The return of 'Fat chicken kid'.
Discussion
Mr Dave said:
Right this has rightly annoyed me because I'm in a shot mood already.
"the kid is not the problem" Well actually yes he is. Yes the parents are the source of the problem, but it is the kid that is being the problem to other people. Bit like a criminal isn't the problem it's society. Excuse me, society didn't break into my house, steal my car keys and rape me dog. That would be the criminal. The cause needs fixing and so does the symptom.
If I went to the doctor with the never ending squits and he gave me tablets that cured the cause in 4 months I wouldn't be happy, or any of the other 6 dwarves, I'd want some immodium or something too that would work quickly.
And those that say all hitting of kids is beating or abusing them well you mighty be able to see things better if you pulled your head out of your arse. We are mostly adults, we are strong and kids are weak and puny and oh so easy to beat. The whole thing about using common sense is knowing that what is a light tap in reality is a big deal to a kid, if you hit a kid as hard as you would hit an adult then you are scum. It may be fun to properly hit a kid but anyone abusing anyone smaller, weaker, less vulnerable or animals or whatever are full fledged
s and bullies.
As real men we all should stand up for those more vulnerable than ourselves otherwise you are just a yellow.
You should know when a smack should be used and that it should be reasonable, fair, explained to the child. After that the mere threat of a smack should be enough to encourage good behaviour. Then if you have done right you shouldn't need to do it again. Ever. Other lesser punishments and the fear of a smack will be enough. Threats should always be followed up on and carried out otherwise no use, and in my opinion an empty threat is worse than no threat.
Kids should have a healthy respect for their authority figures backed up by the knowledge that if they are out of line it will be dealt with severly. They also should know things can be worse and that a smack is bad but you can always smack harder. A big problem is 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce and there are many single parents now and unfortunately a lot
of the children from these backgrounds are littles.
Parents who pander to their kids every whim are also stupid.
I was a bit spoiled and treated too softly but I was and still am terrified of my dad, he only ever slapped me once and by fk I was far too scared to fk him around. Even when I was wee I knew it was tantamount to suicide although I now realise he would probably have cried at having to hit me or the wee brother.
It is my opinion that there are too many men who shy away from their responsibilities (and women) these days and that the lack of spine is a huge problem.
Also what is wrong with children being children, they grow up too fast and get treated like little adults now. They are not little adults, that would be anpygmy or a dwarf or a midget or a runt. Children don't need to feel entitled to everything and definately don't need mobile phones when they are 5, games consoles when they are 7 , laptops with the Internet at 0, wee girls having push up bras and all that st, cut it out for fk sake. Also kids with adult movies and games when they are far too young is mental. fk.
10/10 for meaning."the kid is not the problem" Well actually yes he is. Yes the parents are the source of the problem, but it is the kid that is being the problem to other people. Bit like a criminal isn't the problem it's society. Excuse me, society didn't break into my house, steal my car keys and rape me dog. That would be the criminal. The cause needs fixing and so does the symptom.
If I went to the doctor with the never ending squits and he gave me tablets that cured the cause in 4 months I wouldn't be happy, or any of the other 6 dwarves, I'd want some immodium or something too that would work quickly.
And those that say all hitting of kids is beating or abusing them well you mighty be able to see things better if you pulled your head out of your arse. We are mostly adults, we are strong and kids are weak and puny and oh so easy to beat. The whole thing about using common sense is knowing that what is a light tap in reality is a big deal to a kid, if you hit a kid as hard as you would hit an adult then you are scum. It may be fun to properly hit a kid but anyone abusing anyone smaller, weaker, less vulnerable or animals or whatever are full fledged
s and bullies.As real men we all should stand up for those more vulnerable than ourselves otherwise you are just a yellow
. You should know when a smack should be used and that it should be reasonable, fair, explained to the child. After that the mere threat of a smack should be enough to encourage good behaviour. Then if you have done right you shouldn't need to do it again. Ever. Other lesser punishments and the fear of a smack will be enough. Threats should always be followed up on and carried out otherwise no use, and in my opinion an empty threat is worse than no threat.
Kids should have a healthy respect for their authority figures backed up by the knowledge that if they are out of line it will be dealt with severly. They also should know things can be worse and that a smack is bad but you can always smack harder. A big problem is 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce and there are many single parents now and unfortunately a lot
of the children from these backgrounds are little
s.Parents who pander to their kids every whim are also stupid.
I was a bit spoiled and treated too softly but I was and still am terrified of my dad, he only ever slapped me once and by f
k I was far too scared to fk him around. Even when I was wee I knew it was tantamount to suicide although I now realise he would probably have cried at having to hit me or the wee brother.It is my opinion that there are too many men who shy away from their responsibilities (and women) these days and that the lack of spine is a huge problem.
Also what is wrong with children being children, they grow up too fast and get treated like little adults now. They are not little adults, that would be anpygmy or a dwarf or a midget or a runt. Children don't need to feel entitled to everything and definately don't need mobile phones when they are 5, games consoles when they are 7 , laptops with the Internet at 0, wee girls having push up bras and all that s
t, cut it out for fk sake. Also kids with adult movies and games when they are far too young is mental. fk.Edited by Mr Dave on Sunday 8th August 03:27
9/10 for delivery.
A bit more swearing needed.
Mr Dave said:
Right this has rightly annoyed me because I'm in a shot mood already.
"the kid is not the problem" Well actually yes he is. Yes the parents are the source of the problem, but it is the kid that is being the problem to other people. Bit like a criminal isn't the problem it's society. Excuse me, society didn't break into my house, steal my car keys and rape me dog. That would be the criminal. The cause needs fixing and so does the symptom.
If I went to the doctor with the never ending squits and he gave me tablets that cured the cause in 4 months I wouldn't be happy, or any of the other 6 dwarves, I'd want some immodium or something too that would work quickly.
And those that say all hitting of kids is beating or abusing them well you mighty be able to see things better if you pulled your head out of your arse. We are mostly adults, we are strong and kids are weak and puny and oh so easy to beat. The whole thing about using common sense is knowing that what is a light tap in reality is a big deal to a kid, if you hit a kid as hard as you would hit an adult then you are scum. It may be fun to properly hit a kid but anyone abusing anyone smaller, weaker, less vulnerable or animals or whatever are full fledgeds and bullies.
As real men we all should stand up for those more vulnerable than ourselves otherwise you are just a yellow.
You should know when a smack should be used and that it should be reasonable, fair, explained to the child. After that the mere threat of a smack should be enough to encourage good behaviour. Then if you have done right you shouldn't need to do it again. Ever. Other lesser punishments and the fear of a smack will be enough. Threats should always be followed up on and carried out otherwise no use, and in my opinion an empty threat is worse than no threat.
Kids should have a healthy respect for their authority figures backed up by the knowledge that if they are out of line it will be dealt with severly. They also should know things can be worse and that a smack is bad but you can always smack harder. A big problem is 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce and there are many single parents now and unfortunately a lot
of the children from these backgrounds are littles.
Parents who pander to their kids every whim are also stupid.
I was a bit spoiled and treated too softly but I was and still am terrified of my dad, he only ever slapped me once and by fk I was far too scared to fk him around. Even when I was wee I knew it was tantamount to suicide although I now realise he would probably have cried at having to hit me or the wee brother.
It is my opinion that there are too many men who shy away from their responsibilities (and women) these days and that the lack of spine is a huge problem.
Also what is wrong with children being children, they grow up too fast and get treated like little adults now. They are not little adults, that would be anpygmy or a dwarf or a midget or a runt. Children don't need to feel entitled to everything and definately don't need mobile phones when they are 5, games consoles when they are 7 , laptops with the Internet at 0, wee girls having push up bras and all that st, cut it out for fk sake. Also kids with adult movies and games when they are far too young is mental. fk.
This man doth speak wise words. Well said Mr Dave."the kid is not the problem" Well actually yes he is. Yes the parents are the source of the problem, but it is the kid that is being the problem to other people. Bit like a criminal isn't the problem it's society. Excuse me, society didn't break into my house, steal my car keys and rape me dog. That would be the criminal. The cause needs fixing and so does the symptom.
If I went to the doctor with the never ending squits and he gave me tablets that cured the cause in 4 months I wouldn't be happy, or any of the other 6 dwarves, I'd want some immodium or something too that would work quickly.
And those that say all hitting of kids is beating or abusing them well you mighty be able to see things better if you pulled your head out of your arse. We are mostly adults, we are strong and kids are weak and puny and oh so easy to beat. The whole thing about using common sense is knowing that what is a light tap in reality is a big deal to a kid, if you hit a kid as hard as you would hit an adult then you are scum. It may be fun to properly hit a kid but anyone abusing anyone smaller, weaker, less vulnerable or animals or whatever are full fledged
s and bullies.As real men we all should stand up for those more vulnerable than ourselves otherwise you are just a yellow
. You should know when a smack should be used and that it should be reasonable, fair, explained to the child. After that the mere threat of a smack should be enough to encourage good behaviour. Then if you have done right you shouldn't need to do it again. Ever. Other lesser punishments and the fear of a smack will be enough. Threats should always be followed up on and carried out otherwise no use, and in my opinion an empty threat is worse than no threat.
Kids should have a healthy respect for their authority figures backed up by the knowledge that if they are out of line it will be dealt with severly. They also should know things can be worse and that a smack is bad but you can always smack harder. A big problem is 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce and there are many single parents now and unfortunately a lot
of the children from these backgrounds are little
s.Parents who pander to their kids every whim are also stupid.
I was a bit spoiled and treated too softly but I was and still am terrified of my dad, he only ever slapped me once and by f
k I was far too scared to fk him around. Even when I was wee I knew it was tantamount to suicide although I now realise he would probably have cried at having to hit me or the wee brother.It is my opinion that there are too many men who shy away from their responsibilities (and women) these days and that the lack of spine is a huge problem.
Also what is wrong with children being children, they grow up too fast and get treated like little adults now. They are not little adults, that would be anpygmy or a dwarf or a midget or a runt. Children don't need to feel entitled to everything and definately don't need mobile phones when they are 5, games consoles when they are 7 , laptops with the Internet at 0, wee girls having push up bras and all that s
t, cut it out for fk sake. Also kids with adult movies and games when they are far too young is mental. fk.Edited by Mr Dave on Sunday 8th August 03:27
GT03ROB said:
Mr Dave said:
Right this has rightly annoyed me because I'm in a shot mood already.
"the kid is not the problem" Well actually yes he is. Yes the parents are the source of the problem, but it is the kid that is being the problem to other people. Bit like a criminal isn't the problem it's society. Excuse me, society didn't break into my house, steal my car keys and rape me dog. That would be the criminal. The cause needs fixing and so does the symptom.
If I went to the doctor with the never ending squits and he gave me tablets that cured the cause in 4 months I wouldn't be happy, or any of the other 6 dwarves, I'd want some immodium or something too that would work quickly.
And those that say all hitting of kids is beating or abusing them well you mighty be able to see things better if you pulled your head out of your arse. We are mostly adults, we are strong and kids are weak and puny and oh so easy to beat. The whole thing about using common sense is knowing that what is a light tap in reality is a big deal to a kid, if you hit a kid as hard as you would hit an adult then you are scum. It may be fun to properly hit a kid but anyone abusing anyone smaller, weaker, less vulnerable or animals or whatever are full fledgeds and bullies.
As real men we all should stand up for those more vulnerable than ourselves otherwise you are just a yellow.
You should know when a smack should be used and that it should be reasonable, fair, explained to the child. After that the mere threat of a smack should be enough to encourage good behaviour. Then if you have done right you shouldn't need to do it again. Ever. Other lesser punishments and the fear of a smack will be enough. Threats should always be followed up on and carried out otherwise no use, and in my opinion an empty threat is worse than no threat.
Kids should have a healthy respect for their authority figures backed up by the knowledge that if they are out of line it will be dealt with severly. They also should know things can be worse and that a smack is bad but you can always smack harder. A big problem is 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce and there are many single parents now and unfortunately a lot
of the children from these backgrounds are littles.
Parents who pander to their kids every whim are also stupid.
I was a bit spoiled and treated too softly but I was and still am terrified of my dad, he only ever slapped me once and by fk I was far too scared to fk him around. Even when I was wee I knew it was tantamount to suicide although I now realise he would probably have cried at having to hit me or the wee brother.
It is my opinion that there are too many men who shy away from their responsibilities (and women) these days and that the lack of spine is a huge problem.
Also what is wrong with children being children, they grow up too fast and get treated like little adults now. They are not little adults, that would be anpygmy or a dwarf or a midget or a runt. Children don't need to feel entitled to everything and definately don't need mobile phones when they are 5, games consoles when they are 7 , laptops with the Internet at 0, wee girls having push up bras and all that st, cut it out for fk sake. Also kids with adult movies and games when they are far too young is mental. fk.
This man doth speak wise words. Well said Mr Dave."the kid is not the problem" Well actually yes he is. Yes the parents are the source of the problem, but it is the kid that is being the problem to other people. Bit like a criminal isn't the problem it's society. Excuse me, society didn't break into my house, steal my car keys and rape me dog. That would be the criminal. The cause needs fixing and so does the symptom.
If I went to the doctor with the never ending squits and he gave me tablets that cured the cause in 4 months I wouldn't be happy, or any of the other 6 dwarves, I'd want some immodium or something too that would work quickly.
And those that say all hitting of kids is beating or abusing them well you mighty be able to see things better if you pulled your head out of your arse. We are mostly adults, we are strong and kids are weak and puny and oh so easy to beat. The whole thing about using common sense is knowing that what is a light tap in reality is a big deal to a kid, if you hit a kid as hard as you would hit an adult then you are scum. It may be fun to properly hit a kid but anyone abusing anyone smaller, weaker, less vulnerable or animals or whatever are full fledged
s and bullies.As real men we all should stand up for those more vulnerable than ourselves otherwise you are just a yellow
. You should know when a smack should be used and that it should be reasonable, fair, explained to the child. After that the mere threat of a smack should be enough to encourage good behaviour. Then if you have done right you shouldn't need to do it again. Ever. Other lesser punishments and the fear of a smack will be enough. Threats should always be followed up on and carried out otherwise no use, and in my opinion an empty threat is worse than no threat.
Kids should have a healthy respect for their authority figures backed up by the knowledge that if they are out of line it will be dealt with severly. They also should know things can be worse and that a smack is bad but you can always smack harder. A big problem is 1 in 3 marriages end in divorce and there are many single parents now and unfortunately a lot
of the children from these backgrounds are little
s.Parents who pander to their kids every whim are also stupid.
I was a bit spoiled and treated too softly but I was and still am terrified of my dad, he only ever slapped me once and by f
k I was far too scared to fk him around. Even when I was wee I knew it was tantamount to suicide although I now realise he would probably have cried at having to hit me or the wee brother.It is my opinion that there are too many men who shy away from their responsibilities (and women) these days and that the lack of spine is a huge problem.
Also what is wrong with children being children, they grow up too fast and get treated like little adults now. They are not little adults, that would be anpygmy or a dwarf or a midget or a runt. Children don't need to feel entitled to everything and definately don't need mobile phones when they are 5, games consoles when they are 7 , laptops with the Internet at 0, wee girls having push up bras and all that s
t, cut it out for fk sake. Also kids with adult movies and games when they are far too young is mental. fk.Edited by Mr Dave on Sunday 8th August 03:27
I'm not against smacking, I just know that if I ever had to resort to it, I would be ashamed with myself for not spotting the issue earlier and dealing with it in a better way.
alock said:
Disagree. It sounds like you live in a black and white world where the good parents accept that a smack is often required and the ones that don't accept this are bad parents. There are many good parents who manage without smacking their children, and many bad parents who justify smacking as necessary when often the issue could have been handled differently.
I'm not against smacking, I just know that if I ever had to resort to it, I would be ashamed with myself for not spotting the issue earlier and dealing with it in a better way.
+1I'm not against smacking, I just know that if I ever had to resort to it, I would be ashamed with myself for not spotting the issue earlier and dealing with it in a better way.
Smacking your kids is not a badge of honour and nor does it equate to proper discipline. Parents have a range of disciplinary tools at their disposal and smacking is unnecessary and counter-productive. No smacking does not equate to no discipline, as most "pro-smackers" seem to assume.
If my little girl hits her little brother and I give her a smack for that, what kind of message am I sending. It's OK for me, but naughty for you?
Cara van Man said:
Regardless of the semantics of smacking, are we all agreed that FCK needs a good, hard kick in the nuts? 
No just make sure next time he comes round you have a plate of chicken just for him, with all the secrets from the colonels secret recipe, paprika, pepper, ssence of optrex eye drops.Cara van Man said:
Regardless of the semantics of smacking, are we all agreed that FCK needs a good, hard kick in the nuts?
No, you should have shot both his parents in the head, double tap executioner style, right in front of him. Then told him it was his fault, that they never loved him anyway, that he was adopted, his real parents were gypsies and that he has a better than average chance of turning ginger.
Justayellowbadge said:
Cara van Man said:
Regardless of the semantics of smacking, are we all agreed that FCK needs a good, hard kick in the nuts?
No, you should have shot both his parents in the head, double tap executioner style, right in front of him. Then told him it was his fault, that they never loved him anyway, that he was adopted, his real parents were gypsies and that he has a better than average chance of turning ginger.
There's discipline, and then there's spite.
Jinx said:
Amateurish said:
If my little girl hits her little brother and I give her a smack for that, what kind of message am I sending.
The message is DON'T HIT YOUR LITTLE BROTHER.
The end.
Any adult with an ounce of common sense only smacks a child hard enough to make them aware that smacking is unpleasant.
That chicken kid sounds like a s
t though! Stooky said:
Jinx said:
Amateurish said:
If my little girl hits her little brother and I give her a smack for that, what kind of message am I sending.
The message is DON'T HIT YOUR LITTLE BROTHER.
The end.
Any adult with an ounce of common sense only smacks a child hard enough to make them aware that smacking is unpleasant.
That chicken kid sounds like a s
t though! i think it would be rare for a parent to smack a kid once and then for that kid to think 'i better not do that (bad thing), i might get a smacks'.
Cara van Man said:
Regardless of the semantics of smacking, are we all agreed that FCK needs a good, hard kick in the nuts?
Yup - namby pamby parenting gets you in the end. Not advocating parenting through violence, but they need an understanding of other people and some empathy. But to be fair, kids do go through phases, so a bit of context would be needed before resorting to a damn good kicking.Bill said:
Soovy said:
Kids needs a good slap a few times to teach them right from wrong.
If they've been taught right from wrong, they won't need a slap. monthefish said:
Bill said:
Soovy said:
Kids needs a good slap a few times to teach them right from wrong.
If they've been taught right from wrong, they won't need a slap. hehe - you lot make me laugh.
Both my kids were 'quite chunky' when they were born, and I suppose in the PH Utopia, they were 'bigger than average' (read:fat) when they first started playgroup. But it was obvious back then, my kids were never going to be like the other little quivering malnourished weeds they were friends with. Both were in the high 90's percentile for their height/weight.
Feeding time was never an issue in our house...they would both happily finish off a plate of whatever was put in front of them.
Happily, when they got to age 6/7 they both shot up in height...to the point that they were now on average half a foot taller than most in their peer group.
Now they are age 12 and 10 respectively, they are over a foot taller than average (my Son, the 12 year old is a freakish 5'7"!!).
The point is, they were quite chunky as little'uns, but as they gained height, they lost the blubber completely (I should point out, they aren't lanky...but they aren't 'fat' either!). Unfortunately, this won't happen with all large kids...but be careful, cos next time you see that fat kid - he may well be taller than you and quite capable of knocking seven shades of st out of you 
Both my kids were 'quite chunky' when they were born, and I suppose in the PH Utopia, they were 'bigger than average' (read:fat) when they first started playgroup. But it was obvious back then, my kids were never going to be like the other little quivering malnourished weeds they were friends with. Both were in the high 90's percentile for their height/weight.
Feeding time was never an issue in our house...they would both happily finish off a plate of whatever was put in front of them.
Happily, when they got to age 6/7 they both shot up in height...to the point that they were now on average half a foot taller than most in their peer group.
Now they are age 12 and 10 respectively, they are over a foot taller than average (my Son, the 12 year old is a freakish 5'7"!!).
The point is, they were quite chunky as little'uns, but as they gained height, they lost the blubber completely (I should point out, they aren't lanky...but they aren't 'fat' either!). Unfortunately, this won't happen with all large kids...but be careful, cos next time you see that fat kid - he may well be taller than you and quite capable of knocking seven shades of s
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