The return of 'Fat chicken kid'.

[gifdy]

Frankeh said:

Cara van Man said:

until upon my departure I gave him a cheery wave and mouthed the words "fking bellend" at him.

fk. I just burst out laughing in my office and my boss asked me what I was laughing at.
I need to be more careful.

Your disdain for children is god like.

Can you see anything from up there ?

[Ladyhayles]

Roo said:

LadyH, your upbringing sounds similar to mine with the way we were disciplined as children. Doesn't appear to have done any harm to myself or my siblings.

Southendpier, no offence but you do sound like a left wing social worker.

I think that's going a bit far to refer to Southendpier as a social worker!

I know a lot of people who had a very similar upbringing to mine and we are all fairly level headed adults. Yes, we've all had small rebellious outbursts but nothing that any other teenagers didn't try to get away with.

I can only comment on my own experiences and provide my views based on those. Myself, my other half and most of the people we know were disciplined the same way and we all know right from wrong and when we have crossed the line. I also recall from growing up that my school friends who did not receive the same form of discipline from their parents always stretched the boundaries further and further and generally got into more trouble.

Hey, I'm no psychologist and I don't know if that is directly linked to being smacked or not smacked but it seems a fairly strong argument in favour IMO.

But as I've said before, I am not a fan of children and prefer to not be around them if it can be helped in any way and think I would be a lot more tolerant of them if it wasn't for the fact that most people's children have absolutely no concept of how to behave in public.

[ukwill]

Ladyhayles said:

Roo said:

LadyH, your upbringing sounds similar to mine with the way we were disciplined as children. Doesn't appear to have done any harm to myself or my siblings.

Southendpier, no offence but you do sound like a left wing social worker.

I think that's going a bit far to refer to Southendpier as a social worker!

I know a lot of people who had a very similar upbringing to mine and we are all fairly level headed adults. Yes, we've all had small rebellious outbursts but nothing that any other teenagers didn't try to get away with.

I can only comment on my own experiences and provide my views based on those. Myself, my other half and most of the people we know were disciplined the same way and we all know right from wrong and when we have crossed the line. I also recall from growing up that my school friends who did not receive the same form of discipline from their parents always stretched the boundaries further and further and generally got into more trouble.

Hey, I'm no psychologist and I don't know if that is directly linked to being smacked or not smacked but it seems a fairly strong argument in favour IMO.

But as I've said before, I am not a fan of children and prefer to not be around them if it can be helped in any way and think I would be a lot more tolerant of them if it wasn't for the fact that most people's children have absolutely no concept of how to behave in public.

Lorraine???

[Ladyhayles]

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

Roo said:

LadyH, your upbringing sounds similar to mine with the way we were disciplined as children. Doesn't appear to have done any harm to myself or my siblings.

Southendpier, no offence but you do sound like a left wing social worker.

I think that's going a bit far to refer to Southendpier as a social worker!

I know a lot of people who had a very similar upbringing to mine and we are all fairly level headed adults. Yes, we've all had small rebellious outbursts but nothing that any other teenagers didn't try to get away with.

I can only comment on my own experiences and provide my views based on those. Myself, my other half and most of the people we know were disciplined the same way and we all know right from wrong and when we have crossed the line. I also recall from growing up that my school friends who did not receive the same form of discipline from their parents always stretched the boundaries further and further and generally got into more trouble.

Hey, I'm no psychologist and I don't know if that is directly linked to being smacked or not smacked but it seems a fairly strong argument in favour IMO.

But as I've said before, I am not a fan of children and prefer to not be around them if it can be helped in any way and think I would be a lot more tolerant of them if it wasn't for the fact that most people's children have absolutely no concept of how to behave in public.

Lorraine???

Are you asking if I'm called Lorraine? If so, no I'm Hayley, I think the Hayles bit of Ladyhayles kind of gives that away.

[southendpier]

Ladyhayles said:

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

Roo said:

LadyH, your upbringing sounds similar to mine with the way we were disciplined as children. Doesn't appear to have done any harm to myself or my siblings.

Southendpier, no offence but you do sound like a left wing social worker.

I think that's going a bit far to refer to Southendpier as a social worker!

I know a lot of people who had a very similar upbringing to mine and we are all fairly level headed adults. Yes, we've all had small rebellious outbursts but nothing that any other teenagers didn't try to get away with.

I can only comment on my own experiences and provide my views based on those. Myself, my other half and most of the people we know were disciplined the same way and we all know right from wrong and when we have crossed the line. I also recall from growing up that my school friends who did not receive the same form of discipline from their parents always stretched the boundaries further and further and generally got into more trouble.

Hey, I'm no psychologist and I don't know if that is directly linked to being smacked or not smacked but it seems a fairly strong argument in favour IMO.

But as I've said before, I am not a fan of children and prefer to not be around them if it can be helped in any way and think I would be a lot more tolerant of them if it wasn't for the fact that most people's children have absolutely no concept of how to behave in public.

Lorraine???

Are you asking if I'm called Lorraine? If so, no I'm Hayley, I think the Hayles bit of Ladyhayles kind of gives that away.

I thought that was your surname and you had a peerage.

[ukwill]

Ladyhayles said:

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

Roo said:

LadyH, your upbringing sounds similar to mine with the way we were disciplined as children. Doesn't appear to have done any harm to myself or my siblings.

Southendpier, no offence but you do sound like a left wing social worker.

I think that's going a bit far to refer to Southendpier as a social worker!

I know a lot of people who had a very similar upbringing to mine and we are all fairly level headed adults. Yes, we've all had small rebellious outbursts but nothing that any other teenagers didn't try to get away with.

I can only comment on my own experiences and provide my views based on those. Myself, my other half and most of the people we know were disciplined the same way and we all know right from wrong and when we have crossed the line. I also recall from growing up that my school friends who did not receive the same form of discipline from their parents always stretched the boundaries further and further and generally got into more trouble.

Hey, I'm no psychologist and I don't know if that is directly linked to being smacked or not smacked but it seems a fairly strong argument in favour IMO.

But as I've said before, I am not a fan of children and prefer to not be around them if it can be helped in any way and think I would be a lot more tolerant of them if it wasn't for the fact that most people's children have absolutely no concept of how to behave in public.

Lorraine???

Are you asking if I'm called Lorraine? If so, no I'm Hayley, I think the Hayles bit of Ladyhayles kind of gives that away.

[Ladyhayles]

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

Roo said:

LadyH, your upbringing sounds similar to mine with the way we were disciplined as children. Doesn't appear to have done any harm to myself or my siblings.

Southendpier, no offence but you do sound like a left wing social worker.

I think that's going a bit far to refer to Southendpier as a social worker!

I know a lot of people who had a very similar upbringing to mine and we are all fairly level headed adults. Yes, we've all had small rebellious outbursts but nothing that any other teenagers didn't try to get away with.

I can only comment on my own experiences and provide my views based on those. Myself, my other half and most of the people we know were disciplined the same way and we all know right from wrong and when we have crossed the line. I also recall from growing up that my school friends who did not receive the same form of discipline from their parents always stretched the boundaries further and further and generally got into more trouble.

Hey, I'm no psychologist and I don't know if that is directly linked to being smacked or not smacked but it seems a fairly strong argument in favour IMO.

But as I've said before, I am not a fan of children and prefer to not be around them if it can be helped in any way and think I would be a lot more tolerant of them if it wasn't for the fact that most people's children have absolutely no concept of how to behave in public.

Lorraine???

Are you asking if I'm called Lorraine? If so, no I'm Hayley, I think the Hayles bit of Ladyhayles kind of gives that away.

I did think something had clearly gone over my head but really wasn't sure what the Lorraine thing referred to!

[ukwill]

Ladyhayles said:

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

Roo said:

LadyH, your upbringing sounds similar to mine with the way we were disciplined as children. Doesn't appear to have done any harm to myself or my siblings.

Southendpier, no offence but you do sound like a left wing social worker.

I think that's going a bit far to refer to Southendpier as a social worker!

I know a lot of people who had a very similar upbringing to mine and we are all fairly level headed adults. Yes, we've all had small rebellious outbursts but nothing that any other teenagers didn't try to get away with.

I can only comment on my own experiences and provide my views based on those. Myself, my other half and most of the people we know were disciplined the same way and we all know right from wrong and when we have crossed the line. I also recall from growing up that my school friends who did not receive the same form of discipline from their parents always stretched the boundaries further and further and generally got into more trouble.

Hey, I'm no psychologist and I don't know if that is directly linked to being smacked or not smacked but it seems a fairly strong argument in favour IMO.

But as I've said before, I am not a fan of children and prefer to not be around them if it can be helped in any way and think I would be a lot more tolerant of them if it wasn't for the fact that most people's children have absolutely no concept of how to behave in public.

Lorraine???

Are you asking if I'm called Lorraine? If so, no I'm Hayley, I think the Hayles bit of Ladyhayles kind of gives that away.

I did think something had clearly gone over my head but really wasn't sure what the Lorraine thing referred to!

You sounded just like my wife.

[didelydoo]

It's not very nice to call a small child a bellend. Even if he is.
If you really cared you should have said something to the parents. You didn't.

Bit wimpy realy.

[snowy slopes]

southendpier said:

ukwill said:

southendpier said:

Roo said:

LadyH, your upbringing sounds similar to mine with the way we were disciplined as children. Doesn't appear to have done any harm to myself or my siblings.

Southendpier, no offence but you do sound like a left wing social worker.

Hey none taken, (although that is a pretty fierce insult), you don't know me, you probably never will but trust me, you could not be more wrong with your description.

As I have stated earlier in the thread I was bought up in a home where punishment by beatings/smacks/inflicting pain/shock (whatever you want to define it) were the norm.

I'd be interested to know, seriously, why deciding to not hit your own children in the name of discipline is deemed "wrong" is so many peoples eyes?

Which is the reason you hold the view you have.

Punishment by beatings/smacks/inflicting pain/shock is not and should not be the norm in any household. No one in this thread is saying it should.

True enough, it is one of the reasons.

No, several people in this thread suggest it should be the norm, they drop in leave a moronic comment a couple of insults and leave, I'm just trying to call them out and see if they are on a wind up (this is the Lounge afterall).

Others have tempered their original view or offered reasoned explanations which is cool.

Edited by southendpier on Friday 6th August 15:49

I'll assume your including me in the moronic comment group. At no point did i say leather the kid regularly, however, i still maintain that a smack is a far better deterrent than sending them to the naughty step, after all, if you send them to the naughty step all that will happen is your kids will think your a mug, whereas if you smack it when it oversteps the mark and refuses to obey you, then i'm damn sure he/she wont do it again.

Oh, and by obey you, i mean when you tell it to behave, come her, dont do that etc etc, and as for a smack, i do mean a smack, not a belt. As someone else said, if you get a sharp smack when acting up, 9 time out of 10 it stops you from doing it again.


As for the moronic comments quip, meh

[southendpier]

snowy slopes said:

southendpier said:

ukwill said:

southendpier said:

Roo said:

LadyH, your upbringing sounds similar to mine with the way we were disciplined as children. Doesn't appear to have done any harm to myself or my siblings.

Southendpier, no offence but you do sound like a left wing social worker.

Hey none taken, (although that is a pretty fierce insult), you don't know me, you probably never will but trust me, you could not be more wrong with your description.

As I have stated earlier in the thread I was bought up in a home where punishment by beatings/smacks/inflicting pain/shock (whatever you want to define it) were the norm.

I'd be interested to know, seriously, why deciding to not hit your own children in the name of discipline is deemed "wrong" is so many peoples eyes?

Which is the reason you hold the view you have.

Punishment by beatings/smacks/inflicting pain/shock is not and should not be the norm in any household. No one in this thread is saying it should.

True enough, it is one of the reasons.

No, several people in this thread suggest it should be the norm, they drop in leave a moronic comment a couple of insults and leave, I'm just trying to call them out and see if they are on a wind up (this is the Lounge afterall).

Others have tempered their original view or offered reasoned explanations which is cool.

Edited by southendpier on Friday 6th August 15:49

I'll assume your including me in the moronic comment group. At no point did i say leather the kid regularly, however, i still maintain that a smack is a far better deterrent than sending them to the naughty step, after all, if you send them to the naughty step all that will happen is your kids will think your a mug, whereas if you smack it when it oversteps the mark and refuses to obey you, then i'm damn sure he/she wont do it again.

Oh, and by obey you, i mean when you tell it to behave, come her, dont do that etc etc, and as for a smack, i do mean a smack, not a belt. As someone else said, if you get a sharp smack when acting up, 9 time out of 10 it stops you from doing it again.


As for the moronic comments quip, meh

I wasn't pointing the finger. In my exeriance you are a little off the mark with how to bring up kids but we've covered that one! Look, say it works for you and you have a great kid that loves you and develops into a decent adult then great; what could be better?



(i just can't hit my kids and would advise all new parents to try not to if they possibly could avoid it)

[dirty boy]

I know full well in a restaurant the last thing people want to hear is a screaming child.

Thankfully, the WCs in most places are well sound proofed if you need to adminsiter a beating stern warning.

[snowy slopes]

Southend, how you want to bring your kids up is entirely up to you, i would never interfere in the way you do that, but i think you and i will always disagree on this one , mind you my view is hardly helped by living in doncaster ffs, where all kids are worthy of being assaulted with a cattle prod

[Soovy]

snowy slopes said:

all kids are worthy of being assaulted with a cattle prod

[Cara van Man]

didelydoo said:

It's not very nice to call a small child a bellend. Even if he is.
If you really cared you should have said something to the parents. You didn't.

Bit wimpy realy.

Meh

[Cara van Man]

didelydoo said:

It's not very nice to call a small child a bellend. Even if he is.
If you really cared you should have said something to the parents. You didn't.

Bit wimpy realy.

Meh

Meh

[rich1231]

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

Roo said:

LadyH, your upbringing sounds similar to mine with the way we were disciplined as children. Doesn't appear to have done any harm to myself or my siblings.

Southendpier, no offence but you do sound like a left wing social worker.

I think that's going a bit far to refer to Southendpier as a social worker!

I know a lot of people who had a very similar upbringing to mine and we are all fairly level headed adults. Yes, we've all had small rebellious outbursts but nothing that any other teenagers didn't try to get away with.

I can only comment on my own experiences and provide my views based on those. Myself, my other half and most of the people we know were disciplined the same way and we all know right from wrong and when we have crossed the line. I also recall from growing up that my school friends who did not receive the same form of discipline from their parents always stretched the boundaries further and further and generally got into more trouble.

Hey, I'm no psychologist and I don't know if that is directly linked to being smacked or not smacked but it seems a fairly strong argument in favour IMO.

But as I've said before, I am not a fan of children and prefer to not be around them if it can be helped in any way and think I would be a lot more tolerant of them if it wasn't for the fact that most people's children have absolutely no concept of how to behave in public.

Lorraine???

Are you asking if I'm called Lorraine? If so, no I'm Hayley, I think the Hayles bit of Ladyhayles kind of gives that away.

I did think something had clearly gone over my head but really wasn't sure what the Lorraine thing referred to!

You sounded just like my wife.

Wow a joke with an intended audience of one. Keep it up next year you will be at the fringe.

[ukwill]

rich1231 said:

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

ukwill said:

Ladyhayles said:

Roo said:

LadyH, your upbringing sounds similar to mine with the way we were disciplined as children. Doesn't appear to have done any harm to myself or my siblings.

Southendpier, no offence but you do sound like a left wing social worker.

I think that's going a bit far to refer to Southendpier as a social worker!

I know a lot of people who had a very similar upbringing to mine and we are all fairly level headed adults. Yes, we've all had small rebellious outbursts but nothing that any other teenagers didn't try to get away with.

I can only comment on my own experiences and provide my views based on those. Myself, my other half and most of the people we know were disciplined the same way and we all know right from wrong and when we have crossed the line. I also recall from growing up that my school friends who did not receive the same form of discipline from their parents always stretched the boundaries further and further and generally got into more trouble.

Hey, I'm no psychologist and I don't know if that is directly linked to being smacked or not smacked but it seems a fairly strong argument in favour IMO.

But as I've said before, I am not a fan of children and prefer to not be around them if it can be helped in any way and think I would be a lot more tolerant of them if it wasn't for the fact that most people's children have absolutely no concept of how to behave in public.

Lorraine???

Are you asking if I'm called Lorraine? If so, no I'm Hayley, I think the Hayles bit of Ladyhayles kind of gives that away.

I did think something had clearly gone over my head but really wasn't sure what the Lorraine thing referred to!

You sounded just like my wife.

Wow a joke with an intended audience of one. Keep it up next year you will be at the fringe.

I'm afraid you've come too late to help the damsel in distress, oh knight of the internet.

[Astacus]

ukwill said:

I'm afraid you've come too late to help the damsel in distress, oh knight of the internet.

Rich1231, knight of the internet?

[Mr Dave]

Right this has rightly annoyed me because I'm in a shot mood already.

"the kid is not the problem" Well actually yes he is. Yes the parents are the source of the problem, but it is the kid that is being the problem to other people. Bit like a criminal isn't the problem it's society. Excuse me, society didn't break into my house, steal my car keys and rape me dog. That would be the criminal. The cause needs fixing and so does the symptom.

If I went to the doctor with the never ending squits and he gave me tablets that cured the cause in 4 months I wouldn't be happy, or any of the other 6 dwarves, I'd want some immodium or something too that would work quickly.

And those that say all hitting of kids is beating or abusing them well you mighty be able to see things better if you pulled your head out of your arse. We are mostly adults, we are strong and kids are weak and puny and oh so easy to beat. The whole thing about using common sense is knowing that what is a light tap in reality is a big deal to a kid, if you hit a kid as hard as you would hit an adult then you are scum. It may be fun to properly hit a kid but anyone abusing anyone smaller, weaker, less vulnerable or animals or whatever are full fledged s and bullies.

As real men we all should stand up for those more vulnerable than ourselves otherwise you are just a yellow .

You should know when a smack should be used and that it should be reasonable, fair, explained to the child. After that the mere threat of a smack should be enough to encourage good behaviour. Then if you have done right you shouldn't need to do it again. Ever. Other lesser punishments and the fear of a smack will be enough. Threats should always be followed up on and carried out otherwise no use, and in my opinion an empty threat is worse than no threat.

Kids should have a healthy respect for their authority figures backed up by the knowledge that if they are out of line it will be dealt with severly. They also should know things can be worse and that a smack is bad but you can always smack harder. A big problem is 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce and there are many single parents now and unfortunately a lot
of the children from these backgrounds are little s.

Parents who pander to their kids every whim are also stupid.

I was a bit spoiled and treated too softly but I was and still am terrified of my dad, he only ever slapped me once and by fk I was far too scared to fk him around. Even when I was wee I knew it was tantamount to suicide although I now realise he would probably have cried at having to hit me or the wee brother.

It is my opinion that there are too many men who shy away from their responsibilities (and women) these days and that the lack of spine is a huge problem.


Also what is wrong with children being children, they grow up too fast and get treated like little adults now. They are not little adults, that would be anpygmy or a dwarf or a midget or a runt. Children don't need to feel entitled to everything and definately don't need mobile phones when they are 5, games consoles when they are 7 , laptops with the Internet at 0, wee girls having push up bras and all that st, cut it out for fk sake. Also kids with adult movies and games when they are far too young is mental. fk.

Edited by Mr Dave on Sunday 8th August 03:27