Jury duty, reasons to be excused
Discussion
jamesson said:
On the first day, she should say she knows the defendant. Went to school with him, or something. That might get her excused.
The judge will just excuse her for that trial and she'd be back in the pool kicking her heels.Did my 2-week stint earlier this year and it was a mix of interesting and boring. Got to head home early a few days (Judge had a golf session or somesuch).
I think she should do it rather than the Jeremy Kyle lot but I can understand her reasons for not wanting to do it.
I was called and got exempted because I was being treated for a mental illness(onlydepression and anxiety). To be honest, at the time I could hardly decide what to eat for dinner let alone make judgements about people's freedom. I rang the officer of Juries, or something similar, explained it all and was dismissed - they were more than understanding.
I was called and got exempted because I was being treated for a mental illness(onlydepression and anxiety). To be honest, at the time I could hardly decide what to eat for dinner let alone make judgements about people's freedom. I rang the officer of Juries, or something similar, explained it all and was dismissed - they were more than understanding.
Just a point - the guy who was in charge of the Jurors at the court gave peolpe the chance to talk to him if they really felt they couldn't do the full two-weeks or had any days they really couldn't do.
He then tried to accommodate them - one or two people were sent home as they'd had a very good turn-out. Half of the Jury I was in for the first week (4 day trial) got sent away on Friday and told not to come back.
Even if the central jury service people don't accept her request to be excused then there might be some options presented to her on her first day.
He then tried to accommodate them - one or two people were sent home as they'd had a very good turn-out. Half of the Jury I was in for the first week (4 day trial) got sent away on Friday and told not to come back.
Even if the central jury service people don't accept her request to be excused then there might be some options presented to her on her first day.
The actual guidance on deferral and excusal is here:
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/for...
http://www.nnuh.nhs.uk/TrustDoc.asp?ID=148
I did JS last year. I also have a 'difficult' job to just drop. I do think we have a responsibility to do JS though, for the reasons others have mentioned: otherwise you'll end up with some very skewed juries. I can see exceptions for some of the people on here who are self-employed or running very small businesses, but for workers in large public sector organisations I tend to think the court service should hold the line.
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/for...
Four Cofffee said:
she will have to take unpaid leave and accept the £55 a day for jury duty
What trust does she work for? Some trusts will pay employees their normal salary whilst on JS, such as this one:http://www.nnuh.nhs.uk/TrustDoc.asp?ID=148
I did JS last year. I also have a 'difficult' job to just drop. I do think we have a responsibility to do JS though, for the reasons others have mentioned: otherwise you'll end up with some very skewed juries. I can see exceptions for some of the people on here who are self-employed or running very small businesses, but for workers in large public sector organisations I tend to think the court service should hold the line.
Edited by N Dentressangle on Wednesday 2nd June 10:08
Four Cofffee said:
Anybody know the grounds/excuses not to do it?
My daughter has just got an order for 2 weeks plus jury duty in July. She managed to defer it once before because she was working in Oz but this time they are insisting she goes.
She is a NHS doctor and despite a letter from her hospital saying she is needed and that there is no cover the Jury Service have turned down her request to be excused or defer again. She is a also in the TA and due to deploy to Afghanistan later this year so the hospital can ill aford to lose her for another 2 weeks plus.
She has a right of appeal but I was wondering what the convincing arguments would be?
I know we all have a civic duty etc but it seems nonesense to have the NHS pay locum rates (if they can even find a locum in her area) and her lose pay (she will have to take unpaid leave and accept the £55 a day for jury duty). Personally I think she is doing her bit going to Afghanistan and there must be many others willing and able to carry out this important job without them costing her and the NHS money. God forbid she ends up wih some protracted trial because that wll cut across her deployment training .
I cant see a single valid reason for her not doing her jury service in your post.My daughter has just got an order for 2 weeks plus jury duty in July. She managed to defer it once before because she was working in Oz but this time they are insisting she goes.
She is a NHS doctor and despite a letter from her hospital saying she is needed and that there is no cover the Jury Service have turned down her request to be excused or defer again. She is a also in the TA and due to deploy to Afghanistan later this year so the hospital can ill aford to lose her for another 2 weeks plus.
She has a right of appeal but I was wondering what the convincing arguments would be?
I know we all have a civic duty etc but it seems nonesense to have the NHS pay locum rates (if they can even find a locum in her area) and her lose pay (she will have to take unpaid leave and accept the £55 a day for jury duty). Personally I think she is doing her bit going to Afghanistan and there must be many others willing and able to carry out this important job without them costing her and the NHS money. God forbid she ends up wih some protracted trial because that wll cut across her deployment training .
Most of the advice given in this thread is rubbish, btw, although you probably know that.
Oh, and lying to the judge about 'knowing the defendant' would be a very bad idea, both morally and legally.
Are you sure she wouldnt get paid by her employer? I find that very, very surprising, if she's basically a government employee.
Jury duty is udually two weeks of boredom, where she may pr may not get choosen for a trial. Usually sent home by lunch time though. Sadly, she could be on duty for many months if shes really unlucky.
N Dentressangle said:
The actual guidance on deferral and excusal is here:
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/for...
That's interesting, no mention of the dismissal I got http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/for...
I wonder where I found that information from.
tonyvid said:
N Dentressangle said:
The actual guidance on deferral and excusal is here:
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/for...
That's interesting, no mention of the dismissal I got http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/for...
I wonder where I found that information from.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/RightsA...
Edited by N Dentressangle on Wednesday 2nd June 11:18
Corsair7 said:
hornetrider said:
Corsair7 said:
I cant see a single valid reason for her not doing her jury service in your post.
Well, I can. So there we are.N Dentressangle said:
tonyvid said:
N Dentressangle said:
The actual guidance on deferral and excusal is here:
http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/for...
That's interesting, no mention of the dismissal I got http://www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/for...
I wonder where I found that information from.
http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/DisabledPeople/RightsA...
hornetrider said:
Corsair7 said:
hornetrider said:
Corsair7 said:
I cant see a single valid reason for her not doing her jury service in your post.
Well, I can. So there we are.Perhaps you'd prefer only the unemployed/unemployable do jury service? Not 'busy or important' people?
Carfiends Foolproof* Plan to get out of Jury Service:
1. Walk in wearing a long coat and dark glasses
2. When signing in tell the person behind the desk that it is clear that everyone that gets to court is guilty or the CPS wouldn't of asked for a trial
3. Explain to other people that it is easy to spot the guilty as it is all to do with how close their eyes are together and start a discussion on Phrenology and how we should be given a mold of the defendants head to check if he was destined for a life of crime.
4. 15 minutes later to led out of the door
1. Walk in wearing a long coat and dark glasses
2. When signing in tell the person behind the desk that it is clear that everyone that gets to court is guilty or the CPS wouldn't of asked for a trial
3. Explain to other people that it is easy to spot the guilty as it is all to do with how close their eyes are together and start a discussion on Phrenology and how we should be given a mold of the defendants head to check if he was destined for a life of crime.
4. 15 minutes later to led out of the door
- Not really
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