Giving 100%

[Dupont666]

WorAl said:

Rocksteadyeddie said:

Dupont666 said:

Rocksteadyeddie said:

WorAl said:

becksW said:

What are you moaning about at least they haven't asked for you to give 110%!

God I hate that expression.

"We/I gave 110%" No you fking didn't you've just not tried hard enough in the past.

WorAl. You need to watch more talent shows on a Saturday night.

If you're not giving at least 110% then it's not even worth turning up.

So you are saying he should do work at home scheme instead?

It's all about the hours.

I work 18 hours a day, what more do you want?

And still have enough time to spout that foreign language down at DDS... Mackem or something if I think you are who you say you are...

Work from home makes it easier to do work in an environment that you are comfortable in and often results in greater efficience and more work done.

Down side is that unless dying there is no more illness that can stop you from working from home

[Jinx]

Silver993tt said:

Clearly a company employing someone with that attitude made a big mistake in the recruitment of said person in the first place. If someone wants to waste their life "slowly erroding moral by whispering valid complaints amoungst the team until place no longer has an "all in it together" vibe" then they must have a sad life in general. SOunds like a perfect opportunity to send them on their way, quite easily done.

As I said in a previous post, having a job is a priviledge not a right.

If the employee is "working to rule" and is still "doing their job" according to the role outlined in the initial employment contract, then how do you "send them on their way" ? Employing someone is a privilege.

[WorAl]

Dupont666 said:

WorAl said:

Rocksteadyeddie said:

Dupont666 said:

Rocksteadyeddie said:

WorAl said:

becksW said:

What are you moaning about at least they haven't asked for you to give 110%!

God I hate that expression.

"We/I gave 110%" No you fking didn't you've just not tried hard enough in the past.

WorAl. You need to watch more talent shows on a Saturday night.

If you're not giving at least 110% then it's not even worth turning up.

So you are saying he should do work at home scheme instead?

It's all about the hours.

I work 18 hours a day, what more do you want?

And still have enough time to spout that foreign language down at DDS... Mackem or something if I think you are who you say you are...

Work from home makes it easier to do work in an environment that you are comfortable in and often results in greater efficience and more work done.

Down side is that unless dying there is no more illness that can stop you from working from home

Ay? who are you? fking Mackem? MACKEM!?!?! Don't ever call me that again! I've been known to tear men limb from limb for far less than that.

[Jasandjules]

Silver993tt said:

I am in middle management/own my own company

[OnTheOverrun]

Jasandjules said:

Silver993tt said:

I am in middle management/own my own company

If he is either, he won't be for long. Every good manager/proprietor knows their most important business asset is their people, especially the ones giving 100%.

[cal72]

Just had teams weekly buzz session with clients and guess what the whole half hour was a praise to all involved.
Unfortunatly this was from our companies clients rather than our company.
But there was a few buns and plenty of thanks for all.
Best of was that our scores were match to the rest of the national contracts and we were overall the best by over 10%.
This little thanks boosts the moral more than an argos voucher ever could.

[Stevenj214]

Silver993tt said:

Stevenj214 said:

Silver993tt said:

There's a huge recession on and just the fact of being employed and having any kind of income right now is a privilege and will be for a few years yet.

Which is exactly the kind of attitude which leads to the disillusionment of the OP.

Does a recession prevent managers/bosses offering recognition and reward?

I think the only attitude problem is of the OP. It doesn;t take much to see that many are taking pay cuts or actually losing their jobs. If the OP isn't happy, then look elsewhere but I think that he/she will find the grass is rather more brown elsewhere than it used to be.

Recognition and reward is not all about money.

[bonsai]

Anyone else notice that the self proclaimed "100% giving" worker is posting an awful lot during the working day?

[zippy3x]

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cal72 said:

Got a bit of a rant to vent..

After a recent survey on our teams performance we scored 100%.
So where is the rant then.
We fking work hard for our company and for ourselves but i am getting fking sick of usless managers asking for that little bit more and going that extra fking mile. We have not had a fking pay rise in 5years we don't get any annual bonus no fking profit shares there is no fking incentives to be had but they just keep asking for more. Well fk them all.
We work hard and we score 100% last year it was 98% and all they can do is ask for more rather than acknowledge our fking efforts thank us for doing well wait 2 fking weeks before having a go at asking for more. I meen we din't even get a company fking christmas card last year.
Don't get me wrong i enjoy the job i do and after this survey it shows we do work hard and excel in some areas but is it so hard for a company who is in the top ten in its field to take a moment and thank those poor little chaps at the bottom of a ladder as a simple thank you goes a long fking way.

Sorry for all the swearing but does this crap happen to any of you.

To

cal72 said:

Just had teams weekly buzz session with clients and guess what the whole half hour was a praise to all involved.
Unfortunatly this was from our companies clients rather than our company.
But there was a few buns and plenty of thanks for all.
Best of was that our scores were match to the rest of the national contracts and we were overall the best by over 10%.
This little thanks boosts the moral more than an argos voucher ever could.

No fking wonder you've not had a payrise in 5 years. All it takes is some buns and a cuddle.

MTFU

[zippy3x]

bonsai said:

Anyone else notice that the self proclaimed "100% giving" worker is posting an awful lot during the working day?

Actually, to be fair his team was surveyed at 100%, presumably by his bosses/peers

It's not self proclaimed.

[pugwash4x4]

Stevenj214 said:

Silver993tt said:

Stevenj214 said:

Silver993tt said:

There's a huge recession on and just the fact of being employed and having any kind of income right now is a privilege and will be for a few years yet.

Which is exactly the kind of attitude which leads to the disillusionment of the OP.

Does a recession prevent managers/bosses offering recognition and reward?

I think the only attitude problem is of the OP. It doesn;t take much to see that many are taking pay cuts or actually losing their jobs. If the OP isn't happy, then look elsewhere but I think that he/she will find the grass is rather more brown elsewhere than it used to be.

Recognition and reward is not all about money.

resaerch has shown that group experiences are more effective than giving people money- things like painballing, rallying, or just about anything interesting and uncommon is better than money or vouchers!

[Stevenj214]

zippy3x said:

bonsai said:

Anyone else notice that the self proclaimed "100% giving" worker is posting an awful lot during the working day?

Actually, to be fair his team was surveyed at 100%, presumably by his bosses/peers

It's not self proclaimed.

Yup, 100% performance does not necessarily equal 100% effort!

[cal72]

bonsai said:

Anyone else notice that the self proclaimed "100% giving" worker is posting an awful lot during the working day?

[911motorsport]

Silver993tt said:

Pesty said:

Silver993tt said:

I think the only attitude problem is of the OP. It doesn;t take much to see that many are taking pay cuts or actually losing their jobs. If the OP isn't happy, then look elsewhere but I think that he/she will find the grass is rather more brown elsewhere than it used to be.

That still count if the comapny is making record profit? (like mine is with huge bonuses for managment)

What they are doing is using the climate to save money and make themselves more.

Not ethical in my head. Now I am not a communist but if I ran a company I would not act like that.

Just because other companies are cutting wages it should not be used as an excuse to cut yours when there is no need.

do you run your own business 993tt?

I certainly do run my own business. As an example, when I started my business I had zero income for the first five years (not a sinlgle penny). After that we started making a profit and only then could I pay myslef anything at all. Did we pay bonuses? Certainly not because the company (and also me personally) had a huge debts during those 5 years which had to be paid off. Sure, some said where is our bonus because we're making a profit? Little did they understand the investment required before they were part of the company.

There's probably going to be quite a few hard years for most companies and they need to keep as much cash as they can to ride those years out. It's not as simple as saying we've made money this year so let's share it all out and spend it. Companies can't be run that way in times like this.

There are options for those not happy as employees - 1) leave and join another company 2) leave and set up business yourself but be prepared for a big change of lifestyle if you want to have even the most remote chance of success.

But you would have made that clear to any prospective employees surely? That they were signing on for your 'big plan' and rewards would be minimal?

You are Montgomery Burns aIcmfp!

[Stevenj214]

911motorsport said:

Silver993tt said:

Pesty said:

Silver993tt said:

I think the only attitude problem is of the OP. It doesn;t take much to see that many are taking pay cuts or actually losing their jobs. If the OP isn't happy, then look elsewhere but I think that he/she will find the grass is rather more brown elsewhere than it used to be.

That still count if the comapny is making record profit? (like mine is with huge bonuses for managment)

What they are doing is using the climate to save money and make themselves more.

Not ethical in my head. Now I am not a communist but if I ran a company I would not act like that.

Just because other companies are cutting wages it should not be used as an excuse to cut yours when there is no need.

do you run your own business 993tt?

I certainly do run my own business. As an example, when I started my business I had zero income for the first five years (not a sinlgle penny). After that we started making a profit and only then could I pay myslef anything at all. Did we pay bonuses? Certainly not because the company (and also me personally) had a huge debts during those 5 years which had to be paid off. Sure, some said where is our bonus because we're making a profit? Little did they understand the investment required before they were part of the company.

There's probably going to be quite a few hard years for most companies and they need to keep as much cash as they can to ride those years out. It's not as simple as saying we've made money this year so let's share it all out and spend it. Companies can't be run that way in times like this.

There are options for those not happy as employees - 1) leave and join another company 2) leave and set up business yourself but be prepared for a big change of lifestyle if you want to have even the most remote chance of success.

But you would have made that clear to any prospective employees surely? That they were signing on for your 'big plan' and rewards would be minimal?

You are Montgomery Burns aIcmfp!

Yup, in my opinion contracts should either have no bonus or a bonus based on defineable conditions.

Discretionary bonuses are a minefield.

[NobleGuy]

Silver993tt said:

There's a huge recession on and just the fact of being employed and having any kind of income right now is a privilege and will be for a few years yet.

Nah...that's the excuse companies are feeding people while actually making good profits.
It's a great scare tactic. My previous boss went from "Stop moaning because you're lucky to have a job..." to "Oh, don't leave, please, we need you, we can do things to help, you should have asked..." inside a week

[havoc]

Dupont666 said:

Silver993tt said:

cal72 said:

We were supposed to have a 2% pay rise from 1st of august but that hasn't happened.
Our contracts manager is looking into it HA.
After his monthly meet he did ask if we could do a few extra jobs to help the client out a bit more.
So i suppose that if you are at the bottom of the food chain...

Most are taking apay cut, so I really don't see what your problem is. You have a job unlike many and you haven't had a pay cut, lucky you.

Not sure where you are coming from if like some of the posters have complained about the fact that their companies are making profits but still using the recession as an excuse??

That was 2 years ago and the pay cuts and redundancy happened then, they cant/shouldnt keep using that as the excuse for not rewarding success with the majority of the workforce and instead rewarding their managers the success...

That a happy and content workforce does not make...

I suspect 993tt is an employer, and one who doesn't have any respect for his staff.

Agree 100% with the above poster - times ARE still tough, but if a company is back making profits then there's no 'good' reason not to return staff salaries to prior levels, and indeed to start giving pay-rises again.

Sadly, many employers are looking at the shift in the demand/supply relationship in the job market and are using it as an excuse to keep salaries low: WELCOME TO CAPTIALISM!

[Odie]

I recently had an appraisal at my work and got a extremely high score, one of the best in the company, my boss actually described me as amazing. I nearly fell out of my chair as I sometimes really struggle with aspects of my job and am constantly pushed out of my comfort zone.

When he asked I had any questions, I asked for a payrise, he just laughed at me...

So what do I get for my hard work over the last year, a small bonus, a bottle of wine, employee of the month? Nope more responsibility, which is written into my job description, when i asked what im getting out of it im told "skill development"

Thats a really good motivator isnt it...

[snakeswitht1ts]

Stevenj214 said:

Silver993tt said:

Stevenj214 said:

Silver993tt said:

There's a huge recession on and just the fact of being employed and having any kind of income right now is a privilege and will be for a few years yet.

Which is exactly the kind of attitude which leads to the disillusionment of the OP.

Does a recession prevent managers/bosses offering recognition and reward?

I think the only attitude problem is of the OP. It doesn;t take much to see that many are taking pay cuts or actually losing their jobs. If the OP isn't happy, then look elsewhere but I think that he/she will find the grass is rather more brown elsewhere than it used to be.

Recognition and reward is not all about money.

Very true. It seems some employers think they are above a simple " well done, thanks for all your hard work ". Goes a long way to boost morale.

[andyjo1982]

havoc said:

Dupont666 said:

Silver993tt said:

cal72 said:

We were supposed to have a 2% pay rise from 1st of august but that hasn't happened.
Our contracts manager is looking into it HA.
After his monthly meet he did ask if we could do a few extra jobs to help the client out a bit more.
So i suppose that if you are at the bottom of the food chain...

Most are taking apay cut, so I really don't see what your problem is. You have a job unlike many and you haven't had a pay cut, lucky you.

Not sure where you are coming from if like some of the posters have complained about the fact that their companies are making profits but still using the recession as an excuse??

That was 2 years ago and the pay cuts and redundancy happened then, they cant/shouldnt keep using that as the excuse for not rewarding success with the majority of the workforce and instead rewarding their managers the success...

That a happy and content workforce does not make...

I suspect 993tt is an employer, and one who doesn't have any respect for his staff.

Agree 100% with the above poster - times ARE still tough, but if a company is back making profits then there's no 'good' reason not to return staff salaries to prior levels, and indeed to start giving pay-rises again.

Sadly, many employers are looking at the shift in the demand/supply relationship in the job market and are using it as an excuse to keep salaries low: WELCOME TO CAPTIALISM!

Indeed, S993tt are you my boss? You sound tight as aholes and its this whole managerial stance of not increasing wages which is gonna to struggle to get the conomy going again.

Also i think s993tt should read the original post again, hes not asking for more money, just a bit of recognition for the work done so far which sounds as if it cannot be done much better.

In our place there are far too many emails saying thianks which are sent on departments of 10-20 people. Thats bks, that doesn't mean st to anyone. Staff can live without massive bonuses and wage rises as such, but a little one-one communication and feedback/recognition goes a long way towards imporving moral. My boss barely says morning to his staff, let alone talk on a one to one basis. We've just had 2 record months of sales and, over 120 staff we had an email saying thanks to everyone (regardless of whether you had done you job to the max or done any voluntary overtime etc).