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yellowjack said:
Do rockets and lots of explosives count?
Giant Viper!!!
The 'old skool' GV in it's box on the trailer, prepared for firing with rockets mounted.
The result...
...although admittedly this is the replacement 'Python' system in use.
Viper video here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHszRV5-bd4
...filmed in BATUS - 'British Army Training Unit, Suffield'. Alberta, Canada. As has been pointed out in the comments below, this is also the more modern (and reliable!) 'Python' in action.
Another video of Python in action, this time in Afghanistan... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmpjjuMczFc
As a qualified GV/Python instructor, I've been involved with four 'live firings' of GV, plus loads with a dummy hose that needs stuffing back into the box in a specific manner afterwards, and is quite frankly the most horrible job I've had to do in peacetime.
I also fired a ZSU 23-4 in Iraq in 1991. We unloaded most of the ammo by hand, dismantling the feed trays as we went along. But it's such a complex feed system, and such a cramped space, that the last of the ammo couldn't be unloaded (we didn't have the manual available to show us how!) so we just "pointed it in a safe direction" and fired what was left. That piece is now at either the Army Air Corps museum at Middle Wallop, or behind the IWM Land Warfare Hall at Duxford, it came back as 'spoils of war', hence us having to unload the fecker instead of just blowing it up in situ.
if rockets count can I add this one.....1 ton of cordite burning in three seconds!Giant Viper!!!
The 'old skool' GV in it's box on the trailer, prepared for firing with rockets mounted.
The result...
...although admittedly this is the replacement 'Python' system in use.
Viper video here...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zHszRV5-bd4
...filmed in BATUS - 'British Army Training Unit, Suffield'. Alberta, Canada. As has been pointed out in the comments below, this is also the more modern (and reliable!) 'Python' in action.
Another video of Python in action, this time in Afghanistan... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmpjjuMczFc
As a qualified GV/Python instructor, I've been involved with four 'live firings' of GV, plus loads with a dummy hose that needs stuffing back into the box in a specific manner afterwards, and is quite frankly the most horrible job I've had to do in peacetime.
I also fired a ZSU 23-4 in Iraq in 1991. We unloaded most of the ammo by hand, dismantling the feed trays as we went along. But it's such a complex feed system, and such a cramped space, that the last of the ammo couldn't be unloaded (we didn't have the manual available to show us how!) so we just "pointed it in a safe direction" and fired what was left. That piece is now at either the Army Air Corps museum at Middle Wallop, or behind the IWM Land Warfare Hall at Duxford, it came back as 'spoils of war', hence us having to unload the fecker instead of just blowing it up in situ.
...and 'YES' -it is upside down -we were doing a static firing and didn't want it to go anywhere. Just to give a sense of scale, look closely and you'll see a full sized flag pole and a double garage in the bottom right hand corner of the pic....
creampuff said:
^ You cannot own semi-automatic centerfire rifles in the UK. You can own stuff that looks like an AK/AR, but it falls into one of two categories:
- .22 rimfire semi-auto which looks like an AK/AR. Semi-auto rimfires are legal. Infact you can even get high capacity magazines and suppressors.
- non-self loading centerfire AK/AR, this means it has to be bolt action but more than that it must be built from scratch like that, so no or greatly reduced gas system and can't be returned to semi-auto. Straight pull rifles seem to be popular, but they still look like an abomination to me. I'd rather just have a rifle which was made from scratch with the intent of being a bolt action.
But an AR straight pull is much quicker rifle to shoot than a bolt action.- .22 rimfire semi-auto which looks like an AK/AR. Semi-auto rimfires are legal. Infact you can even get high capacity magazines and suppressors.
- non-self loading centerfire AK/AR, this means it has to be bolt action but more than that it must be built from scratch like that, so no or greatly reduced gas system and can't be returned to semi-auto. Straight pull rifles seem to be popular, but they still look like an abomination to me. I'd rather just have a rifle which was made from scratch with the intent of being a bolt action.
You can keep finger on trigger, eye to scope whilst reloading. Can't do that very easily with a bolt action.
Fired a .357 Magnum on my uncles ranch in Australia many, many years ago. Unbelievably powerful recoil.
It was out in the the Blue mountains and I saw a bullet shaped hole in his bedroom floor, "Whats that then?" I asked. "Oh I had to shoot a Eastern Brown snake (one of the most dangerous snakes in the world) this morning, I woke up and there she was on the floor". The hole was about 8 foot from his bed.
It was out in the the Blue mountains and I saw a bullet shaped hole in his bedroom floor, "Whats that then?" I asked. "Oh I had to shoot a Eastern Brown snake (one of the most dangerous snakes in the world) this morning, I woke up and there she was on the floor". The hole was about 8 foot from his bed.
creampuff said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Why the legal distinction between centre fire and rim fire?
Which one would you rather be shot in the 'nads with? 
There is obviously a difference but I genuinely don't know why centre fire are more dangerous all other things being equal.
Dr Jekyll said:
creampuff said:
Dr Jekyll said:
Why the legal distinction between centre fire and rim fire?
Which one would you rather be shot in the 'nads with? There is obviously a difference but I genuinely don't know why centre fire are more dangerous all other things being equal.
Generally rim fire is low power. ^ As the present UK gun laws were brought in after a mass shooting, they are intended to reduce access to guns which are capable of rapid fire. Although why the govt didn't ban knives which are used in far more crimes and far more murders is but banned semi-autos is a bit of a mystery to me. Anyway, if I was considering running amok with a rifle, I think I'd be embarrassed to do it with a .22 rimfire.
creampuff said:
Oddly though, you can still get lever action rifles which can fire quite fast.
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creampuff said:
Oddly though, you can still get lever action rifles which can fire quite fast. And you can still get semi-auto shotguns. 9+1 of 12 gauge would certainly give you something to think about if you planned to run amok.
I think semi automatic shotguns have to be limited to 3 rounds.RizzoTheRat said:
creampuff said:
Oddly though, you can still get lever action rifles which can fire quite fast. And you can still get semi-auto shotguns. 9+1 of 12 gauge would certainly give you something to think about if you planned to run amok.
I think semi automatic shotguns have to be limited to 3 rounds.You can have greater capacity than 2+1 but it then becomes a S.1 firearm, so a full FAC is required for ownership.
creampuff said:
Rosscow said:
But an AR straight pull is much quicker rifle to shoot than a bolt action.
You can keep finger on trigger, eye to scope whilst reloading. Can't do that very easily with a bolt action.
Don't you have to take your hand off the grip / finger off trigger to pull it?You can keep finger on trigger, eye to scope whilst reloading. Can't do that very easily with a bolt action.
tumble dryer said:
Rim fire (modern day) generally applies to .22 calibre in its many forms. Centre fire normally refers to all calibres above. And sometimes below just to confuse you further... Generally rim fire is low power.
That explains it, I assumed it just referred to whether the firing pin hits the centre of the cartridge or the rim. Admittedly all the .22 rifles I've fired have been rim fire and all the .303s centre fire. Generally rim fire is low power. Gassing Station | The Lounge | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff