SX throttle cable a bit sticky

SX throttle cable a bit sticky

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adam quantrill

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11,538 posts

242 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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On the SX the throttle cable is about twice as long as usual, going as it does all around the engine bay before it gets to the throttle body on the far side. Just this morning it's started sticking, holding the engine at 1500-2000 rpm idle. Any ideas how to lubricate this chappie?

GreenV8S

30,194 posts

284 months

Monday 6th October 2008
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It's possible to buy cable oilers that soak oil through the whole thing (look in Frosts catalogue), or just put a drop of light oil at either end and let it be drawn into the cable in normal use.

Roger McLittriss

493 posts

254 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Make sure it doesn't have a nylon liner as any oil in there will cause it to swell and jam the inner cable!

leorest

2,346 posts

239 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Roger McLittriss said:
Make sure it doesn't have a nylon liner as any oil in there will cause it to swell and jam the inner cable!
Silicone grease is recommended on the handbrake cable for exactly the same reason. You could try spray silicone oil?

djc100

490 posts

246 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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On my car the position and angle of the cable adaptor entering the bulkhead was not in line with the pedal and the inner cable sawed a groove in the adaptor and then began to stick - worth a check.
David
(was DJC1001)

adam quantrill

Original Poster:

11,538 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Good idea - there are two different parts o the cable so one is bound to swell up - I have silicone spray for the windows so will try that. Cheers.

350zwelgje

1,820 posts

261 months

Tuesday 7th October 2008
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Could also be a bit of fraying (happend to my throttle cable) and wrecked the full cable. Worth checking for this as in the end mine snapped being into 2 weeks of wedge ownership!
Outer was ok, and replaced with a push bike cable as original replacement was expensive for what it was. After 7 years the cable is still fine, and carry a spare in the boot.

Rob

adam quantrill

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11,538 posts

242 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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Ahh - I think I see the problem now:



As you can see, only one bit of the wire was holding the nipple on! Plus all the fraying was stopping the cable getting back in the 'ole.

After a bit or re-plaiting the cable - luckily it all went back together perfectly - and soldered the nipple back on, almost all was well:



however the cable didn't like the silicone oil I had sprayed down the middle and was sticking really badly, so badly in fact that I though it was frayed in the middle too. So I took it all apart, it was fine, so I put Moly grease all over the inner and put it back together. This time it worked perfectly. It mut be that the silicone oil was too thin.

THe cause of the original end snapping off after a mere 26,000 miles seems to be sloppy engineering - no wonder TVR's got a bit of a bad rep for being unreliable. Firstly the end of the accellerator lever with the cable in wasn't very well aligned with the cable end in the bulkhead, causing it to pull to one side, and secondly the lever was really sharp at the back end - cutting into the cable. So I bent the lever slightly and deburred the hole that it engages in, should last much longer this time. If only they spent 10 minutes in the factory on a little quality.

pwd95

8,383 posts

238 months

Saturday 11th October 2008
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Saw the exact same thing on the 450 when I replaced the cable, slightly out of line etc.

leorest

2,346 posts

239 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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I'm not sure that solder is a good long term solution though. Proper crimping or silver solder would be better IMHO.
Just a thought... If the cable didn't run smooth with silicone oil could the outer be damaged?

Also make sure the return spring/s is/are 100% operational just in case you loose your nipple(s) again (pun intended).

adam quantrill

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11,538 posts

242 months

Monday 13th October 2008
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It was soldered on in the first place 20 years ago and it wasn't the solder that snapped - so I reckon that's safe.

I think the outer is fine - it's silky smooth now.

Jasper Gilder

2,166 posts

273 months

Friday 17th October 2008
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Happened on mine at 5000 miles in 1989 - Chap from the RAC fixed it and new cable went on after - no problems since - I think the cable is Range Rover if I recall

adam quantrill

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11,538 posts

242 months

Friday 3rd October 2014
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Bump for Maston and this fix has been going well now for 6 years!

adam quantrill

Original Poster:

11,538 posts

242 months

Friday 6th May 2016
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Another bump and adding a link to the FAQ.

adam quantrill

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11,538 posts

242 months

Monday 30th May 2016
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Bump again! Cable has done 50k miles after the repair with no further problems.

Edited by adam quantrill on Monday 30th May 17:40

RCK974X

2,521 posts

149 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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Interesting about the dodgy engineering.

My bugbear in the 280 is the truly TERRIBLE design bodge they did on the cable clutch, made EVEN WORSE by poor finishing and quality control.
This pushes the outer of the cable, but also has a big bend on the inner, and [original setup] rubs against inner, making it's life very short.
Quick fix takes about 20 minutes in total in your garage, with a bit of cutting and filing. TVR could have done this in 2 minutes whilst building it in the first place. It's just sloppy.

I've managed to improve mine, and it already makes quite a difference, but to do it properly either requires a setup like the 'M' series, or change it to hydraulic like the 'S'.

mrzigazaga

18,555 posts

165 months

Tuesday 31st May 2016
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Hi Andy...The 280i clutch cable was something i used to dread...Without the mod that you suggested it would snap every year without fail so i always carried a spare and a tin to drain off the oil from the filter as that needs to come out to get to the adjuster...ARPITA.....Chhers...Ziga

boxer456

57 posts

107 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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With a but of imagination I managed to fit the new TVR parts accelerator cable. Works great!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLf4aYv3vz4






mrzigazaga

18,555 posts

165 months

Sunday 5th June 2016
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Sounds really nice...Plenty of ack ack support..Looks like the A20...Looks a shyte as the A2....smile