Do You Know Anybody That Has Killed Another Person?
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Does it count if they hadn't killed when you knew them?
I knew this bloke, Pete Taylor..
http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local-news/pair-l...
He was a security guard at WH Smiths in Reading when worked there as a Saturday boy. Weirdly he was known as Physco Pete as he had a bit of a temper. Nice enough bloke though....
I knew this bloke, Pete Taylor..
http://www.getreading.co.uk/news/local-news/pair-l...
He was a security guard at WH Smiths in Reading when worked there as a Saturday boy. Weirdly he was known as Physco Pete as he had a bit of a temper. Nice enough bloke though....
[quote=wildcat45]Went to school with a really hard kid. Not a bully, just very hard indeed. We sort of hit it off but were never mates. He'd always be the first to dish out a beating to someone who was bullying a smaller kid. Teachers were scared of him as even at 12 he had a presence.
A couple of years later - I think he'd been expelled from our school by then - he was on the telly and in the papers for kicking a bloke to death.
I just Googled the guy. No mention of the story above online, but what I did find whas that he got out and is now back inside for kiling his gay lover.
A couple of years later - I think he'd been expelled from our school by then - he was on the telly and in the papers for kicking a bloke to death.
I just Googled the guy. No mention of the story above online, but what I did find whas that he got out and is now back inside for kiling his gay lover.
Not a killer, but I went to school with this lad http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/rapist-jailed-for-...
When I heard, it came as no surprise. As a kid he was living on a farm nearby and was properly deranged, and would talk about how he "violated chickens" and forcing rats to eat eachother.
When I heard, it came as no surprise. As a kid he was living on a farm nearby and was properly deranged, and would talk about how he "violated chickens" and forcing rats to eat eachother.
As a kid I lived next door to a lovely retired couple called Harry and Doris. Harry was a retired publican and prior to that worked for the prison service........as a hangman. He assisted Albert Pierrepoint until Albert retired and then he took over the role of senior hangman. He was a very nice bloke but he never spoke about his work although he talked to my dad about it over a couple of whiskeys once. He kept a diary of all his hangings and always wore a bow tie at executions out of respect for the condemned person. There is an interesting Wikipedia article on him as well as a book. Look up Harry Allen.
I dated a woman after my divorce who told me that her father had spent time inside for killing a man who was having an affair with the woman he was having an affair with! Strange but true.......never met the bloke and not sure I would like to.
Was also introduced to the woman who killed her husband and buried him under the patio which then became a storyline in "Brookside" all those years ago. She lived in Stevenage and her son was at college with my best mate and that's how we met. She was a lovely unassuming woman and you wouldn't think she would have been capable of doing such a thing but years of domestic abuse finally took its toll.
I dated a woman after my divorce who told me that her father had spent time inside for killing a man who was having an affair with the woman he was having an affair with! Strange but true.......never met the bloke and not sure I would like to.
Was also introduced to the woman who killed her husband and buried him under the patio which then became a storyline in "Brookside" all those years ago. She lived in Stevenage and her son was at college with my best mate and that's how we met. She was a lovely unassuming woman and you wouldn't think she would have been capable of doing such a thing but years of domestic abuse finally took its toll.
An ex customer of mine...who appeared a very nice lady...just tipped over the edge I guess.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-137980...
Edited by Phil Dicky on Friday 23 August 14:59
omgus said:
TackleburyUk said:
I went to school with a bird called Sharon Carr.
She was of African decent and was a particularly weird girl. To be fair nice enough to me as i fed her the odd ciggie.
One day at school she stabbed a girl i grew up with in the back with a pen knife...
Got expelled and a few years later she was locked away as it transpired she has stabbed to death a poor lass called Katie Radcliff near my parents house....
She used to have a habit of walking up to the lads and grabbing our balls.....
Scary now i think about it!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/i-was-b...
Another Collingwood troublemaker here She was of African decent and was a particularly weird girl. To be fair nice enough to me as i fed her the odd ciggie.
One day at school she stabbed a girl i grew up with in the back with a pen knife...
Got expelled and a few years later she was locked away as it transpired she has stabbed to death a poor lass called Katie Radcliff near my parents house....
She used to have a habit of walking up to the lads and grabbing our balls.....
Scary now i think about it!
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/i-was-b...
I was in the year below, she used to steal snacks for my lunch if i was hungry and i never had any issues with her, she even once kept a few of the upper school from nicking my last 80p to go to the snack van, but i was scared of her. Then one day she stabbed a girl in my year in the back and over the next couple of years this all came out.
Judging by these stories, out of 10 of my friends one must of committed a murder but has not been found out yet!!!
Guy I went to school with (year below) got into a fight on the way home from the pub in ewell (must be 15 years back now), ended up hitting a guy with a fire extinguisher and went down for that. Seen him out and about since then so must of got away with a manslaughter charge. He was always one of the troublsome kids, dodgy background.
Guy I went to school with (year below) got into a fight on the way home from the pub in ewell (must be 15 years back now), ended up hitting a guy with a fire extinguisher and went down for that. Seen him out and about since then so must of got away with a manslaughter charge. He was always one of the troublsome kids, dodgy background.
Phil Dicky said:
An ex customer of mine...who appeared a very nice lady...just tipped over the edge I guess.... http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-surrey-137980...
Bizarrely I was just going to post about her as well.Edited by Phil Dicky on Friday 23 August 14:59
He was a mad Ferrari fan and had a 355. They were both on a Ferrari Owners Club European trip I went on with my Dad years ago.
They didn't spend much time together when they got to whatever hotel we were staying at each night. He would go to the bar and she would chain smoke outside. We nicknamed her Fag Ash Lil.
He was subsequently prosecuted for insurance fraud after he smashed his 355 up at Spa and after finding out his wife hadn't sorted out the trackday cover for him as asked brought the car home, put it in a ditch and claimed he had just crashed.
Edited by Davey S2 on Friday 23 August 16:31
Steve in Stoke said:
Not a killer, but I went to school with this lad http://www.lep.co.uk/news/local/rapist-jailed-for-...
When I heard, it came as no surprise. As a kid he was living on a farm nearby and was properly deranged, and would talk about how he "violated chickens" and forcing rats to eat eachother.
He will be out in 5 years if he keeps his nose clean.When I heard, it came as no surprise. As a kid he was living on a farm nearby and was properly deranged, and would talk about how he "violated chickens" and forcing rats to eat eachother.
The article says "It involved particularly nasty and cynical crimes up to and including the most severe of sexual offences committed against children and young persons."
What the hell has become of the legal system when someone like this can be out in 5 years? Lets hope the guys in there hear of his crimes and make life 'comfy' for him..
NinjaPower said:
I completed a really lengthy and detailed Psychometric test at work a few months ago, and the outcome was, as jokingly pointed out by the course tutor was that I was essentially a mild psychopath.
I'm an extremely logical person who finds emotions a waste of time and effort. I rarely get upset by people dying or having to attend funerals etc.
In the same vain I can easily watch videos of people being killed without it bothering me. I must stress though that I don't go looking for them as I don't really have a morbid desire to see that kind of thing, but when I do see it, I just think 'meh'.
Bizarre
Not so much. Thing is human nature isn't binary - as much as society tries to paint things as all black and white, the reality is mostly it's a grey scale.I'm an extremely logical person who finds emotions a waste of time and effort. I rarely get upset by people dying or having to attend funerals etc.
In the same vain I can easily watch videos of people being killed without it bothering me. I must stress though that I don't go looking for them as I don't really have a morbid desire to see that kind of thing, but when I do see it, I just think 'meh'.
Bizarre
Or a bell curve. With the extremes at either side, small numbers, for simplicities sake say Mother Teresas on the one side, Ted Bundys on the other.
Most are going to be the grey middle, some will be a little bit Hannibal Lector...
Seriously the grifter who cons the little old lady out her life savings, and laughs as he drinks her money isn't raising a body count, but it still takes a sociopathic nature with little conscience.
Not saying you're a bad person - far from it - I can imagine that perspective you describe will confer advantages - but too much of anything is generally a bad thing.
As part of my work I come across these people all the time. Some are accidents others are intentional. I take the view that it is what it is. My fathers best friend used to run a funeral parlour when I was a teenager so bodies etc are nothing new to me.
Death is merely another part of life. Never nice when it happens to someone you know or love. Some people make mistakes and others die which is very sad for all involved others just dont care and are totally emotionally detached from the concept of death.
Had a long chat with someone once a really nice bloke who got ten years for killing someone in a bar fight. Chap took a swing at him he swung back guy went down smacked his head and died. Guy I was chatting with felt he had not got a long enough sentence and was clearly going to carry it with him his whole life.
Have met others who found killing someone amusing.
Death is merely another part of life. Never nice when it happens to someone you know or love. Some people make mistakes and others die which is very sad for all involved others just dont care and are totally emotionally detached from the concept of death.
Had a long chat with someone once a really nice bloke who got ten years for killing someone in a bar fight. Chap took a swing at him he swung back guy went down smacked his head and died. Guy I was chatting with felt he had not got a long enough sentence and was clearly going to carry it with him his whole life.
Have met others who found killing someone amusing.
Three actually:
1. A good mate hit a young boy cycling home from school. Affected my mate very badly, it wasn't and his fault, no charges etc but he has to live with what happened and trying CPR on a 12yo
2. A South African ex-debt collector I worked with at Sellafield did time in Joburg for getting carried away on the job and beating a guy to death. Was on record so I know it's true, guy likes to talk about it tbh, but of a dick
3. A mate of a mate did time for killing his wife. Pushed her down the stairs during an argument. Lovely chap.
1. A good mate hit a young boy cycling home from school. Affected my mate very badly, it wasn't and his fault, no charges etc but he has to live with what happened and trying CPR on a 12yo
2. A South African ex-debt collector I worked with at Sellafield did time in Joburg for getting carried away on the job and beating a guy to death. Was on record so I know it's true, guy likes to talk about it tbh, but of a dick
3. A mate of a mate did time for killing his wife. Pushed her down the stairs during an argument. Lovely chap.
staceyb said:
Yup a lad got transferred into our class in year 10 from another school. He had just been aquitted of manslaughter.
Turned out he ha been bullied by the same lad since nursery school and he had tried the whole talking and dealing with it through the school and teachers and it lasted until year9 and he snapped and turned around punched the guy once on the side of his head and he died.
I could have been in the same position, when I was 13 I was bullied by a kid 2 years older and a lot bigger for months, I just put up with it until one day I was walking home with a mate and he came up behind me kicking my ankle trying to trip me over , on the 3rd time I turned round and punched him straight in the face.Turned out he ha been bullied by the same lad since nursery school and he had tried the whole talking and dealing with it through the school and teachers and it lasted until year9 and he snapped and turned around punched the guy once on the side of his head and he died.
It was that quick it caught him by surprise and he fell back into a hedge where I completely lost it , I managed to get on top of him and land a good few blows which left blood all over his face before my mate pulled me off.
He ran away and never came near me again, I can see how a situation like that can escalate if weapons are to hand
BJG1 said:
My ex-girlfriend's brother spent time for causing death by dangerous dangerous driving. When I met her he was in prison and I didn't judge him at all for what had happened - I've always maintained it's the same crime as dangerous driving (his passenger died) and he was unlucky to be in prison.
Turns out he'd written off 7 cars before the accident and was a complete prick. Like genuinely the most unpleasant, rude, selfish person I've ever had the displeasure to meet.
Within a couple of months of getting out of prison he was behind a wheel (no licence or insurance) driving back from the pub when he was barely able to walk.
Left me in a very difficult situation (and my girlfriend, who hated him). My head told me that I had a moral duty to phone the police and report him, ensuring he went back to prison and didn't kill anyone else. Unfortunately we both knew it would absolutely destroy her Mum if he were to go back into prison, not just that she'd be upset, but that she literally wouldn't be able to cope mentally at all, at best I think she'd have had a full-scale breakdown, at worst, well...
Luckily he hasn't had another accident (well, I don't know about now, haven't seen the family for a year) but I don't know how I'd have lived with myself if he had.
My old post, not sure why I didn't mention 2 more. My Grandad killed a pedestrian. Hit him whilst on his motorbike long before I was born. He never talks about it and nor does anyone else - in fact. It's so unmentioned I might even be wrong, I heard about it when I was very young and I've never asked anyone about it since.Turns out he'd written off 7 cars before the accident and was a complete prick. Like genuinely the most unpleasant, rude, selfish person I've ever had the displeasure to meet.
Within a couple of months of getting out of prison he was behind a wheel (no licence or insurance) driving back from the pub when he was barely able to walk.
Left me in a very difficult situation (and my girlfriend, who hated him). My head told me that I had a moral duty to phone the police and report him, ensuring he went back to prison and didn't kill anyone else. Unfortunately we both knew it would absolutely destroy her Mum if he were to go back into prison, not just that she'd be upset, but that she literally wouldn't be able to cope mentally at all, at best I think she'd have had a full-scale breakdown, at worst, well...
Luckily he hasn't had another accident (well, I don't know about now, haven't seen the family for a year) but I don't know how I'd have lived with myself if he had.
I also went to school with a girl who stabbed her boyfriend. He came home drunk, held a knife to her crying baby and said it had better shut the f
k up or he would stab it. Some sort of fight ensued and she ended up stabbing him. Released without charge in the end: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2067654/Wo...Three that I can recall.
1. A lad that I knew from the rave scene got involved with dealing at said events. I heard he and a couple of his mates had gone to do a deal in London which went badly wrong. He ended up stabbing someone and was very badly injured himself and eventually died
2. Several people who I went to school with were involved in the lynching of a police dog handler who eventually died of his injuries. Nobody was prosecuted.
3. The brother of one of my work colleagues served a murder charge for running over a bloke he'd had a fight with at his local pub. Apparently he drove over him three times
1. A lad that I knew from the rave scene got involved with dealing at said events. I heard he and a couple of his mates had gone to do a deal in London which went badly wrong. He ended up stabbing someone and was very badly injured himself and eventually died
2. Several people who I went to school with were involved in the lynching of a police dog handler who eventually died of his injuries. Nobody was prosecuted.
3. The brother of one of my work colleagues served a murder charge for running over a bloke he'd had a fight with at his local pub. Apparently he drove over him three times
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