Jury duty, reasons to be excused
Discussion
ewenm said:
elster said:
Pothole said:
she's an NHS doctor. I've never seen a fit one yet!
The girl I went out with for a short time at school is a doctor.She was pretty sexy then, she is now unbelievably hot!
anonymous said:
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Exactly.I just checked my employers policy on this and they will pay you as normal, minus the loss of earnings compensation paid by the court. I imagine most will be similar.
Seems pretty fair, and if you're self-employed you should be covering yourself against this, and other eventualities for loss of earnings, via insurance.
Got the call a few years back.
Rang them and told them that because of my job, I knew a lot of local cops - and naughty boys too. I also drank in a particular pub (Which I named) where the defence teams hang out during lunchtime recess and at the end of the day. Mentioned the names of about six defence barristers I regularly had beers with and pointed out that it would be very awkward for me to find a case where I had no connection.
They understood completley - and let me off.
Rang them and told them that because of my job, I knew a lot of local cops - and naughty boys too. I also drank in a particular pub (Which I named) where the defence teams hang out during lunchtime recess and at the end of the day. Mentioned the names of about six defence barristers I regularly had beers with and pointed out that it would be very awkward for me to find a case where I had no connection.
They understood completley - and let me off.
Thanks for al that advice guys. I agree with the sentimnet about not leting the Jeremey Kyle club make decisions but don't we have anough balanced, decent people left that we don't have to cost the public purse £60 an hour for a locum to cover her job (if they can even find one)?
No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.
Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?
No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.
Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?
Four Cofffee said:
Thanks for al that advice guys. I agree with the sentimnet about not leting the Jeremey Kyle club make decisions but don't we have anough balanced, decent people left that we don't have to cost the public purse £60 an hour for a locum to cover her job (if they can even find one)?
No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.
Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?
Yes, you do. No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.
Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?
As others have said though, she'll probably not be needed for the whole two weeks or for the whole of each day. There's a frustrating amount of sitting around!
Did you find out whether her trust covers her salary?
Pothole said:
Rocksteadyeddie said:
4 hours! 4 hours this post has been up. And we're on page 2 / halfway down page one / near the top of page 1 (delete as appropriate).
Daughter. 22. Years. Old.
And not a single request for pics / is she fit comment.
I'm appalled.
Whatever happened to standards?
she's an NHS doctor. I've never seen a fit one yet!Daughter. 22. Years. Old.
And not a single request for pics / is she fit comment.
I'm appalled.
Whatever happened to standards?
I quite enjoyed jury duty, and I do think it's a good thing to do if you have the opportunity, and from the sounds of the situation she doesn't have a great reason to avoid it. But that's not really my business, and anyway I'm not so keen on women doing stuff like that so...
If the TA stuff doesn't get her anywhere then tell them she's racist.
If the TA stuff doesn't get her anywhere then tell them she's racist.
Four Cofffee said:
Anybody know the grounds/excuses not to do it?
Simples …
Point 8 of the list states that members of religious orders can be granted excusals. ( Read it here www.hmcourts-service.gov.uk/courtfinder/forms/js_g... )
So all you need to do is get yourself ordained online of course, for the bargain sum of $29.95 :-
http://www.themonastery.org/catalog/
Alternatively, if you took part in the 2001 census and stated that you worship the Church of Jedi, then you can apply to them to begin practicing the faith in your area as they are now a recognised religion …
http://www.jedichurch.org/
If you are found to be lying, then the Force might be with you sooner than you expected ....
N Dentressangle said:
Four Cofffee said:
Thanks for al that advice guys. I agree with the sentimnet about not leting the Jeremey Kyle club make decisions but don't we have anough balanced, decent people left that we don't have to cost the public purse £60 an hour for a locum to cover her job (if they can even find one)?
No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.
Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?
Yes, you do. No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.
Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?
As others have said though, she'll probably not be needed for the whole two weeks or for the whole of each day. There's a frustrating amount of sitting around!
Did you find out whether her trust covers her salary?
I think the main problem is logistical in that she works in a smallish hospital and is covering consultant lists which at this late notice will mean cancelled appointments unless they can find a locum as they don't have any slack in the rotas at the moment. She alos has a conference day booked and paid for out of her own pocket which will be lost at this late stage.
Four Cofffee said:
N Dentressangle said:
Four Cofffee said:
Thanks for al that advice guys. I agree with the sentimnet about not leting the Jeremey Kyle club make decisions but don't we have anough balanced, decent people left that we don't have to cost the public purse £60 an hour for a locum to cover her job (if they can even find one)?
No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.
Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?
Yes, you do. No other member of our family has ever been called, and we are all more available than she is.
Now there's a plan, do you have to take ID?
As others have said though, she'll probably not be needed for the whole two weeks or for the whole of each day. There's a frustrating amount of sitting around!
Did you find out whether her trust covers her salary?
I think the main problem is logistical in that she works in a smallish hospital and is covering consultant lists which at this late notice will mean cancelled appointments unless they can find a locum as they don't have any slack in the rotas at the moment. She alos has a conference day booked and paid for out of her own pocket which will be lost at this late stage.
1. TA commitments and time already taken away from work for these
2. Clinics left without cover, meaning cancellations and poorer patient care
then I would have thought you stood a fair chance. You're not daft - emphasise willingness to 'do duty' and reasonable approach and all that, and I reckon she might be OK. Good luck!
I've just done two weeks of jury service (finished yesterday)
I'm self employed, so it cost me to do it, but I feel that you have to do it when asked or the system doesn't work. I was at Guildford crown court, and didn't see or have to serve with any 'Jeremy Kyle' types. Met people from a wide cross section of society, and everyone without exception took it seriously.
There was a GP there who could only get cover for one week. She explained this to the court, and they let her off a week early. I've also talked to other musicians (I am one) who have done jury service, and have been excused if a large patch of work has come in during the two weeks. They do try and make things work for you where they can.
Oh, and if you ignore the letter you get a £1000 fine!
I'm self employed, so it cost me to do it, but I feel that you have to do it when asked or the system doesn't work. I was at Guildford crown court, and didn't see or have to serve with any 'Jeremy Kyle' types. Met people from a wide cross section of society, and everyone without exception took it seriously.
There was a GP there who could only get cover for one week. She explained this to the court, and they let her off a week early. I've also talked to other musicians (I am one) who have done jury service, and have been excused if a large patch of work has come in during the two weeks. They do try and make things work for you where they can.
Oh, and if you ignore the letter you get a £1000 fine!
I've been lurking on this topic with interest as a similar thread came up on SP&L recently(ish).
I made the mistake of saying on there that I considered it an important civic duty etc etc, only to find myself rounded on by the 'my time is considerably more valuable than yours' brigade.
That some of them were ex-BiB really shocked me.
Glad to see that on here the general feeling is that it is an important thing.
I made the mistake of saying on there that I considered it an important civic duty etc etc, only to find myself rounded on by the 'my time is considerably more valuable than yours' brigade.
That some of them were ex-BiB really shocked me.
Glad to see that on here the general feeling is that it is an important thing.
Although silly, it is currently the law...
Juries Act 1974 said:
Discretionary deferral
(1)If any person summoned under this Act shows to the satisfaction of the appropriate officer that there is good reason why his attendance in pursuance of the summons should be deferred, the appropriate officer may defer his attendance, and, if he does so, he shall vary the days on which that person is summoned to attend and the summons shall have effect accordingly.
(2)If an application under subsection (1) above has been granted or refused, the powers conferred by that subsection may not be exercised subsequently in relation to the same summons.
(3)Crown Court Rules shall provide a right of appeal to the court (or one of the courts) before which the person is summoned to attend against any refusal of the appropriate officer to defer his attendance under subsection (1) above.
(4)Without prejudice to the preceding provisions of this section, the court (or any of the courts) before which a person is summoned to attend under this Act may defer his attendance.]
Annotations:
Amendments (Textual)
F1S. 9A inserted by Criminal Justice Act 1988 (c. 33, SIF 39:1), ss. 120, 123(6), Sch. 8 para. 16
Basically (2) says, once only chum.(1)If any person summoned under this Act shows to the satisfaction of the appropriate officer that there is good reason why his attendance in pursuance of the summons should be deferred, the appropriate officer may defer his attendance, and, if he does so, he shall vary the days on which that person is summoned to attend and the summons shall have effect accordingly.
(2)If an application under subsection (1) above has been granted or refused, the powers conferred by that subsection may not be exercised subsequently in relation to the same summons.
(3)Crown Court Rules shall provide a right of appeal to the court (or one of the courts) before which the person is summoned to attend against any refusal of the appropriate officer to defer his attendance under subsection (1) above.
(4)Without prejudice to the preceding provisions of this section, the court (or any of the courts) before which a person is summoned to attend under this Act may defer his attendance.]
Annotations:
Amendments (Textual)
F1S. 9A inserted by Criminal Justice Act 1988 (c. 33, SIF 39:1), ss. 120, 123(6), Sch. 8 para. 16
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