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Silver993tt said:
rude-boy said:
crofty1984 said:
rude-boy said:
This sort of stuff reminds me why I never wish to ride a bike on the road.
Didn't Carl Fogarty never get his road licence?I love speed, I actually love the idea of owning a bike, but the number of times I seen or hurd of people, some known to me, getting scrapped off the road through no fault of their own means the closest i think i'll ever get is a bike engined car.
These days it seems very easy to spot the biker, they're the one with the limp.
mel said:
But how many bikers do you know as opposed to people who travel in cars?
I have around 20 colleagues who drive cars & who also ride bikes. Out of all the people who I know who have died:1 Died of alcohol addiction - 40 years old
3 Died in car accidents - between 23 and 50 years old
2 died of heart attacks - both aged 58
1 died of a stroke - 47 years old
1 died of cancer - 17 years old
1 died during an operation - 24 years old
I've had one car accident where the driver in the other car was killed and I was cut out of my car with air ambulance in attendance. That was the nearest I have been to death on the road - and that was in a car.
Bike incidents:
I came off a bike twice, once when I was 18 and scraped my knee. Once when i was 24, grazed my back.
We do 4-5000 miles of touring in Europe each year for the last 6 years. During that period amongst 20 bike colleagues, there has been one accident where one of my colleagues' front wheel slipped on a wet white line whilst braking. He and his pillion came off, bike slid into a field. Pillion bruised/grazed an ankle.
You need to look at things in perspective to your own experiences.
Edited by Silver993tt on Wednesday 10th December 11:23
10 Pence Short said:
Thank you for the comments everybody. Please feel free to distribute as much as possible. If it only saves one person having a brown trouser moment, it's done some good.
Please don't turn this thread into something that it wasn't intended to be. I think that 10PS put his account up here to try to promote a different attitude when driving - accidents have and always will happen, but there are factors which can reduce them. Bikers are often aware of the risks, they do not need to be pointed out constantly. I have certainly calmed down after reading this thread, and I hope it does the same thing with others.
crofty1984 said:
rude-boy said:
This sort of stuff reminds me why I never wish to ride a bike on the road.
Didn't Carl Fogarty never get his road licence?Have spent the last 4 hrs reading this entire thread and it is certainly going to make me drive in a different manner. Thank you for sharing your story 10PS.
Ry_B said:
It's taken me all night, but I've just read this thread from start to finish. I really do think this should be stickied for all to see.
I can't believe it's not on the legendary threads list.It has got to be one of the best thread ever , right up there with caught pissing in the kettle
MaxAndRuby said:
kiwisr said:
Would anyone here server 5 years for £10 million?
Only if it was guarranteed that they wouldn't find it and take it back whilst I was banged up. The problem is getting caught while you're trying and doing the time for nothing.Otherwise, aye I probably would. Being 5'5" though would be pretty difficult in prison. I'd probably have to spend about 5 million of that money on arse reconstruction... :-(
rah1888 said:
crofty1984 said:
rude-boy said:
This sort of stuff reminds me why I never wish to ride a bike on the road.
Didn't Carl Fogarty never get his road licence?Have spent the last 4 hrs reading this entire thread and it is certainly going to make me drive in a different manner. Thank you for sharing your story 10PS.
One of his mates is a poster on this forum.
Read bits of the thread, but read more or less the whole thing, skipped the troll and anti troll comments though, maybe 10pence could take out the relevant bits and put into a closed sticky of say a page or two long as a warning to what can happen ?
Not been driving much for a few weeks due to an operation on the toes, but certainly will be driving differently...
Not been driving much for a few weeks due to an operation on the toes, but certainly will be driving differently...
Scraggles said:
Read bits of the thread, but read more or less the whole thing, skipped the troll and anti troll comments though, maybe 10pence could take out the relevant bits and put into a closed sticky of say a page or two long as a warning to what can happen ?
Not been driving much for a few weeks due to an operation on the toes, but certainly will be driving differently...
Indeed. I'm at home with the flu and haven't driven since I read that. I fully expect to be driving differently when I venture out for the first times in days later...Not been driving much for a few weeks due to an operation on the toes, but certainly will be driving differently...
)There are lots of sob stories that happen to other people... none of them change what I do. I won't change the way I drive because of this topic.
I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
I Was driving down the road yesterday, as you do. I was in the mrs Renault Safrane- a 2.2L leviathon of a car. Much to my distaste, the Mrs had put Take That in the CD player so that came out and I was looking for something that tickled my fancy in the CD wallet. I was doing about 35 in a 30 maybe a little more and the roads were quiet with it being boxing day.
At the very moment of leafing through that wallet with one hand, with my attention drawn away from the road I thought about this thread. What if?.
I put the wallet on the passenger seat and put the radio on- something which you can do without looking away from the important bit. Not five seconds later a young girl on her new bike wobbled off the edge of the kerb as I approached and fell off, fully into the road save for the bottom part of her legs- I can see it now clear as if it was ten seconds ago.
With my attention on the road, braking and swerving out was not a big issue, the ABS snatched a couple of times but I steered clear relatively easily, probably by about five feet. I stopped and it seemed the girl was fine, her poor dad was mortified, he had another, younger child with him and his attention had slipped from the older one. He apologised and I carried on my way.
I Have to ask myself though, if I had still been leafing through that CD wallet full of girly drivel would I have seen and reacted in time? Would the reaction have been delayed enough to eradicate that five feet I missed her by? I could have quite easily killed a 7 or 8 year old girl today because I would have been looking at CD's.
Ten Pence Short- Although she will never know it, that small child probably owes you her life. So does her family who's lives would have been ruined if i'd have....well....you know. At the very least I owe you my sanity, with a daughter of my own i'd never have forgiven myself and quite possibly my freedom too as I was technically speeding and would not have been paying attention. My Mrs and 2 young children would also have had to endure the consequences, another thought which does not bear thinking about.
As it is I got to drive off with butterflies and jelly legs, home to contemplate the event (and to relay it here, it seems).
I Hope you take away from this some small modicum of satisfaction that you have made a difference. I also hope that Brian the biker, should he be privvy to this, can draw a little solice from knowing that this whole experience has made enough of an impact to save a life.
Thankyou.
Dave S.
At the very moment of leafing through that wallet with one hand, with my attention drawn away from the road I thought about this thread. What if?.
I put the wallet on the passenger seat and put the radio on- something which you can do without looking away from the important bit. Not five seconds later a young girl on her new bike wobbled off the edge of the kerb as I approached and fell off, fully into the road save for the bottom part of her legs- I can see it now clear as if it was ten seconds ago.
With my attention on the road, braking and swerving out was not a big issue, the ABS snatched a couple of times but I steered clear relatively easily, probably by about five feet. I stopped and it seemed the girl was fine, her poor dad was mortified, he had another, younger child with him and his attention had slipped from the older one. He apologised and I carried on my way.
I Have to ask myself though, if I had still been leafing through that CD wallet full of girly drivel would I have seen and reacted in time? Would the reaction have been delayed enough to eradicate that five feet I missed her by? I could have quite easily killed a 7 or 8 year old girl today because I would have been looking at CD's.
Ten Pence Short- Although she will never know it, that small child probably owes you her life. So does her family who's lives would have been ruined if i'd have....well....you know. At the very least I owe you my sanity, with a daughter of my own i'd never have forgiven myself and quite possibly my freedom too as I was technically speeding and would not have been paying attention. My Mrs and 2 young children would also have had to endure the consequences, another thought which does not bear thinking about.
As it is I got to drive off with butterflies and jelly legs, home to contemplate the event (and to relay it here, it seems).
I Hope you take away from this some small modicum of satisfaction that you have made a difference. I also hope that Brian the biker, should he be privvy to this, can draw a little solice from knowing that this whole experience has made enough of an impact to save a life.
Thankyou.
Dave S.
Marcellus said:
Dave - imo that post is worthy of a topic in it's own right!!
I guess we've all done the same (leafing through the CD wallet) and not had the wake up call (yet)!!
I did consider it, but as such it would fairly quickly vanish into the annals of P&P history. Attached to a 'legendary thread' it stands more of a chance of being read, especially by the person it's intended for- TenPS. I guess we've all done the same (leafing through the CD wallet) and not had the wake up call (yet)!!
Gin Slinger said:
There are lots of sob stories that happen to other people... none of them change what I do. I won't change the way I drive because of this topic.
I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
Fully agree with Dave and his post. It is threads like this that do make you think twice about what you do... meanwhile, some people are on a different abnoxious planet (see above) I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
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