Do You Know Anybody That Has Killed Another Person?

[anonymous-user]

Kiddy who was in my class at School, very bright but quiet lad, read some years later in the local Echo that he'd stabbed his Gran, cut her head off with a bread knife, set fire to her house and then sat on the front lawn with her head in front of him waiting for the Police and Fire Brigade to turn up!

[SJobson]

I know the chap who did this: Deborah Kerr's brother killed in road rage incident clicky. He's a nice chap, ex-boxer, known as 'Butch' (since well before Pulp Fiction), did handyman jobs for my parents. Wouldn't hurt a fly, and looked quite a bit older than 55 even at the time. He said that he punched the chap in self-defence; the victim unfortunately hit his head on the kerb as he fell and that's what killed him. Clearly the CPS were satisfied there was no intent to kill, hence the manslaugher plea being accepted.

Butch can't have served long for the crime - I saw him across the road a few weeks ago - but he's quiet now.

Edited by SJobson on Thursday 11th February 10:05

[Lastinclass]

Weird, didn't really realise I knew anyone who had until I read this!

One a bloke I used to play in the same football team as - got involved in a late night fight. Was convicted on the evidence of the markings on the victims forehead matching the print from the sole of his shoe.

Another bloke I worked with - pay day, pissed up driving home with another bloke I worked with. Knocked down a couple of telegraph poles with the passengers side of his car.

[ali_kat]

Justayellowbadge said:

ali_kat said:

A male friend killed a female friend because she & her husband announced they were emigrating. He was happy to worship from afar, but not that far

I was also the witness for the prosecution against him

Indeed, there's more, but I need to be drunk to tell the rest

I should say alleged there BTW, he was acquitted at the 2nd trial from new evidence, 1st was hung jury; I was someone that was very sure he couldn't have done it right up until I read the transcripts and talked to CID I know from the Station involved...

[Justayellowbadge]

ali_kat said:

Justayellowbadge said:

ali_kat said:

A male friend killed a female friend because she & her husband announced they were emigrating. He was happy to worship from afar, but not that far

I was also the witness for the prosecution against him

Indeed, there's more, but I need to be drunk to tell the rest

I should say alleged there BTW, he was acquitted at the 2nd trial from new evidence, 1st was hung jury; I was someone that was very sure he couldn't have done it right up until I read the transcripts and talked to CID I know from the Station involved...

How's the husband doing? I can't imagine what he went through.

[Lastinclass]

ali_kat said:

Justayellowbadge said:

ali_kat said:

A male friend killed a female friend because she & her husband announced they were emigrating. He was happy to worship from afar, but not that far

I was also the witness for the prosecution against him

Indeed, there's more, but I need to be drunk to tell the rest

I should say alleged there BTW, he was acquitted at the 2nd trial from new evidence, 1st was hung jury; I was someone that was very sure he couldn't have done it right up until I read the transcripts and talked to CID I know from the Station involved...

fking Hell.... I thought it was bad going to employment tribunal to explain I had sacked someone because they were no good at the job, not down to sex, race etc!!
That must have been awful!

[tuscaneer]

andy400 said:

109 Bob said:

We were talking one day & the subject of Americans came up, (can't remember what we were talking about exactly) when he calmly said, "Americans, I had to shoot two of them once" I replied half heartedly,"you do know they were on our side don't you?" "er yes" he said "but when I was in Italy me & my commanding officer heard muffled cries coming from a cellar, when we got in there we found two American GIs rapping an Italian girl" me being a bit slow said " oh yeah, what happened?" He calmly replied "well I shot them".

I acknowledge the seriousness of the topic, and I don't normally join the spelling police, but that did make me

Visions of a WW2 gangsta rap scenario....

Or was it some kind of kinky spanking session.....




Sorry.

HA!.... i`ve got an image in my head of the start of that song by sum 41 where the band are in a convenience store doing an accapella rap for the attendant....except it`s in a basement in france in 1942

[WorAl]

Quaint said:

Kit80 said:

HereBeMonsters said:

AJS- said:

words.

Very interesting story, thanks for sharing.

Agreed. Quite chilling really.

Yes; although rage does funny things to people. I recognise the dissociative effects he mentioned from an indicent in my youth - I was 17, and lost my temper badly with a guy at school who'd bullied me for most of the past 3 years. It's an extremely strange feeling, like being a passenger in your own head, watching some other part of you operate your limbs. This dissociation doesn't make the "what have I done?" agonising afterwards any easier though, IME.

Oh - and on topic: no; my grandfathers and various friends have, but always while in the uniformed employ of the Crown.

Edited by Quaint on Thursday 11th February 09:51

Can also relate to that, losing my head with a lad in my street who was about 7 years older than me (a lot when you are 8 years old) he did nothing but bully people in the street. It built up that much that one day I just lost it and had no control over myself, I went back home and grabbed the filleting knife from the kitchen, luckily my mother was in to stop me going back out, she had to drag me back in the house, wrestle me to the floor, take the knife off me and sit on me until I had calmed down.

His mother was informed and she told him, he thought it was funny. He has no idea how close he was to being carved up.

[Deva Link]

I don't know him, but I saw former EastEnders actor Leslie Grantham at a book signing at Costco in Chester. I wanted to shout "murderer" at him but no-one was buying his book or even talking to him and being reduced to book-signing at Costco must be terribly sad.

[Dan_1981]

A very close friends of mine did 4 years for killing his best friend in a drink drive accident.

Yes it changed my view of him massivly.

We still speak but i wouildn't say we were particularly close any more.

I'm not sure what changed him most prison or the knowledge that he'd killed his best friend and almost his partner by being stupid.

[Morningside]

Yes, but not something to discuss on a public forum.

Also my very good school mate turned out to be a Pedophile (sp?). When the reality came out of what he had done to his two step-children it was beyond comprehension. There was no indication of this at all. Spend a number of years in prison for this and now (thankfully) moved to the other side of the country.

Frighteningly at the same time three other people that I knew turn out the same way.

[mel]

I had to laugh one afternoon when one of the guys that works for me asked to finish a couple of hours early, the exact quote was "can I get away at 3 please? I've got to pick a budgie up for a lifer" I looked confused and said "a what" it paned out that his mate had beaten his wife (his mates wife not his) to death and was doing life in Shepway, he was being transfered but had to re earn privalidges to have a budgie so he was going to collect the bird look after it for a couple of months then let him have it back at the new prison, he swore blind the bloke was a really nice guy!

[Neil H]

AJS- said:

He had come back early from working on a ship and found his wife in bed with another man, and in a blind rage had beaten them both to death.

What really chilled me was how normal and mild mannered he was and yet what violence he had been capable of in a rage. A normal, reasonably intelligent, working man, not a drug addict or a drunk, not a tatoo covered thug with sovereign rings, nor a gun toting yardie with gold teeth.

My own view is that everyone is capable of a crime of passion, given enough motivation. Whether they'd actually carry it through to a double-murder I'm not so sure, but I'd estimate that a significant number of people would under certain circumstances.

[Silent1]

I k ow abloke serving 2 life sentences for killing his ex and her new man.
He poured petrol through the letterbox and set fire to the house thinking they were out on holiday.

[anonymous-user]

When i was 17, a girl I knew and was friends with drove home from a nightclub with her friend, crashed and killed her.

She was a lovely girl, just passed her test and was unfortunatly (and stupidly) wasover the limit. She was done for manslaughter and jailed for 2 years.

[Soovy]

I know a couple of soldiers who have killed. In the Falklands.

One was a sniper, the other in 2 Para.


Neither will discuss it. At all.

[Lastinclass]

I know a guy that was in 2 para - all he will ever say is " I did the job I was being paid to do"

[no1special]

WorAl said:

It If you want to know them maybe a new thread to be set up instead of hijacking this one?

Yes please, Woral?

[militantmandy]

Kit80 said:

HereBeMonsters said:

AJS- said:

words.

Very interesting story, thanks for sharing.

Agreed. Quite chilling really.

Indeed, very interesting reading.

I can only think of two really. The first was the father of a friend of man. Prominent in the UDA in Northen Ireland. Caught his wife sleeping with another man and smashed a breeze block over her heard. The other is the father of a girl I used to see. He'd split from his wife at the time. Apparently he owed some guys serious money for drugs. Said dealer phones him to say "if you don't sort this out i'll be visiting your wife" he goes straight over to the guys house and cuts his throat with a kitchen knife.

It's seriously frightening what people can be capable of.

[stormrider2]

A guy i know crashed his car, killing the passenger, theres many stories to whats happened so im not sure. But i do know the passenger wasnt wearing a seatbelt and was thrown from the car, police couldnt find him at first as he was thrown quite far. The driver didnt get jailed etc as i think it was a genuine accident instead of driving like a tt. I think he's now given up driving as he cant face what happened.