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Gin Slinger said:
There are lots of sob stories that happen to other people... none of them change what I do. I won't change the way I drive because of this topic.
I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
Fully agree with Dave and his post. It is threads like this that do make you think twice about what you do... meanwhile, some people are on a different abnoxious planet (see above) !I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
DaveL485 said:
...... Not five seconds later a young girl on her new bike wobbled off the edge of the kerb as I approached and fell off, fully into the road save for the bottom part of her legs- I can see it now clear as if it was ten seconds ago.....
You should seek out her parents, bludgeon them into near death coma, and make sure they understand the bit about how being responsible parents involves NOT letting young kids near main roads on new bikes!!!My 7 year old is not allowed to cross the road outside our house on her own, let alone ride her bike there. But there is a 4 year old down the street who wanders hither and yon on her own.
Her parents must have been at the back of the queue when they were handing out the brains!
King Herald said:
DaveL485 said:
...... Not five seconds later a young girl on her new bike wobbled off the edge of the kerb as I approached and fell off, fully into the road save for the bottom part of her legs- I can see it now clear as if it was ten seconds ago.....
You should seek out her parents, bludgeon them into near death coma, and make sure they understand the bit about how being responsible parents involves NOT letting young kids near main roads on new bikes!!!My 7 year old is not allowed to cross the road outside our house on her own, let alone ride her bike there. But there is a 4 year old down the street who wanders hither and yon on her own.
Her parents must have been at the back of the queue when they were handing out the brains!
DaveL485 said:
I Was driving down the road yesterday, as you do. I was in the mrs Renault Safrane- a 2.2L leviathon of a car. Much to my distaste, the Mrs had put Take That in the CD player so that came out and I was looking for something that tickled my fancy in the CD wallet. I was doing about 35 in a 30 maybe a little more and the roads were quiet with it being boxing day.
At the very moment of leafing through that wallet with one hand, with my attention drawn away from the road I thought about this thread. What if?.
I put the wallet on the passenger seat and put the radio on- something which you can do without looking away from the important bit. Not five seconds later a young girl on her new bike wobbled off the edge of the kerb as I approached and fell off, fully into the road save for the bottom part of her legs- I can see it now clear as if it was ten seconds ago.
With my attention on the road, braking and swerving out was not a big issue, the ABS snatched a couple of times but I steered clear relatively easily, probably by about five feet. I stopped and it seemed the girl was fine, her poor dad was mortified, he had another, younger child with him and his attention had slipped from the older one. He apologised and I carried on my way.
I Have to ask myself though, if I had still been leafing through that CD wallet full of girly drivel would I have seen and reacted in time? Would the reaction have been delayed enough to eradicate that five feet I missed her by? I could have quite easily killed a 7 or 8 year old girl today because I would have been looking at CD's.
Ten Pence Short- Although she will never know it, that small child probably owes you her life. So does her family who's lives would have been ruined if i'd have....well....you know. At the very least I owe you my sanity, with a daughter of my own i'd never have forgiven myself and quite possibly my freedom too as I was technically speeding and would not have been paying attention. My Mrs and 2 young children would also have had to endure the consequences, another thought which does not bear thinking about.
As it is I got to drive off with butterflies and jelly legs, home to contemplate the event (and to relay it here, it seems).
I Hope you take away from this some small modicum of satisfaction that you have made a difference. I also hope that Brian the biker, should he be privvy to this, can draw a little solice from knowing that this whole experience has made enough of an impact to save a life.
Thankyou.
Dave S.
very thought provoking At the very moment of leafing through that wallet with one hand, with my attention drawn away from the road I thought about this thread. What if?.
I put the wallet on the passenger seat and put the radio on- something which you can do without looking away from the important bit. Not five seconds later a young girl on her new bike wobbled off the edge of the kerb as I approached and fell off, fully into the road save for the bottom part of her legs- I can see it now clear as if it was ten seconds ago.
With my attention on the road, braking and swerving out was not a big issue, the ABS snatched a couple of times but I steered clear relatively easily, probably by about five feet. I stopped and it seemed the girl was fine, her poor dad was mortified, he had another, younger child with him and his attention had slipped from the older one. He apologised and I carried on my way.
I Have to ask myself though, if I had still been leafing through that CD wallet full of girly drivel would I have seen and reacted in time? Would the reaction have been delayed enough to eradicate that five feet I missed her by? I could have quite easily killed a 7 or 8 year old girl today because I would have been looking at CD's.
Ten Pence Short- Although she will never know it, that small child probably owes you her life. So does her family who's lives would have been ruined if i'd have....well....you know. At the very least I owe you my sanity, with a daughter of my own i'd never have forgiven myself and quite possibly my freedom too as I was technically speeding and would not have been paying attention. My Mrs and 2 young children would also have had to endure the consequences, another thought which does not bear thinking about.
As it is I got to drive off with butterflies and jelly legs, home to contemplate the event (and to relay it here, it seems).
I Hope you take away from this some small modicum of satisfaction that you have made a difference. I also hope that Brian the biker, should he be privvy to this, can draw a little solice from knowing that this whole experience has made enough of an impact to save a life.
Thankyou.
Dave S.
thankyou for sharing, it is all to easy for attention to wander when behind the wheel and before you know it something may happen to change the course of your whole life and others envolved and many more other people too, more than you can imagine
keep safe people
DaveL485 said:
King Herald said:
DaveL485 said:
...... Not five seconds later a young girl on her new bike wobbled off the edge of the kerb as I approached and fell off, fully into the road save for the bottom part of her legs- I can see it now clear as if it was ten seconds ago.....
You should seek out her parents, bludgeon them into near death coma, and make sure they understand the bit about how being responsible parents involves NOT letting young kids near main roads on new bikes!!!My 7 year old is not allowed to cross the road outside our house on her own, let alone ride her bike there. But there is a 4 year old down the street who wanders hither and yon on her own.
Her parents must have been at the back of the queue when they were handing out the brains!
It is no good planning for the best, hoping things will be okay, you should HOPE for the best, but plan for the worst. Such as in take the kid to an empty closed car park or playground or back yard, wherever, to practise on her first bike.
To everyone interested:
I have turned a lot of 10PS(Daniel)'s posts and all his diary excerpts so far into a blog, which is a little easier to read and forward to others.
It's here:
http://prison-diary.blogspot.com/
I hope this will get forwarded to anyone and everyone that it can help.
Thanks,
Tim
I have turned a lot of 10PS(Daniel)'s posts and all his diary excerpts so far into a blog, which is a little easier to read and forward to others.
It's here:
http://prison-diary.blogspot.com/
I hope this will get forwarded to anyone and everyone that it can help.
Thanks,
Tim
Gin Slinger said:
There are lots of sob stories that happen to other people... none of them change what I do. I won't change the way I drive because of this topic.
As you approach your 17th birthday, with the chance of getting shot of your box cart and stepping into a real car, you will probably change you opinion a little.King Herald said:
Gin Slinger said:
There are lots of sob stories that happen to other people... none of them change what I do. I won't change the way I drive because of this topic.
As you approach your 17th birthday, with the chance of getting shot of your box cart and stepping into a real car, you will probably change you opinion a little.Gin Slinger said:
There are lots of sob stories that happen to other people... none of them change what I do. I won't change the way I drive because of this topic.
I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
Jaysus.I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
ApexJimi said:
Gin Slinger said:
There are lots of sob stories that happen to other people... none of them change what I do. I won't change the way I drive because of this topic.
I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
Jaysus.I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
Tonsko said:
ApexJimi said:
Gin Slinger said:
There are lots of sob stories that happen to other people... none of them change what I do. I won't change the way I drive because of this topic.
I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
Jaysus.I just think it won't happen to me (bit like smokers think they won't be the one with lung cancer) it always happens to other people, not me
King Herald said:
Nope, I'm not buying it. A young kid on a new bike should NOT be alongside a main road. Her parents were guilty of that, NOT taking their eye off her for three seconds.
It is no good planning for the best, hoping things will be okay, you should HOPE for the best, but plan for the worst. Such as in take the kid to an empty closed car park or playground or back yard, wherever, to practise on her first bike.
All parents please refer to King Herald for any queries, he is clearly the perfect parent.It is no good planning for the best, hoping things will be okay, you should HOPE for the best, but plan for the worst. Such as in take the kid to an empty closed car park or playground or back yard, wherever, to practise on her first bike.
Stop being so ruddy judgemental. I happen to agree with you that the parents in this case should have thought it through fully, but sometimes kids do stupid things that NO parent can necessarily legislate for.
Cheeky Jim said:
King Herald said:
Nope, I'm not buying it. A young kid on a new bike should NOT be alongside a main road. Her parents were guilty of that, NOT taking their eye off her for three seconds.
It is no good planning for the best, hoping things will be okay, you should HOPE for the best, but plan for the worst. Such as in take the kid to an empty closed car park or playground or back yard, wherever, to practise on her first bike.
All parents please refer to King Herald for any queries, he is clearly the perfect parent.It is no good planning for the best, hoping things will be okay, you should HOPE for the best, but plan for the worst. Such as in take the kid to an empty closed car park or playground or back yard, wherever, to practise on her first bike.
Stop being so ruddy judgemental. I happen to agree with you that the parents in this case should have thought it through fully, but sometimes kids do stupid things that NO parent can necessarily legislate for.
I'm not the perfect parent, just a normal one. Normal is looking after your kids.
Wifeys stepfather works in a youth prison. By all accounts it really isn't as cushty as the media make out and as someone who doesn't fit in with all the other lifelong scumbags that litter these places you'd stand out like a sore thumb as a target. Genuinely nasty people await you.
24 hours a day locked up with a bunch of losers and nutters. Big brother it is not.
24 hours a day locked up with a bunch of losers and nutters. Big brother it is not.
My brother spent a couple of weeks on remand in HMP Feltham a couple of months ago and reckoned it wasn't that bad (boredom aside) if you carry your self in a manner that indicates you aren't going to take any crap and don't go around thinking you are charlie big potatoes at the same time. He said a few people came unstuck very quickly when they waltzed over to the pool table 'owned' by a gang and proclaimed they were playing next.
It's not that tough, until you understand the big wall you built around yourself to get through it, has taken more away from you than you realise.
Three years down the line, it's only now I can see how destructive the whole experience was to me as a person. It's cost me a relationship with the one who stuck by me like glue through it all. That wall stopped me ever giving back what I had taken from her in love and mental energy.
If I have one piece of advice for anybody who has gone or is going through a similar experience, it's to knock that wall down and open right up to the people who count the moment it's safe to do so. Regret lasts a life time.
Three years down the line, it's only now I can see how destructive the whole experience was to me as a person. It's cost me a relationship with the one who stuck by me like glue through it all. That wall stopped me ever giving back what I had taken from her in love and mental energy.
If I have one piece of advice for anybody who has gone or is going through a similar experience, it's to knock that wall down and open right up to the people who count the moment it's safe to do so. Regret lasts a life time.
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