Things you always wanted to know the answer to.

Things you always wanted to know the answer to.

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V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Mikeyplum said:
V8mate said:
Mikeyplum said:
torqueofthedevil said:
Why is there pressure dials in some tube carriages? I think they in bar. Go from 0 when moving to about 3 or 4 when doors open. When the doors shut but before moving they drop to 0. You can't really feel any change in pressure and I'm pretty sure the carriages aren't depressurised mechanically.
Would it not be the gauge for the air pressure in the system to operate the opening and closing of the doors? Seems the simplest explination really.
readit
I have, and what was the conclusion - struggling here! hehe
The gauge is for brake pressure.

Mikeyplum

1,646 posts

170 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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V8mate said:
Mikeyplum said:
V8mate said:
Mikeyplum said:
torqueofthedevil said:
Why is there pressure dials in some tube carriages? I think they in bar. Go from 0 when moving to about 3 or 4 when doors open. When the doors shut but before moving they drop to 0. You can't really feel any change in pressure and I'm pretty sure the carriages aren't depressurised mechanically.
Would it not be the gauge for the air pressure in the system to operate the opening and closing of the doors? Seems the simplest explination really.
readit
I have, and what was the conclusion - struggling here! hehe
The gauge is for brake pressure.
Ahhh, must of missed that bit. Thanks thumbup

Tyre Tread

10,539 posts

217 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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V8mate said:
JonnyFive said:
Why do trains do their, 'Bee boorr' noise?

Do they do it for a reason or do they do it to bib morning at their mates?
It's a horn, for use just like the horn on your car: to warn of their approach.

Along any route, there will be places where the driver is obliged to sound his horn though, for example at unmanned pedestrian crossings.
Along the side of railway lines you will see big white 'SW' letters which stands for sound whistle dating back to steam trains. V8mate said its ususally near crossings, tunnels etc to warn of their approach.

RacingPete

8,904 posts

205 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Tyre Tread said:
V8mate said:
JonnyFive said:
Why do trains do their, 'Bee boorr' noise?

Do they do it for a reason or do they do it to bib morning at their mates?
It's a horn, for use just like the horn on your car: to warn of their approach.

Along any route, there will be places where the driver is obliged to sound his horn though, for example at unmanned pedestrian crossings.
Along the side of railway lines you will see big white 'SW' letters which stands for sound whistle dating back to steam trains. V8mate said its ususally near crossings, tunnels etc to warn of their approach.
Some of it is regulation stuff on the railways. If workmen are working on the track then the train must sound its horn when approaching them, and once they raise their hand to acknowledge the train the train will respond back again.

GTIR

24,741 posts

267 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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RacingPete said:
Tyre Tread said:
V8mate said:
JonnyFive said:
Why do trains do their, 'Bee boorr' noise?

Do they do it for a reason or do they do it to bib morning at their mates?
It's a horn, for use just like the horn on your car: to warn of their approach.

Along any route, there will be places where the driver is obliged to sound his horn though, for example at unmanned pedestrian crossings.
Along the side of railway lines you will see big white 'SW' letters which stands for sound whistle dating back to steam trains. V8mate said its ususally near crossings, tunnels etc to warn of their approach.
Some of it is regulation stuff on the railways. If workmen are working on the track then the train must sound its horn when approaching them, and once they raise their hand to acknowledge the train the train will respond back again.
On a related note - National Rail (or whoever looks after the tack) are beginning to close a lot of the unmanned pedestrian crossings, even if they have been in use for years. There's a pedestrian near me and it's the only way for a lot of folk to get into town, as there is no footpath on the road.

Network Rail said "There is and has never been a right-of-way" so tough.

It's to do with these recent deaths and the st that hit the fan due to negligence etc.

V8mate

45,899 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Yeah, it's a shame that NR are negligent because people are too stupid to cross a railway line.

Mikeyboy

5,018 posts

236 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Would Darwin have given out the Darwin Awards if they could present them?

The level crossing thing made me wonder.

Cyder

7,067 posts

221 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Gets right on my tits this.

If you're too fking stupid to see/hear a train approaching and use common sense (stop look listen etc) then frankly you probably deserve to be hit.

Yet again everything is dumbed down to cater for the lowest common denominator. frown

GTIR

24,741 posts

267 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Thing is those girls would have crossed that bit many, many times before so it's not like they were new to the area. Maybe that's why they got hit, complacency. Or they were just a tad thick.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he... 15 year old girl

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047425/Te... another 15yo girl (Australia)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9051749/Rail-cross... Two girls, 13 and 15yo

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2084355/Yo... 23yo woman

Quick google, it's all wimin and 15yo!


Oli L

198 posts

174 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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If someone is selling a motorbike and the buyer would like to take it for a test ride does the seller put faith in the potential buyer to take a test ride on his own and not ride off into the sunset on it or does the seller go pillion on the back of the bike with him?

Aizle

12,429 posts

176 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Oli L said:
If someone is selling a motorbike and the buyer would like to take it for a test ride does the seller put faith in the potential buyer to take a test ride on his own and not ride off into the sunset on it or does the seller go pillion on the back of the bike with him?
Leave something of worth behind, like a car with the keys?

Oli L

198 posts

174 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Aizle said:
Oli L said:
If someone is selling a motorbike and the buyer would like to take it for a test ride does the seller put faith in the potential buyer to take a test ride on his own and not ride off into the sunset on it or does the seller go pillion on the back of the bike with him?
Leave something of worth behind, like a car with the keys?
What about if the car in question is a shed?

walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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Aizle said:
Leave something of worth behind, like the value of the bike, in cash?
FTFY

DannyScene

6,651 posts

156 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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GTIR said:
Thing is those girls would have crossed that bit many, many times before so it's not like they were new to the area. Maybe that's why they got hit, complacency. Or they were just a tad thick.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-beds-bucks-he... 15 year old girl

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2047425/Te... another 15yo girl (Australia)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/9051749/Rail-cross... Two girls, 13 and 15yo

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2084355/Yo... 23yo woman

Quick google, it's all wimin and 15yo!
Sorry to hijack the thread but this is ridiculous(from the 3rd link down)

'The crossing's lights were flashing and alarms were sounding as the London to Cambridge train passed over the crossing – a warning for foot passengers not to cross.

But after the train passed, the lights remained on and the alarms continued to sound as another train, travelling from Birmingham to Stansted Airport in Essex, was going to pass through the station.

The girls mistakenly opened the unlocked wicket gates and walked on to the crossing and were struck by the second train.'

Ok so the alarms were sounding and the lights were flashing which means a train is coming yet the 2 girls decided they should ignore the warnings and walk out. How in the fk is that National Rails fault. They died because they are stupid it's called natural selection. Live with it.

JonnyFive

29,403 posts

190 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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DannyScene said:
Sorry to hijack the thread but this is ridiculous(from the 3rd link down)

'The crossing's lights were flashing and alarms were sounding as the London to Cambridge train passed over the crossing – a warning for foot passengers not to cross.

But after the train passed, the lights remained on and the alarms continued to sound as another train, travelling from Birmingham to Stansted Airport in Essex, was going to pass through the station.

The girls mistakenly opened the unlocked wicket gates and walked on to the crossing and were struck by the second train.'

Ok so the alarms were sounding and the lights were flashing which means a train is coming yet the 2 girls decided they should ignore the warnings and walk out. How in the fk is that National Rails fault. They died because they are stupid it's called natural selection. Live with it.
I'm glad someone else has pointed this out.. Because I thought this when I first read the article back when it came out.

These two fk heads opened the gate and walked into a live train track, even though the lights and buzzers were on.. Yet Network Rail get the blame?! mad

George H

14,707 posts

165 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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What stops sharks attacking/eating other fish in aquariums?

walm

10,609 posts

203 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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They get the blame because they studied the crossing and concluded that for it to be safe it needed a lockable gate.

They then proceeded NOT to install that gate.
Then when these children died they buried the report because had it come to light it would have shown them to be negligent for not following their own advice.

The report then came to light.
Hence guilty plea to negligence.

The guy you chaps have a beef with is the guy (who presumably worked for NR) who concluded that a lockable gate was needed and then put it in a report.

However, since a couple of kids died it might be argued that the guy who wrote that report was RIGHT!

R300will

3,799 posts

152 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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well fed?

DannyScene

6,651 posts

156 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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walm said:
They get the blame because they studied the crossing and concluded that for it to be safe it needed a lockable gate.

They then proceeded NOT to install that gate.
Then when these children died they buried the report because had it come to light it would have shown them to be negligent for not following their own advice.

The report then came to light.
Hence guilty plea to negligence.

The guy you chaps have a beef with is the guy (who presumably worked for NR) who concluded that a lockable gate was needed and then put it in a report.

However, since a couple of kids died it might be argued that the guy who wrote that report was RIGHT!
Possibly but it doesn't detract from the fact that by common sense you would not walk onto a train track lockable gate or no gate at all if there are alarms blaring and lights flashing.
I'll stand by my comment that the girls we're fking idiots and in my eyes the fault is solely their own.

OlberJ

14,101 posts

234 months

Thursday 23rd February 2012
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George H said:
What stops sharks attacking/eating other fish in aquariums?
Nothing, and they quite often do eat them.


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