Giving 100%

[unpc]

Maybe it's my contractor's mentality but I really don't understand all this whinging. If you don't like your job, get another one. Surely you all have the ability to work elsewhere? How hard can it be? I've had many jobs that I hated. I left them and went to another and it didn't kill me. Obviously.

[becksW]

Odie said:

I recently had an appraisal at my work and got a extremely high score, one of the best in the company, my boss actually described me as amazing. I nearly fell out of my chair as I sometimes really struggle with aspects of my job and am constantly pushed out of my comfort zone.

When he asked I had any questions, I asked for a payrise, he just laughed at me...

So what do I get for my hard work over the last year, a small bonus, a bottle of wine, employee of the month? Nope more responsibility, which is written into my job description, when i asked what im getting out of it im told "skill development"

Thats a really good motivator isnt it...

I'm lucky that I now work in a place where the boss expects very high standards etc but we are better paid than many in my field, she is good and acknowledging a job done well and recently was offering £50 reward for ideas that benefited work. I love working too the high standard for own pride anyway but it makes it so much better when you have an appreciative boss.

Concentrate on those skills and take pride in your own work and the fact that they have recognised your efforts even if they are not actually rewarding you in a monetry/ bonus way. Those skills will offer a wider choice if you want to move on later.

[Poledriver]

Unfortunately this is true!



What Makes 100%? What does it mean to give MORE than 100%? Ever wonder
about those people who say they are giving more than 100%? We have all
been to those meetings where someone wants you to give over 100%. How about
achieving 103%? What makes up 100% in life?

Here's a little mathematical formula that might help you answer these questions:

If:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

is represented as:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.

Then:

H-A-R-D-W-O-R-K

8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98%

and

K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E

11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96%

But,

A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E

1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100%

And,

B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T

2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103%

AND, look how far ass kissing will take you.

A-S-S-K-I-S-S-I-N-G


1+19+19+11+9+19+19+9+14+7 = 118%


So, one can conclude with

mathematical certainty, that while Hard work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will get you there, it's the Bullst and Ass Kissing that will put you over the top.

[cal72]

I have no desire to change jobs.
My gripe is that the team worked hard to gain results from the clients survey that we scored 100%.
My contract manager had his monthly meeting yesterday and was told of the survey score but he failed to pass on any good feedback and he failed to even mention anything regarding the survey at all. However he did have a couple of stupid ideas that he thought could be implemented to further help the client.After years on this site myself and the rest of the team have come up with allsorts cost saving ideas to the client that has been rolled out nationaly.
But to me all he was trying to do is get a few brownie points off the survey results that he could take away with him to his boss.
Down side is i have more loyalty to the client and thier staff than i do the company that employes me.

[Dupont666]

unpc said:

Maybe it's my contractor's mentality but I really don't understand all this whinging. If you don't like your job, get another one. Surely you all have the ability to work elsewhere? How hard can it be? I've had many jobs that I hated. I left them and went to another and it didn't kill me. Obviously.

Difference is:

Contract = get paid lots more, for doing it for the money so put up or leave, money drives you... you are already in the contract market and so the jump has already been done, may people are scared to do so.

Permie = job stability (supposedly), no desire to move and never have a long term job at the same company, cant afford to be out of work, like to think company loyalty to its staff.

Its a very different person that simply leaves to go contracting.

[andyjo1982]

Poledriver said:

Unfortunately this is true!



What Makes 100%? What does it mean to give MORE than 100%? Ever wonder
about those people who say they are giving more than 100%? We have all
been to those meetings where someone wants you to give over 100%. How about
achieving 103%? What makes up 100% in life?

Here's a little mathematical formula that might help you answer these questions:

If:

A B C D E F G H I J K L M N O P Q R S T U V W X Y Z

is represented as:

1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26.

Then:

H-A-R-D-W-O-R-K

8+1+18+4+23+15+18+11 = 98%

and

K-N-O-W-L-E-D-G-E

11+14+15+23+12+5+4+7+5 = 96%

But,

A-T-T-I-T-U-D-E

1+20+20+9+20+21+4+5 = 100%

And,

B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T

2+21+12+12+19+8+9+20 = 103%

AND, look how far ass kissing will take you.

A-S-S-K-I-S-S-I-N-G


1+19+19+11+9+19+19+9+14+7 = 118%


So, one can conclude with

mathematical certainty, that while Hard work and Knowledge will get you close, and Attitude will get you there, it's the Bullst and Ass Kissing that will put you over the top.

Now being circulated about the office, with numerous laugh out loud moments, the above is so so true. Also amazing what a set of golf clubs can get you these days...

[Ewan S]

Look at it this way, with every new skill you're expected to take on and learn without any relevant increase in pay, makes you that much more employable to someone else than the next bloke.

Managers are frequently looking out for themselves first and those below them second. My previous boss claimed to his superiors that all the hard work that literally turned the company around was down to him. Actually it was because of me. When they kept him on and let the rest of us go, I utilised a very valid lesson, which basically goes that if employers want to take the piss, why not take the piss out of them by taking everything you can from the situation (training, and new skills etc) and then taking yourself elsewhere. I may have been unemployed for 3 months, but I got a job interview pretty much every week of those 3 months by having about 8 different CV's showing different skills and experiences. Most people can't do that, but I planned for a rainy day and it worked out really well.

Fortunately I work somewhere nice right now, but I'm still eager to learn as much as I can just in case it all goes pear shaped again.

[Odie]

becksW said:

Odie said:

I recently had an appraisal at my work and got a extremely high score, one of the best in the company, my boss actually described me as amazing. I nearly fell out of my chair as I sometimes really struggle with aspects of my job and am constantly pushed out of my comfort zone.

When he asked I had any questions, I asked for a payrise, he just laughed at me...

So what do I get for my hard work over the last year, a small bonus, a bottle of wine, employee of the month? Nope more responsibility, which is written into my job description, when i asked what im getting out of it im told "skill development"

Thats a really good motivator isnt it...

I'm lucky that I now work in a place where the boss expects very high standards etc but we are better paid than many in my field, she is good and acknowledging a job done well and recently was offering £50 reward for ideas that benefited work. I love working too the high standard for own pride anyway but it makes it so much better when you have an appreciative boss.

Concentrate on those skills and take pride in your own work and the fact that they have recognised your efforts even if they are not actually rewarding you in a monetry/ bonus way. Those skills will offer a wider choice if you want to move on later.

Your a manager arent you?

[Cara van Man]

4/10

Please see me.

[bonsai]

Ewan S said:

Look at it this way, with every new skill you're expected to take on and learn without any relevant increase in pay, makes you that much more employable to someone else than the next bloke.

Managers are frequently looking out for themselves first and those below them second. My previous boss claimed to his superiors that all the hard work that literally turned the company around was down to him. Actually it was because of me. When they kept him on and let the rest of us go, I utilised a very valid lesson, which basically goes that if employers want to take the piss, why not take the piss out of them by taking everything you can from the situation (training, and new skills etc) and then taking yourself elsewhere. I may have been unemployed for 3 months, but I got a job interview pretty much every week of those 3 months by having about 8 different CV's showing different skills and experiences. Most people can't do that, but I planned for a rainy day and it worked out really well.

Fortunately I work somewhere nice right now, but I'm still eager to learn as much as I can just in case it all goes pear shaped again.

Has enough time passed for you to be able to talk about the Caravan Club interview?

Edited by bonsai on Friday 6th August 14:15

[unpc]

Dupont666 said:

unpc said:

Maybe it's my contractor's mentality but I really don't understand all this whinging. If you don't like your job, get another one. Surely you all have the ability to work elsewhere? How hard can it be? I've had many jobs that I hated. I left them and went to another and it didn't kill me. Obviously.

Difference is:

Contract = get paid lots more, for doing it for the money so put up or leave, money drives you... you are already in the contract market and so the jump has already been done, may people are scared to do so.

Permie = job stability (supposedly), no desire to move and never have a long term job at the same company, cant afford to be out of work, like to think company loyalty to its staff.

Its a very different person that simply leaves to go contracting.

Strangely I'm about the only contractor that's not driven by money but I take your point. I am generally mystified by people's reluctance to move jobs, even when treated like st. Perhaps if more people did, employers might treat their staff with a bit more respect? I mean, if you could get away with trampling all over your minions or lavishing praise and gifts, most employers will take the former.

[Engineer1]

Changing job isn't always as easy as some people make out.

[Silver993tt]

Engineer1 said:

Changing job isn't always as easy as some people make out.

why is that then?

[unpc]

Engineer1 said:

Changing job isn't always as easy as some people make out.

It doesn't need to be that difficult. Problem is a lot of people lack the will to make the change.

[unpc]

anonymous said:

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Not sure what BR's response is, but my reaction would be to find another job and tell them where to stick theirs. What's so hard about that?

[zippy3x]

anonymous said:

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TBH - your own fault for believing it.

Every bonus scheme i've ever been involved with was instigated to make people work harder and calculated to pay as little as possible.

I also in my permie days had a similar situation to yours, when the company bought a new 911 for the MD, which unfortunately pushed profit to below the threshold for the bonus - unfortunate that.
However, as I'd seen it coming and done fk all extra work, I didn't feel cheated.

[Dick_Phallus]

anonymous said:

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Just curious, but what is your situation with regards to family/financial commitments. I can see why someone with young children, mortgage or in relatively low paying jobs where you're not going to have a nice little rainy day fund will mean an unspecified period of unemployment is a pretty massive risk. Also remember most jobs aren't really suitable to 'contracting'.

[zippy3x]

anonymous said:

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When I jacked in my permie job and went contracting my situation was:

no savings. Hand to mouth lifestyle where there was no money left at the end of the month.
3 kids, wife, 2 cars, 2 rabbits, 1 goldfish.

was a massive risk - worked my tits off for first 3 months to get extended, did same for a further nine months until the plug was pulled on the project, which had given me enough saving to last 3 months.

not looked back since.

IMHO either - sit back and take it, or do something about it. Just don't sit back, do nothing and moan.

[Nickellarse]

I think that all those who complain about lack of bonus should get together and start their own company.

[Dick_Phallus]

anonymous said:

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