Jury duty, reasons to be excused
Discussion
I was called up shortly after leg surgery, so phoned them and explained and they deffered it for a couple of months, they then sent a new date a couple of months later, i was still struggling with my leg as had underestimated the recovery time, so called them again, they gave me the choice of doing it at the date they had sent or being permanently excused. Although I wanted to do it, I chose excused as couldn't manage at that time. So I will never get the chance now.
Nolar Dog said:
Cara van Man said:
It's life.
Tough s
t.
Call it what you will.
We all have to do things we don't want to.
Live with it.
Says the man who is constantly fTough s
t.Call it what you will.
We all have to do things we don't want to.
Live with it.
king moaning about the CSA. 
ETA: I'm amazed they let you do it. Claiming to have a criminal record. Or is that more bullsiht?
Edited by Cara van Man on Wednesday 2nd June 12:50
Mobile Chicane said:
Erm, I earn a bit more than £63.12 a day. That's the maximum you can claim.
The Jusry service guidelines and the actual amounts you can claim do rather seem to contradict each other. But even so, just because 'your earn a lot of money' shoudln't be (and isn't) a valid reason to seek to be excused jury service. Its not however fair or even a 'just' system, that I would agree with.Most people serve no more than 2 weeks. You would have to be bloody unlucky to get a case that went on for weeks or months.
If you cant afford to do jury service with this rate of repayment then I would be hopeful that you would be excused the service. If however, you are saying 'I earn significantly more than this therefore that is why I should be excused', then thats not the same, is it?
So how much would you lose out on this rate perday then (roughtly?) Are we talking 200, 300, 400 a day? If so, then you would obviosuly be finacially hit by this, however, if you're earning (NET TAKE HOME) 400 a day then you should be able to cover your outgoings pretty well for a two week loss of earnngs.
Most employers seem to cover this issue (at least, that was my experience on my 2 duties covered by 2 seperate employers).
If your a 'self employed' IT consultant/contractor type, then sorry, no sympathy!!!
Corsair7 said:
If your a 'self employed' IT consultant/contractor type, then sorry, no sympathy!!!
Is there a selection of professions you would deem acceptable to defer jury service in these troubled financial times? If you could just pop them in a yes/no column that would be great, ta.Nolar Dog said:
Cara van Man said:
ETA: I'm amazed they let you do it. Claiming to have a criminal record. Or is that more bullsiht?
I wasn't born with a criminal record. Go figure.Incidentally, how much do you pay to support your child, wise-guy?
Edited by Cara van Man on Wednesday 2nd June 13:27
In my mind I'd rather see people who want to do jury service put themselves forward for it rather than have those who have no sense of civic duty try any means possible to get out of it.
If for any reason I ended up in the dock I'd want people in the jury who were willing rather than those feeling that they were being kept in detention like a naught school child for coming up with a pretty lame excuse.
If for any reason I ended up in the dock I'd want people in the jury who were willing rather than those feeling that they were being kept in detention like a naught school child for coming up with a pretty lame excuse.
Cara van Man said:
Adz The Rat said:
So what happens if you are asked to do jury duty and you simply ignore the letter and dont turn up?
Are you serious?Are you the sort of person who ignores his ASBO to 'see what happens'?
If you dont ask you dont learn.
So, again, what exactly would happen?
A fine? Or more serious?
Adz The Rat said:
Cara van Man said:
Adz The Rat said:
So what happens if you are asked to do jury duty and you simply ignore the letter and dont turn up?
Are you serious?Are you the sort of person who ignores his ASBO to 'see what happens'?
If you dont ask you dont learn.
So, again, what exactly would happen?
A fine? Or more serious?
Adz The Rat said:
Cara van Man said:
Adz The Rat said:
So what happens if you are asked to do jury duty and you simply ignore the letter and dont turn up?
Are you serious?Are you the sort of person who ignores his ASBO to 'see what happens'?
If you dont ask you dont learn.
So, again, what exactly would happen?
A fine? Or more serious?
4F6 said:
She should do it.
I did jury service in February, didn't really want to and had already defered it once. There is a lot of sitting around bored but once you get a case its actually quite interesting to someone who doesn't have a regular involvement with the legal profession. I actually found it to be quite a positive experience.
You do lose money, theres no getting away from that but I balanced that out by the fact that I was at home but 1pm most days and a couple of days didn't even have to attend.
I seem to recall that if the trial is expected to go on longer than the two weeks that you can opt out if it is likely to cause you inconvenience.
Agree with the above.I did jury service in February, didn't really want to and had already defered it once. There is a lot of sitting around bored but once you get a case its actually quite interesting to someone who doesn't have a regular involvement with the legal profession. I actually found it to be quite a positive experience.
You do lose money, theres no getting away from that but I balanced that out by the fact that I was at home but 1pm most days and a couple of days didn't even have to attend.
I seem to recall that if the trial is expected to go on longer than the two weeks that you can opt out if it is likely to cause you inconvenience.
I did it 4 years ago. I initially postponed it die to work commitments, however when I did it it was great and I am pleased that I did. In terms of work, I still got paid for it plus I could do most of my job as the court was 1/2 mile from the office, I had to be there at 10 and it usually finished by 3.30 with at least an hour for lunch. Out of the 10 days I was due to be there over 2 weeks, in week one I was in for 3 days for one trial and same for week 2 for another.
It was quite an honour to do it in a way, many others I have spoken to would love to do it. It's a shame that people feel they need to be compensated for it, it should be viewed as a civic duty rather than a ballache (although I can see the OP's viewpoint to a certain extent).
It would be a shame if 'professionals' are disuaded from doing it for financial reasons. One thing that was noticeable was that many people on the juries were from, shall we say, the 'Jeremy Kyle' view of the world which is something I would hate if I were in the dock and did make me feel uneasy. The cases I had were pretty straightforward and even then some people struggled to get their heads round them.
Everyone can come up with a good excuse not to do it, and if they accepted them all there would be no jury.
My wife got called up, was a right PITA having to arrange childcare, cost is one thing, they wont pay for it, but the much bigger issue is where to go for it?
We are luck enough that my wife doesn't work and we chose that she stays home and looks after the kids, so how and where do you all of a sudden put them for 2 weeks?
I ended up having to have some time off to look after them.
My wife got called up, was a right PITA having to arrange childcare, cost is one thing, they wont pay for it, but the much bigger issue is where to go for it?
We are luck enough that my wife doesn't work and we chose that she stays home and looks after the kids, so how and where do you all of a sudden put them for 2 weeks?
I ended up having to have some time off to look after them.
Cara van Man said:
Nolar Dog said:
Cara van Man said:
It's life.
Tough st.
Call it what you will.
We all have to do things we don't want to.
Live with it.
Says the man who is constantly fTough s
t.Call it what you will.
We all have to do things we don't want to.
Live with it.
king moaning about the CSA. ETA: I'm amazed they let you do it. Claiming to have a criminal record. Or is that more bullsiht?
Edited by Cara van Man on Wednesday 2nd June 12:50
Rocksteadyeddie said:
4 hours! 4 hours this post has been up. And we're on page 2 / halfway down page one / near the top of page 1 (delete as appropriate).
Daughter. 22. Years. Old.
And not a single request for pics / is she fit comment.
I'm appalled.
Whatever happened to standards?
she's an NHS doctor. I've never seen a fit one yet!Daughter. 22. Years. Old.
And not a single request for pics / is she fit comment.
I'm appalled.
Whatever happened to standards?
soxboy said:
.....It would be a shame if 'professionals' are disuaded from doing it for financial reasons. One thing that was noticeable was that many people on the juries were from, shall we say, the 'Jeremy Kyle' view of the world which is something I would hate if I were in the dock and did make me feel uneasy. The cases I had were pretty straightforward and even then some people struggled to get their heads round them.
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