the only difference is chance? Given that B hits the pedestrian, does that make his error more serious?
Just to add, and I really don't know how interesting this is, Wealstun Open prison was closed earlier this year in preparation for it to be converted into an extension of the higher security, Catagory C prison next door.
It's a shame in that it was a good open facility and without it, there is going to be a much further travelling distance for the families of open prisoners who've been moved to other sites.
It's a shame in that it was a good open facility and without it, there is going to be a much further travelling distance for the families of open prisoners who've been moved to other sites.
On the subject of the consequences having to be taken into account... not when I crashed they weren't and the point was made in court of totally diregarding the consequences.
I was charged with undue care and attention over 5 years ago now - a minor oversight on my part and on the part of the person that crashed into me. Unfortunately my passenger died.
I was punished in exactly the same was as someone who had been observed by a police officer doing what i did should have been punished.
Have the laws changed now? Im led to believe they have.
I was charged with undue care and attention over 5 years ago now - a minor oversight on my part and on the part of the person that crashed into me. Unfortunately my passenger died.
I was punished in exactly the same was as someone who had been observed by a police officer doing what i did should have been punished.
Have the laws changed now? Im led to believe they have.
I have nothing to add of any value to this thread other than thank you Dan.
I recently copped a speeding fine for doing XXX leptons in a 60 zone. I got off lightly with a hefty fine and 3 points on my licence. Other than the copper being a top bloke and local to the area, i would of copped it severely.
I was mortified that I had got caught as I had no intention of speeding but saw a gap in the traffic and went for it. In no time I was up to the speed i was caught at and it was major, didn't even see Plod until he followed me into my driveway. This sounds like I am a hoon but I am not, i drive well within my limits and 90 odd percent of the time within the speed limit, this one time i did and i thankfully and rightly so got penalised for it.
Like everyone on here, we all think we are Stirling Moss's long lost sons. From the moment I got those 3 points I decided that from now on its Miss Daisy for me. Reading your account has hammered it home more so. I have posted your account on my club website and hope that it hits home with the chaps on there as much as it did me.
Man thanks from one Honda owner to another
I recently copped a speeding fine for doing XXX leptons in a 60 zone. I got off lightly with a hefty fine and 3 points on my licence. Other than the copper being a top bloke and local to the area, i would of copped it severely.
I was mortified that I had got caught as I had no intention of speeding but saw a gap in the traffic and went for it. In no time I was up to the speed i was caught at and it was major, didn't even see Plod until he followed me into my driveway. This sounds like I am a hoon but I am not, i drive well within my limits and 90 odd percent of the time within the speed limit, this one time i did and i thankfully and rightly so got penalised for it.
Like everyone on here, we all think we are Stirling Moss's long lost sons. From the moment I got those 3 points I decided that from now on its Miss Daisy for me. Reading your account has hammered it home more so. I have posted your account on my club website and hope that it hits home with the chaps on there as much as it did me.
Man thanks from one Honda owner to another
Edited by SkinnyBoy on Friday 8th August 11:53
I was in prison, and my job was picking up all the "poo parcels" from outside the cells, as it was bad etiquette to poo in ones slop out bowl. 
I remember seeing "newbies" walking down the to the slop out point with a big turd slopping around in their slop out bowl!
I got paid £4 a day, which was good money.
The above may be made up
I remember seeing "newbies" walking down the to the slop out point with a big turd slopping around in their slop out bowl!
I got paid £4 a day, which was good money.
The above may be made up
Edited by GTIR on Tuesday 12th August 13:56
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