Jury duty, reasons to be excused

Jury duty, reasons to be excused

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ewenm

28,506 posts

246 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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elster said:
Pothole said:
she's an NHS doctor. I've never seen a fit one yet!
The girl I went out with for a short time at school is a doctor.

She was pretty sexy then, she is now unbelievably hot!
Pothole is definitely looking in the wrong places...

elster

17,517 posts

211 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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ewenm said:
elster said:
Pothole said:
she's an NHS doctor. I've never seen a fit one yet!
The girl I went out with for a short time at school is a doctor.

She was pretty sexy then, she is now unbelievably hot!
Pothole is definitely looking in the wrong places...
Indeed, I have spent enough time checking out the medical staff employed by the NHS, there may be a lot of cases of NHS arse. However there are a lot of people that are pleasing on the eye.

Neil H

15,323 posts

252 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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anonymous said:
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Exactly.

I just checked my employers policy on this and they will pay you as normal, minus the loss of earnings compensation paid by the court. I imagine most will be similar.

Seems pretty fair, and if you're self-employed you should be covering yourself against this, and other eventualities for loss of earnings, via insurance.

wildcat45

8,076 posts

190 months

Wednesday 2nd June 2010
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Got the call a few years back.

Rang them and told them that because of my job, I knew a lot of local cops - and naughty boys too. I also drank in a particular pub (Which I named) where the defence teams hang out during lunchtime recess and at the end of the day. Mentioned the names of about six defence barristers I regularly had beers with and pointed out that it would be very awkward for me to find a case where I had no connection.

They understood completley - and let me off.

Four Cofffee

Original Poster:

11,800 posts

236 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Thanks for al that advice guys. I agree with the sentimnet about not leting the Jeremey Kyle club make decisions but don't we have anough balanced, decent people left that we don't have to cost the public purse £60 an hour for a locum to cover her job (if they can even find one)?

No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.

Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?

N Dentressangle

3,442 posts

223 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Four Cofffee said:
Thanks for al that advice guys. I agree with the sentimnet about not leting the Jeremey Kyle club make decisions but don't we have anough balanced, decent people left that we don't have to cost the public purse £60 an hour for a locum to cover her job (if they can even find one)?

No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.

Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?
Yes, you do. wink

As others have said though, she'll probably not be needed for the whole two weeks or for the whole of each day. There's a frustrating amount of sitting around!

Did you find out whether her trust covers her salary?

RVIANT

1,273 posts

254 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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James P said:
I deferred Jury Service in May and am due to go back in November. I am a professional piss head in practice and I hope that I will not lose drinking time but the justice system is surely too important to be left to those who cannot or will not get a job.
rofl

Beyond Rational

3,524 posts

216 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Pothole said:
Rocksteadyeddie said:
4 hours! 4 hours this post has been up. And we're on page 2 / halfway down page one / near the top of page 1 (delete as appropriate).

Daughter. 22. Years. Old.

And not a single request for pics / is she fit comment.

I'm appalled.

Whatever happened to standards?

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she's an NHS doctor. I've never seen a fit one yet!
And if she is, she isn't 22.

Superhoop

4,680 posts

194 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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What's with the loss of earnings or BENEFITS bit all about?

The lazy workshy bds get paid to sit on their arse all day watching Jeremy Kyle, and then can claim for loss of benefits?

They're work shy FFS, how exactly do they lose their benefits?

AJS-

15,366 posts

237 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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I quite enjoyed jury duty, and I do think it's a good thing to do if you have the opportunity, and from the sounds of the situation she doesn't have a great reason to avoid it. But that's not really my business, and anyway I'm not so keen on women doing stuff like that so...

If the TA stuff doesn't get her anywhere then tell them she's racist.

Carparticus

1,038 posts

203 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Four Cofffee said:
Anybody know the grounds/excuses not to do it?



Simples …

Point 8 of the list states that members of religious orders can be granted excusals. ( Read it here www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/js_g... )



So all you need to do is get yourself ordained online of course, for the bargain sum of $29.95 :-

http://www.themonastery.org/catalog/



Alternatively, if you took part in the 2001 census and stated that you worship the Church of Jedi, then you can apply to them to begin practicing the faith in your area as they are now a recognised religion …

http://www.jedichurch.org/


If you are found to be lying, then the Force might be with you sooner than you expected .... biglaugh







Four Cofffee

Original Poster:

11,800 posts

236 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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N Dentressangle said:
Four Cofffee said:
Thanks for al that advice guys. I agree with the sentimnet about not leting the Jeremey Kyle club make decisions but don't we have anough balanced, decent people left that we don't have to cost the public purse £60 an hour for a locum to cover her job (if they can even find one)?

No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.

Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?
Yes, you do. wink

As others have said though, she'll probably not be needed for the whole two weeks or for the whole of each day. There's a frustrating amount of sitting around!

Did you find out whether her trust covers her salary?
The trust are a bit upset because they gave her 2 weeks paid leave for TA training (she also took 3 weeks annual leave ) so are suggesting this might have to be unpaid leave although I think she can claim back £55 a day. I thought the law insisted employers paid juror salaries and reclaimed the £55? They seem Ok if things are booked in advance and they can rearrange the rota to cover .

I think the main problem is logistical in that she works in a smallish hospital and is covering consultant lists which at this late notice will mean cancelled appointments unless they can find a locum as they don't have any slack in the rotas at the moment. She alos has a conference day booked and paid for out of her own pocket which will be lost at this late stage.





N Dentressangle

3,442 posts

223 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Four Cofffee said:
N Dentressangle said:
Four Cofffee said:
Thanks for al that advice guys. I agree with the sentimnet about not leting the Jeremey Kyle club make decisions but don't we have anough balanced, decent people left that we don't have to cost the public purse £60 an hour for a locum to cover her job (if they can even find one)?

No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.

Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?
Yes, you do. wink

As others have said though, she'll probably not be needed for the whole two weeks or for the whole of each day. There's a frustrating amount of sitting around!

Did you find out whether her trust covers her salary?
The trust are a bit upset because they gave her 2 weeks paid leave for TA training (she also took 3 weeks annual leave ) so are suggesting this might have to be unpaid leave although I think she can claim back £55 a day. I thought the law insisted employers paid juror salaries and reclaimed the £55? They seem Ok if things are booked in advance and they can rearrange the rota to cover .

I think the main problem is logistical in that she works in a smallish hospital and is covering consultant lists which at this late notice will mean cancelled appointments unless they can find a locum as they don't have any slack in the rotas at the moment. She alos has a conference day booked and paid for out of her own pocket which will be lost at this late stage.
Then I think you've got a reasonable case for deferral. If you set out your two main grounds:

1. TA commitments and time already taken away from work for these
2. Clinics left without cover, meaning cancellations and poorer patient care

then I would have thought you stood a fair chance. You're not daft - emphasise willingness to 'do duty' and reasonable approach and all that, and I reckon she might be OK. Good luck!

Blue160

272 posts

204 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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I've just done two weeks of jury service (finished yesterday)

I'm self employed, so it cost me to do it, but I feel that you have to do it when asked or the system doesn't work. I was at Guildford crown court, and didn't see or have to serve with any 'Jeremy Kyle' types. Met people from a wide cross section of society, and everyone without exception took it seriously.

There was a GP there who could only get cover for one week. She explained this to the court, and they let her off a week early. I've also talked to other musicians (I am one) who have done jury service, and have been excused if a large patch of work has come in during the two weeks. They do try and make things work for you where they can.

Oh, and if you ignore the letter you get a £1000 fine!

TTwiggy

11,548 posts

205 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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I've been lurking on this topic with interest as a similar thread came up on SP&L recently(ish).

I made the mistake of saying on there that I considered it an important civic duty etc etc, only to find myself rounded on by the 'my time is considerably more valuable than yours' brigade.

That some of them were ex-BiB really shocked me.

Glad to see that on here the general feeling is that it is an important thing.

Sgt Bilko

1,929 posts

216 months

Friday 4th June 2010
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Although silly, it is currently the law...

Juries Act 1974 said:
Discretionary deferral

(1)If any person summoned under this Act shows to the satisfaction of the appropriate officer that there is good reason why his attendance in pursuance of the summons should be deferred, the appropriate officer may defer his attendance, and, if he does so, he shall vary the days on which that person is summoned to attend and the summons shall have effect accordingly.

(2)If an application under subsection (1) above has been granted or refused, the powers conferred by that subsection may not be exercised subsequently in relation to the same summons.

(3)Crown Court Rules shall provide a right of appeal to the court (or one of the courts) before which the person is summoned to attend against any refusal of the appropriate officer to defer his attendance under subsection (1) above.

(4)Without prejudice to the preceding provisions of this section, the court (or any of the courts) before which a person is summoned to attend under this Act may defer his attendance.]

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Amendments (Textual)

F1S. 9A inserted by Criminal Justice Act 1988 (c. 33, SIF 39:1), ss. 120, 123(6), Sch. 8 para. 16
Basically (2) says, once only chum.