Do You Know Anybody That Has Killed Another Person?
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Buster73 said:
Went to school many years ago , in our class was a very unlikeable character who I did my best to avoid.
He ended up serving his apprenticeship with my then future FIL , who found him a very unlikeable character , but even worse when he had drink inside him.
The story was that he had a being win at the bookies and flew off to Spain to celebrate , this ended up with a taxi driver being killed by the lad from school.
He got off with the murder charge on the grounds of self defence , but when he got back home he took pleasure in telling folk the taxi driver got what he deserved.
I had the misfortune to bump into this chap about ten years , where he greeted me like a long lost friend , I just replied that he must have made a mistake and. I didn't know him.
The relative of the Dryden chap previously mentioned must be from up in the NE , he might be aware of this case .
Indeed it does, I can't place how I know/have heard of this but its definitely ringing bells and Ive definitely heard it before.He ended up serving his apprenticeship with my then future FIL , who found him a very unlikeable character , but even worse when he had drink inside him.
The story was that he had a being win at the bookies and flew off to Spain to celebrate , this ended up with a taxi driver being killed by the lad from school.
He got off with the murder charge on the grounds of self defence , but when he got back home he took pleasure in telling folk the taxi driver got what he deserved.
I had the misfortune to bump into this chap about ten years , where he greeted me like a long lost friend , I just replied that he must have made a mistake and. I didn't know him.
The relative of the Dryden chap previously mentioned must be from up in the NE , he might be aware of this case .
Jim, a fiend of mine for many years, came home during the afternoon and found his next door neighbour burgling his house. Jim was 17 at the time,. the neighbour had tied up Jims mother and was going through the house.
Jim and I used to spar together in Hackney at this time and he knew how to take care of himself, he pushed the neighbour into a wall, he bounced off it, Jim reached behind him and grabbed the first thing he could find, it was an iron. Smacked it into his head and the bloke didnt get up again.
Jim did 6 years and was a changed man, for the better, when he came out.
Jim and I used to spar together in Hackney at this time and he knew how to take care of himself, he pushed the neighbour into a wall, he bounced off it, Jim reached behind him and grabbed the first thing he could find, it was an iron. Smacked it into his head and the bloke didnt get up again.
Jim did 6 years and was a changed man, for the better, when he came out.
A group of us who trained together for athletics would meet up after school and walk home together. We went our separate ways when we left school and didn't see much of each other after that. I got a complete shock when the name of one of the lads came up in a prominent murder case. A woman had got him and one other to kill her husband for her. I would never have thought him capable of such a thing and and, over 20 years later, I still have no idea why he did it. He just didn't seem the type
He did his time though and the last I heard was happily married and holding down a job in IT. Local legend has it he didn't tell his firm about his conviction and it only came out when they wanted him to travel to the US and he had to confess why he couldn't.
He did his time though and the last I heard was happily married and holding down a job in IT. Local legend has it he didn't tell his firm about his conviction and it only came out when they wanted him to travel to the US and he had to confess why he couldn't.
A family friend worked in a British Army Intelligence unit in Northern Ireland in the late 80's. He doesn't talk much about what he had to do out there, but later went on to infiltrate the BNP, C18 and various other groups in a civilian capacity...scary bloke.
And a good friend of mine from school battered a woman to death with a house brick. He'd been trying to get help for his mental health in the months running up to the murder, even going so far as to crash his car into the front of a bank and telling plod he needed help or he was going to hurt someone. Tragically no help was given and he's now in Broadmoor and unlikely to ever come out.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7103700.s...
The judge who sentenced him said "You show no regret, no remorse, not a shred of emotion. There can be no doubt that you pose a very serious danger to the public.
"Whether you will ever be safe to release is a matter for serious conjecture."
And a good friend of mine from school battered a woman to death with a house brick. He'd been trying to get help for his mental health in the months running up to the murder, even going so far as to crash his car into the front of a bank and telling plod he needed help or he was going to hurt someone. Tragically no help was given and he's now in Broadmoor and unlikely to ever come out.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/devon/7103700.s...
The judge who sentenced him said "You show no regret, no remorse, not a shred of emotion. There can be no doubt that you pose a very serious danger to the public.
"Whether you will ever be safe to release is a matter for serious conjecture."
Edited by Jonmx on Sunday 14th May 17:21
alorotom said:
That actually reminded me, years ago when I was qualifiying and working in a factory, one head case who had worked there all his life started a brawl with me on the factory floor over some innocuous reason and general dislike of me, he was proper nuts and a Seaburn Casual at the time, he said it wasn't over blah blah ... I left a couple mths later and heard a couple of years later he had glassed someone in a local pub and then knifed them ... got about 24 years if I remember right ... crazy b
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Whatever happened to the Seaburn Casuals?dI remember once, years ago, being in Spoons in town and getting chatting to someone I knew from work. He told me that one of his mates had taken a dislike to one of my mates and only he was standing between his mate kicking my mate in... apparently, his mate was a 'Seaburn Casual'.
I'd heard of them before, but I've no idea what they were about... if they were a real thing... or anything?
Boring_Chris said:
Whatever happened to the Seaburn Casuals?
I remember once, years ago, being in Spoons in town and getting chatting to someone I knew from work. He told me that one of his mates had taken a dislike to one of my mates and only he was standing between his mate kicking my mate in... apparently, his mate was a 'Seaburn Casual'.
I'd heard of them before, but I've no idea what they were about... if they were a real thing... or anything?
Definitely a real thing but it's only quite a small core of head-cases! I remember once, years ago, being in Spoons in town and getting chatting to someone I knew from work. He told me that one of his mates had taken a dislike to one of my mates and only he was standing between his mate kicking my mate in... apparently, his mate was a 'Seaburn Casual'.
I'd heard of them before, but I've no idea what they were about... if they were a real thing... or anything?
Lots of people claimed to be 'casuals' but never really were, they were just fighting fodder
They do still exist in a smaller way and are still as bat-s
t crazy as ever but most of the violence between Sunderland / Newcastle / Boro has subsided, the building of the new stadium helped shift some of the 'wild men of roker' out and brought in families ... times move on and this current generation will probably be the end of them altogether I would imagineI worked with a guy from South Africa some years back.
I asked him why he moved over here and he told me that two blokes tried to break into his house one night with his family inside. He looked me straight in the eye and calmly told me he shot both of them dead. With his family under threat it was kill or possibly be killed.
Shortly after they emigrated to the UK.
I asked him why he moved over here and he told me that two blokes tried to break into his house one night with his family inside. He looked me straight in the eye and calmly told me he shot both of them dead. With his family under threat it was kill or possibly be killed.
Shortly after they emigrated to the UK.
My old manager had served time for manslaughter ,ran over a car parked in a laybye with a truck .
It contained his then wife and her lover .
His second wife caught him doing the naughty with a woman at work and stabbed him in the ass with a carving knife .
Was like the running order for J Kyle working at that place .
It contained his then wife and her lover .
His second wife caught him doing the naughty with a woman at work and stabbed him in the ass with a carving knife .
Was like the running order for J Kyle working at that place .
alorotom said:
Definitely a real thing but it's only quite a small core of head-cases!
Lots of people claimed to be 'casuals' but never really were, they were just fighting fodder
They do still exist in a smaller way and are still as bat-st crazy as ever but most of the violence between Sunderland / Newcastle / Boro has subsided, the building of the new stadium helped shift some of the 'wild men of roker' out and brought in families ... times move on and this current generation will probably be the end of them altogether I would imagine
I used to live next door to a high ranked Policeman who was in charge at Roker Park , he told me once about the SC's .Lots of people claimed to be 'casuals' but never really were, they were just fighting fodder
They do still exist in a smaller way and are still as bat-s
t crazy as ever but most of the violence between Sunderland / Newcastle / Boro has subsided, the building of the new stadium helped shift some of the 'wild men of roker' out and brought in families ... times move on and this current generation will probably be the end of them altogether I would imagineThey knew who they were , were they worked , who they associated with.
They knew where they sat in Roker wing main stand , and at RP they never stepped out of line during the match , outside and especially away was a different matter apparently .
I'm sure he told me they got locked up for arranging a fight with another firm about 50 miles from where they were playing.
Gen dit.
I know a chap (not seen him for a few years) who has dual UK/Israeli nationality. He did his usual time in the IDF in the 90s & was involved in the heavy fighting during the intatada. Has many stories of shooting women & children on orders from junior officers of certain political leanings. He deserted the first chance he got & came back to UK. It affected him but found his peace with it.
I know a chap (not seen him for a few years) who has dual UK/Israeli nationality. He did his usual time in the IDF in the 90s & was involved in the heavy fighting during the intatada. Has many stories of shooting women & children on orders from junior officers of certain political leanings. He deserted the first chance he got & came back to UK. It affected him but found his peace with it.
Jonmx said:
A family friend worked in a British Army Intelligence unit in Northern Ireland in the late 80's. He doesn't talk much about what he had to do out there, but later went on to infiltrate the BNP, C18 and various other groups in a civilian capacity...scary bloke.
My father had a lot to do with 14 Company when he was there in the early 80's.- I'm still not sure exactly in what capacity as he doesn't talk about it much to this day either, but some of his former colleagues have gone on to similar things after leaving. It's interesting to read the "walt" thread - from the few people that he worked with that I have met as a kid and in later years that were in one of the special forces, none of of them ever mention it, and besides their physique, there is nothing obvious that they are ex SAS - all very unassuming guys.
Robbo 27 said:
Jim, a fiend of mine for many years, came home during the afternoon and found his next door neighbour burgling his house. Jim was 17 at the time,. the neighbour had tied up Jims mother and was going through the house.
Jim and I used to spar together in Hackney at this time and he knew how to take care of himself, he pushed the neighbour into a wall, he bounced off it, Jim reached behind him and grabbed the first thing he could find, it was an iron. Smacked it into his head and the bloke didnt get up again.
Jim did 6 years and was a changed man, for the better, when he came out.
If 'he knew how to take care of himself', why did he pick an iron up & hit him with it?Jim and I used to spar together in Hackney at this time and he knew how to take care of himself, he pushed the neighbour into a wall, he bounced off it, Jim reached behind him and grabbed the first thing he could find, it was an iron. Smacked it into his head and the bloke didnt get up again.
Jim did 6 years and was a changed man, for the better, when he came out.
Worked with a guy at Greater Manchester Police who killed a pedestrian who stumbled out drunk in front of his car, he was a dick really but I think that incident didnt help.
Another one turned out to be a paedo, dead religious and very anti gay, turned out he had interfered with a young lad some years back, hypocrite ! cae in to find all his stuff being taken away in evidence bags, sentenced to 4 years in prison.
Another one turned out to be a paedo, dead religious and very anti gay, turned out he had interfered with a young lad some years back, hypocrite ! cae in to find all his stuff being taken away in evidence bags, sentenced to 4 years in prison.
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