So these management consultancies...

[Justayellowbadge]

Olf said:

"Man kicked to death by 6ft squirrel"

Sounds Jolly.

[Olf]

Justayellowbadge said:

Olf said:

"Man kicked to death by 6ft squirrel"

Sounds Jolly.

dom

[thewave]

Olf said:

Justayellowbadge said:

Olf said:

"Man kicked to death by 6ft squirrel"

Sounds Jolly.

dom

inatrix

[Olf]

thewave said:

Olf said:

Justayellowbadge said:

Olf said:

"Man kicked to death by 6ft squirrel"

Sounds Jolly.

dom

inatrix

Nicely back to the squirrel suit.

[blindswelledrat]

Bump for anyone who hasn't noticed this thread yet because it has such a boring title.
It should be named "click on this thread to see some shaved clout" in order to get the recognition it deserves

[Colonial]

Nightime reminder for all to read this

[escargot]

blowy84 said:

i wish in a small way that good friends that i have drifted apart from had confronted me like that (even in public). it has forced the issues to be aired, whereas the longer you have not been in contact the less likely the issues would ever be known to both parties. and eventually the contact is lost forever. good luck to you two. making me think of good friends i have lost for reasons i can't even remember.

God that was boring.


The rest of the thread however. :casts+10spelloffkinghilarity:

[blindswelledrat]

escargot said:

blowy84 said:

i wish in a small way that good friends that i have drifted apart from had confronted me like that (even in public). it has forced the issues to be aired, whereas the longer you have not been in contact the less likely the issues would ever be known to both parties. and eventually the contact is lost forever. good luck to you two. making me think of good friends i have lost for reasons i can't even remember.

God that was boring.


:

I posted something very similar and then deleted it thinking it was a little rude.
Well done for caring less than me

[thewave]

blindswelledrat said:

Bump for anyone who hasn't noticed this thread yet because it has such a boring title.
It should be named "click on this thread to see some shaved clout" in order to get the recognition it deserves

I kept seeing the title and ignoring, but after it had stuck around I had to have a butcher, oh so glad I did...


Olfs mate where are you!?!?!?!

[Dakkon]

Olf said:

My best mate starting working for one of the big ones about 18 months ago. I'm sure he's getting along fine. We haven't spoken since.

Well nearly not. He spends every working week up north somewhere. Says he finishes work at nine most nights. The won't pay for his overnight accommodation on the Sunday night or the Friday night so he has to drive up early Monday morning and come back Friday night in his own time. From what he's saying I guess he's doing a 70 hour week almost every week.

Only I'm not sure to believe it. I mean I'd tell them to get fked if it were me. 70 hour weeks, no personal time in a crappy hotel miles from friends and family. His boss is apparently an arse so no fun there either.

Is this for real. Do people really do this? Do these companies really demand this over a long term or is he either:

a/ a sop?

b/ a liar?

I have worked for consultancies ever since leaving Uni and I can assure you it is true.

If he works for any of the big five they will flog him to death, the work culture he will be in will put pressure on him to work late so that the boss does not even have to push that hard.

The lure of benefits, nice company car, annual bonus and of course promotion to get even more benefits, an even better compnay car and an even bigger bonus will keep them working all hours.

Inside five years he will be earning 70k if he is any good.

[Don]

Dakkon said:

Inside five years he will be earning 70k if he is any good.

This is the attraction of the consultancies. The problem is when you get old, experienced and properly valuable - you don't want to do it anymore. Wild horses could not drag me back. In my mid-twenties it was an ACE lifestyle. I was earning a shed-load of money which I couldn't spend because everything was on expenses. I went out every night for dinner in fine restaurants paid for by the firm - I dated lasses from the consultancy AND the clients and paid meals out on expenses because we were both away from home. I remember it as a time of working (very) hard, playing (very) hard, earning a fortune, driving ludicrous distances constantly and startling quantities of sex.

Now it would four nights away from home every week in return for the chance to destroy a company car. No thanks.

[richyb]

Olf said:

My best mate starting working for one of the big ones about 18 months ago. I'm sure he's getting along fine. We haven't spoken since.

Well nearly not. He spends every working week up north somewhere. Says he finishes work at nine most nights. The won't pay for his overnight accommodation on the Sunday night or the Friday night so he has to drive up early Monday morning and come back Friday night in his own time. From what he's saying I guess he's doing a 70 hour week almost every week.

Only I'm not sure to believe it. I mean I'd tell them to get fked if it were me. 70 hour weeks, no personal time in a crappy hotel miles from friends and family. His boss is apparently an arse so no fun there either.

Is this for real. Do people really do this? Do these companies really demand this over a long term or is he either:

a/ a sop?

b/ a liar?

As said people will do anything for the dollar it seems. I have a friend who works for BP who must work minimum 50 hours a week and more likely 60 hours a week then doing the odd bit from home on the weekends. He imagines it will get him to the top but I think they probably give all employees that impression.

[NoelWatson]

Dakkon said:

Olf said:

My best mate starting working for one of the big ones about 18 months ago. I'm sure he's getting along fine. We haven't spoken since.

Well nearly not. He spends every working week up north somewhere. Says he finishes work at nine most nights. The won't pay for his overnight accommodation on the Sunday night or the Friday night so he has to drive up early Monday morning and come back Friday night in his own time. From what he's saying I guess he's doing a 70 hour week almost every week.

Only I'm not sure to believe it. I mean I'd tell them to get fked if it were me. 70 hour weeks, no personal time in a crappy hotel miles from friends and family. His boss is apparently an arse so no fun there either.

Is this for real. Do people really do this? Do these companies really demand this over a long term or is he either:

a/ a sop?

b/ a liar?

I have worked for consultancies ever since leaving Uni and I can assure you it is true.

If he works for any of the big five they will flog him to death, the work culture he will be in will put pressure on him to work late so that the boss does not even have to push that hard.

The lure of benefits, nice company car, annual bonus and of course promotion to get even more benefits, an even better compnay car and an even bigger bonus will keep them working all hours.

Inside five years he will be earning 70k if he is any good.

Who not go contracting instead and earn more money with less hours?

[blindswelledrat]

FFS you two. This thread ceased to be about the virtues of management consultancies when it perished with zero interest after less than a page months ago.

How can you be more excited discussing that than the fact that Olf has just been caught 'with his cock in the dog' so-to-speak?

Unbelievable

[Don]

NoelWatson said:

Dakkon said:

Olf said:

My best mate starting working for one of the big ones about 18 months ago. I'm sure he's getting along fine. We haven't spoken since.

Well nearly not. He spends every working week up north somewhere. Says he finishes work at nine most nights. The won't pay for his overnight accommodation on the Sunday night or the Friday night so he has to drive up early Monday morning and come back Friday night in his own time. From what he's saying I guess he's doing a 70 hour week almost every week.

Only I'm not sure to believe it. I mean I'd tell them to get fked if it were me. 70 hour weeks, no personal time in a crappy hotel miles from friends and family. His boss is apparently an arse so no fun there either.

Is this for real. Do people really do this? Do these companies really demand this over a long term or is he either:

a/ a sop?

b/ a liar?

I have worked for consultancies ever since leaving Uni and I can assure you it is true.

If he works for any of the big five they will flog him to death, the work culture he will be in will put pressure on him to work late so that the boss does not even have to push that hard.

The lure of benefits, nice company car, annual bonus and of course promotion to get even more benefits, an even better compnay car and an even bigger bonus will keep them working all hours.

Inside five years he will be earning 70k if he is any good.

Who not go contracting instead and earn more money with less hours?

Eventually that's what they do. But to slow down the attrition rates a consultancy often offers

• the potential to become a "partner" and own a share (in some)
• corporate benefits like ten or fifteen days training per year
• corporate beanies (jollies) - parties, track days, karting, meals out, networking
• career progression like skills building and experience you coudn't get any other way
• lots of sex with the junior staff

OK. The last one isn't official. But that doesn't mean it's not available. You just have to show a little initiative and avoid stting on your own doorstep.

Eventually anyone will tire of it. But as a way to get tooled up to really earn some dosh it's not a bad way to go about it. You pay, of course, in the sheer hell of long hours etc. It isn't a life for a married person.

[Don]

blindswelledrat said:

FFS you two. This thread ceased to be about the virtues of management consultancies when it perished with zero interest after less than a page months ago.

How can you be more excited discussing that than the fact that Olf has just been caught 'with his cock in the dog' so-to-speak?

Unbelievable

Err two old mates bhing? Funny? Yes. Over? Yes. Moving on...

...and could you point out the beastiality part because it sounds really funny and I missed it.

[Harry Flashman]

Christ.

Several points:

1) 50 hour weeks are perfectly normal - can't believe you lot get het up about them. If I count the time I spend working from home at weekends/on the Blackberry/travelling it easily heads north of 70. It's the price of wanting to sit on the board.

2) Olf. Oh dear God.

3) This is going to make me think very carefully about the consequences of any Mrs Flashman stumbling on this site after one of my periodic confessions. Oh yes.

[NoelWatson]

Harry Flashman said:

Christ.

Several points:

1) 50 hour weeks are perfectly normal - can't believe you lot get het up about them. If I count the time I spend working from home at weekends/on the Blackberry/travelling it easily heads north of 70. It's the price of wanting to sit on the board.

What are the odds of a typical employee working in these consultancies making partner?

[Timmy33]

Harry Flashman said:

3) This is going to make me think very carefully about the consequences of any Mrs Flashman stumbling on this site after one of my periodic confessions. Oh yes.

....how many are there presently?

[MK4 Slowride]

Anyone emailed gasket69 yet?

We need to oil the wheels on this methinks.