Apostrophe'''''s, when did the rot set in?

Apostrophe'''''s, when did the rot set in?

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El Guapo

2,787 posts

190 months

Monday 30th March 2015
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Mopar440 said:
jamesson said:
Looks OK to me. Where's the pot/kettle factor?
Both Marshalla and myself can see it. Can't you?
I can't see it either. Please educate us.

tobinen

9,226 posts

145 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Adenauer said:
Exactly, and each time there are people complaining about her she get's another tenners worth of fuel to put in her broomstick.

marshalla

15,902 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Mopar440 said:
Both Marshalla and myself can see it. Can't you?
I see something, but it's not what you think it is.

ShiningWit

10,203 posts

128 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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_Deano said:
April Fool's items for sale

popeyewhite

19,869 posts

120 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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El Guapo said:
Mopar440 said:
jamesson said:
Looks OK to me. Where's the pot/kettle factor?
Both Marshalla and myself can see it. Can't you?
I can't see it either. Please educate us.
The son does not own the primary school, and the parents do not own the evening. The girls do not own the toilet. Also quotes go within ', not ".

marshalla

15,902 posts

201 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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popeyewhite said:
The son does not own the primary school, and the parents do not own the evening. The girls do not own the toilet. Also quotes go within ', not ".
I agree that it is not possessive in the sense of ownership, but disagree with your implied assertion that apostrophes are incorrect in those contexts. You have over-simplified the rule.

"The school of the son"
"The evening for (or of) the parents"
"The toilets for (or of) the girls"

In all cases a possessive contraction should be (and is) correct.

As for the balderdash about inverted commas, well rolleyes

jamesson

2,990 posts

221 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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Mopar440 said:
Both Marshalla and myself can see it. Can't you?
I see someone who doesn't know how to use reflexive pronouns.

popeyewhite

19,869 posts

120 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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marshalla said:
popeyewhite said:
The son does not own the primary school, and the parents do not own the evening. The girls do not own the toilet. Also quotes go within ', not ".
I agree that it is not possessive in the sense of ownership, but disagree with your implied assertion that apostrophes are incorrect in those contexts. You have over-simplified the rule.

"The school of the son"
"The evening for (or of) the parents"
"The toilets for (or of) the girls"

In all cases a possessive contraction should be (and is) correct.

As for the balderdash about inverted commas, well rolleyes
That's your opinion. As it happens, I think you've overcomplicated things. First rule is apostrophes denote possession, which you've agreed with.

Inverted commas are for direct quotes.These:

"The school of the son"
"The evening for (or of) the parents"
"The toilets for (or of) the girls"

Are all incorrect.

This:

'The school of the son'
'The evening for (or of) the parents'
'The toilets for (or of) the girls'

Is correct.

There was me thinking you knew your grammar. smile


ATTAK Z

11,003 posts

189 months

Wednesday 1st April 2015
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popeyewhite said:
marshalla said:
popeyewhite said:
The son does not own the primary school, and the parents do not own the evening. The girls do not own the toilet. Also quotes go within ', not ".
I agree that it is not possessive in the sense of ownership, but disagree with your implied assertion that apostrophes are incorrect in those contexts. You have over-simplified the rule.

"The school of the son"
"The evening for (or of) the parents"
"The toilets for (or of) the girls"

In all cases a possessive contraction should be (and is) correct.

As for the balderdash about inverted commas, well rolleyes
That's your opinion. As it happens, I think you've overcomplicated things. First rule is apostrophes denote possession, which you've agreed with.

Inverted commas are for direct quotes.These:

"The school of the son"
"The evening for (or of) the parents"
"The toilets for (or of) the girls"

Are all incorrect.

This:

'The school of the son'
'The evening for (or of) the parents'
'The toilets for (or of) the girls'

Is correct.

There was me thinking you knew your grammar. smile
This is going to be interesting smile

marshalla

15,902 posts

201 months

Thursday 2nd April 2015
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paulwoof said:
why does the word "sheep" not have a plural.

Look at that sheep - Implies you are going to look at a singular sheep
Look at those sheep - Implies you are going to be look at more than 1 sheep, Commonly known as a herd.
You would not say look at those sheep's as that would be ridiculous.

But then,
Look at the cow
Look at those cow's

Look at that duck
Look at those duck's

Look at that chicken
Look at those chicken's.

What is so special about sheep that the English language decided not to pluralize them?

popeyewhite

19,869 posts

120 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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ATTAK Z said:
This is going to be interesting smile
whistle

DibblyDobbler

11,271 posts

197 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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popeyewhite said:
whistle
Everything you said was ste though?

popeyewhite

19,869 posts

120 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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DibblyDobbler said:
Everything you said was ste though?
Well this is a friendly place. Obviously discussion on points of difference, and admission of mistakes made is not how it's done on here.

Misuse of the eroteme btw Dibbly. wink

DibblyDobbler

11,271 posts

197 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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popeyewhite said:
Well this is a friendly place. Obviously discussion on points of difference, and admission of mistakes made is not how it's done on here.

Misuse of the eroteme btw Dibbly. wink
I know what eroteme means now! thumbup

(ps - you didn't really think this would be a friendly thread did you?!)

marshalla

15,902 posts

201 months

Friday 3rd April 2015
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cypher007 said:
noticed a few cars over the last couple of months that, when checking them on the gov site and askmid are to say the least not leagal.

car one:
no insurance no tax no mot.

car two:
no record on dvla as its been marked as no longer on the road. it was very much on the road when I spotted it.

car three:
totally scrubbed to buggery on the inside front tyre, guessing the other side the same. mot expires march 2016? cant see him putting that sort of wear on the tyre in about 2 weeks.

so what gives?

popeyewhite

19,869 posts

120 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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DibblyDobbler said:
popeyewhite said:
Well this is a friendly place. Obviously discussion on points of difference, and admission of mistakes made is not how it's done on here.

Misuse of the eroteme btw Dibbly. wink
I know what eroteme means now! thumbup

(ps - you didn't really think this would be a friendly thread did you?!)
Haha silly me! I suspect there exists an element of competition on here which posters take personally. Isn't internet-land wonderful! smile

Negative Creep

24,980 posts

227 months

Saturday 4th April 2015
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marshalla

15,902 posts

201 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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LordJammy said:
No it wont

marshalla

15,902 posts

201 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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popeyewhite said:
Went to take a V10 S8 out for a test a few years ago. Got to the dealers house - very nice farmhouse in the deep countryside - and saw he had a number of other 'distracting' performance cars in my price range. Got chatting, had a pre-test drive cup of tea in his kitchen and didn't really take notice of the trophies, magazine clippings, photos of drivers being 'champagned' etc dotted all around the kitchen.

Out on the test drive we took a bend that if I was pushing it might be done at..65-70. He went round, all tyres screaming, at over 100. This went on for about 20 minutes until he got bored and I drove us home. Turned out he was a consistent winner in some Porsche Cup race series, knew all the famous people that non-racing drivers like me have heard of, and name dropped the whole time. I thought he was a wker, but still bought the car. Not really a 'worst test drive EVER'..but it was pretty alarming at the time.

popeyewhite

19,869 posts

120 months

Monday 6th April 2015
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marshalla said:
popeyewhite said:
Went to take a V10 S8 out for a test a few years ago. Got to the dealers house - very nice farmhouse in the deep countryside - and saw he had a number of other 'distracting' performance cars in my price range. Got chatting, had a pre-test drive cup of tea in his kitchen and didn't really take notice of the trophies, magazine clippings, photos of drivers being 'champagned' etc dotted all around the kitchen.

Out on the test drive we took a bend that if I was pushing it might be done at..65-70. He went round, all tyres screaming, at over 100. This went on for about 20 minutes until he got bored and I drove us home. Turned out he was a consistent winner in some Porsche Cup race series, knew all the famous people that non-racing drivers like me have heard of, and name dropped the whole time. I thought he was a wker, but still bought the car. Not really a 'worst test drive EVER'..but it was pretty alarming at the time.
rofl That's how you play is it.

OK, enlighten me, I can't see anything grammatically incorrect.