Have you ever fired a gun?

[ErnestM]

Getragdogleg said:

Saddle bum said:

Getragdogleg said:

I am annoyed that i cannot be in a gun club here and shoot hand guns, Properly licenced and monitored is safe, the old adage "outlaw guns and only outlaws have guns" has come home to roost with the ban here, gun crime is up.

It is not the owning of handguns or guns in general that is considered the problem by those who think they control us, it's also the knowledge of how to use them.

Plod at all levels have remarked that the public gaining firearms skills is highly undesirable.

Much harder to have a small revolution if the population is unarmed, they have tried to control "gun Crime" after the nasty business at Hungerford, the public are told through the media that guns are bad mmkay and follow like sheep and now if you mention guns in some circles its like you have asked to rape their first born. The next on the great plan to keep us all subdued is "knife Crime" already we see media reports that it is a raging problem, and normal people who have a swiss army knife in their glovebox are being arrested.

From a pushy control freak Govt. point of view I agree, any kind of arming of the populace is not desirable but I would like the Govt. to be largely controlled by the will of its people, to be representitive of the people.

Banning guns has sent them underground, at least when we were allowed to be in clubs and use them recreationally the Police mostly knew where the guns were.

People shouldn't fear their government, etc...

[AngryApples]

.22/303 in cadets

SA80 in the RN

(in one of the first new entry classes to get hands on them)

[Saddle bum]

Lefty 200 Drams said:

Ooh, is that a jungle carbine I see? Is it really as bad as people say?!

Nah, it's a tart's gun.

[aeropilot]

Lefty 200 Drams said:

goblinslayer said:

My thread has arrived!
Currently own about 40 odd :-)

Some Lee Enfield goodness:

Ooh, is that a jungle carbine I see? Is it really as bad as people say?!

No.....No.5's are real sweethearts to fire, if you been taught how, and it's a good 'un. I was lucky, my late father spent a year with a No.5 by his side in Palestine in 1946, so I was prepared when I got my chance with one, and it was a good one. It's my fav out of the Lee's, although, a sweet running SMLE is pure joy.

My list off the top of my head...but I'll probable miss something

S&W Model 10
S&W Model 586
S&W Model 29
Colt Delta Elite
Colt 1911 .45
Lee-Enfield No.3 SMLE
Lee-Enfield No.4
Lee-Enfield No.4 7.62
Lee-Enfield No.5
STEN Mk2
MP40
Thompson M1A1
Bren LMG

Sawn-off double barrel shotgun

[mike62]

.22 / .303 rifles (marksman with both)
7.62mm SLR
9 mm Browning pistol

all whilst in the ATC (many, many moons ago).

[spanna123]

Only shot a few different 12 and 20 bore shotguns, mainly at Garlands (clay pigeon place). Other times is on my cousins farm shooting at hares as there is too many of them.

Yet to visit US so that could all change.

[Pesty]

aeropilot said:

Colt Delta Elite
Colt 1911 .45

How does the 10mm recoil compare with the .45?

[aeropilot]

Pesty said:

aeropilot said:

Colt Delta Elite
Colt 1911 .45

How does the 10mm recoil compare with the .45?

From dimming memory.....as it's been 20 years since firing the Delta Elite, the 10mm was more vicious. I recall it being harder to double-tap as accurately as with the .45....but at the time the particular DE I fired was a brand new gun (they hadn't been out that long at the time) and it had only had a few mags through it previously, and it really could have done with a bit of 'smithing on the action tbh.

I've never had the chance to try a .38 Super 1911, which many consider to be the best.

Edited by aeropilot on Monday 24th May 09:59

[goblinslayer]

It flips a bit more than the other Enfields, but it's controllable and quite fun to shoot as it's very light and pointable.
It's pretty accurate out to about 400yds, but after that the foresight is so wide because of the short sight radius it gets harder to use.

Apart from the Enfields in the picture I also have:

.45 1911
.38 Colt Diamondback
.45-110 Sharps
30-06 M1917
.357 Winchester
.32-20 Winchester
.308 Custom Remington 700
.223 Steyr Tactical Elite
7.62 Enfield Enforcer
.303 No4(T)
another SMLE, No.4, No.5
8 or so .22s
7.5x55 Schmidt Rubin
7.62 Parker hale T4
.22 Calico M100

and in the past
9mm Beretta 92
.357 Colt Python
.357 S&W 626
.44 S&W Model 29
.45 Gold Cup
.45 Randall
.44 Desert Eagle
various .22 target pistols

Whereabouts are you? The NRA can probably help find a local club to you, drop them an email..

Lefty 200 Drams said:

goblinslayer said:

My thread has arrived!
Currently own about 40 odd :-)

Some Lee Enfield goodness:

Ooh, is that a jungle carbine I see? Is it really as bad as people say?!

I've got shotfun and fac (but only rf), REALLY must join my local full bore or historic rifle club!

[Cupid Stunt]

No but it's on my bucket list

[philmots]

Yes... allsorts from air rifles to 9mm PPKs to walking stick guns via a mini uzi. But my father's in the trade so that explains it.

[markcjd]

goblinslayer said:

It flips a bit more than the other Enfields, but it's controllable and quite fun to shoot as it's very light and pointable.
It's pretty accurate out to about 400yds, but after that the foresight is so wide because of the short sight radius it gets harder to use.

Apart from the Enfields in the picture I also have:

.45 1911
.38 Colt Diamondback
.45-110 Sharps
30-06 M1917
.357 Winchester
.32-20 Winchester
.308 Custom Remington 700
.223 Steyr Tactical Elite
7.62 Enfield Enforcer
.303 No4(T)
another SMLE, No.4, No.5
8 or so .22s
7.5x55 Schmidt Rubin
7.62 Parker hale T4
.22 Calico M100

and in the past
9mm Beretta 92
.357 Colt Python
.357 S&W 626
.44 S&W Model 29
.45 Gold Cup
.45 Randall
.44 Desert Eagle
various .22 target pistols

Whereabouts are you? The NRA can probably help find a local club to you, drop them an email..

Lefty 200 Drams said:

goblinslayer said:

My thread has arrived!
Currently own about 40 odd :-)

Some Lee Enfield goodness:

Ooh, is that a jungle carbine I see? Is it really as bad as people say?!

I've got shotfun and fac (but only rf), REALLY must join my local full bore or historic rifle club!

[aeropilot]

aeropilot said:

My list off the top of my head...but I'll probable miss something

S&W Model 10
S&W Model 586
S&W Model 29
Colt Delta Elite
Colt 1911 .45
Lee-Enfield No.3 SMLE
Lee-Enfield No.4
Lee-Enfield No.4 7.62
Lee-Enfield No.5
STEN Mk2
MP40
Thompson M1A1
Bren LMG

Sawn-off double barrel shotgun

I knew I would forget a few...

Add....

Uzi 9mm
Martini-Henry .22RF
Ariska Type 02

[Xaero]

soad said:

Xaero said:

emptied a clip from an AK47 into a chicken in Cambodia, man I love that place!

I hear they let you use the machine gun on a cow too for the right price (farmer keeps the meat) over there.

Or just the water barrels...

I heard you can actually get rocket launchers in Vietnam and aim them at cows. I have no idea where one would go for such an activity though or who to ask.

They charged me $5 extra for the chicken, I didn't get to keep it after either.

[DickyC]

On summer camp at RAF Chivenor in Devon with the Air Cadets in the late Sixties we were allowed five rounds with a Lee Enfield .303 rifle in the range at the end of the runways. Blimey they had a kick to them.

There were four cardboard targets in front of each person firing and the order was, "Five rounds in your own time, choose your own target." The lad lying next to me chose tufts of grass on the top of the back wall of the butts. He got three rounds away before anyone realised what he was doing.

He was sent to see the Camp Commandant and put on a train home that morning.

[Quaint]

I did CCF and OTC at school and university so the usual assortment of L85, L86, L98, GPMG etc... The CCF took us to a "weapons acquaint" course at Ash (which probably dates me quite badly) which was absolutely hilarious fun. It was run by an old chap with fantastic white cavalry whiskers, and he presided over a collection of WarPac and NATO weaponry plus a few vintage pieces.

The highlights for me were the AK47 (purely for icon value, I couldn't hit a barn door with it beyond about 100 metres), the M16 (I foudn it very accurate but as someone else posted earlier, it's a bit plasticky and light), the Browning M2 .50-caliber (just... awesome, almost scary to shoot), and my favourite, an old Vickers Gun - water-cooled, canvas belt, proper old-school support weapon.

At school I also did a fair bit of pistol shooting - the master in charge (also one of the chaplains, and a former Para) had a great collection of handguns and a few of us would head over to the range a couple of times a week for some plinking. He had an ancient Webley & Scott .455 revolver which fired bullets so slow that they occasionally bounced off the heavy rubber curtain behind the targets, and came skittering back up the range towards us. He also had a Ruger Blackhawk .44 Mag (loud, comical recoil, audible "CLANG" as the bullet hit the steel stopper plate at the end of the range), an M1911 (lovely - accurate, the perfect size for me to use easily, and all round a splendid thing to shoot), and a pair of S&W .357 Mags whch were my favourites - the perfect combination of wallop and accuracy, and a lot more wieldy than the .44.

I haven't fired a gun since I was 21.

[BruceV8]

Quaint said:

He had an ancient Webley & Scott .455 revolver which fired bullets so slow that they occasionally bounced off the heavy rubber curtain behind the targets, and came skittering back up the range towards us.

The only handgun that I really liked and miss the opportunity to fire. Lovely robust things. The Victorian equivalent of its Statement of User Requirement said that it 'must be able to stop a charging native at fifty paces'. They don't write them like that anymore.

[Quaint]

BruceV8 said:

The only handgun that I really liked and miss the opportunity to fire. Lovely robust things. The Victorian equivalent of its Statement of User Requirement said that it 'must be able to stop a charging native at fifty paces'. They don't write them like that anymore.

I have to confess, un-PC as it is, that we christened it the "Zulu-Stopper"... The bullet, though slow, was a good size; I imagine that it packed quite a wallop.

[ErnestM]

Quaint said:

BruceV8 said:

The only handgun that I really liked and miss the opportunity to fire. Lovely robust things. The Victorian equivalent of its Statement of User Requirement said that it 'must be able to stop a charging native at fifty paces'. They don't write them like that anymore.

I have to confess, un-PC as it is, that we christened it the "Zulu-Stopper"... The bullet, though slow, was a good size; I imagine that it packed quite a wallop.

If you really want to read about the "non-PC-ness" of yore, read about the US Army "stockyard" tests that lead up to the development of the original 1911. It also covers the selection of the .45ACP as the round of choice (which was based on a CYA lie from the testers)

http://www.sightm1911.com/lib/history/background.h...

[Saddle bum]

For those in the vicinity, there's a gun show on at Bisley this weekend. Friday - Sunday. Free entry.