Glad I was born when I was (long time ago)
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Tiggsy said:
alock said:
mr_tony said:
lots of sensible stuff
I've believed this for ages and tried to convince my parents how lucky they have been. My dad bought a huge 4 bedroom house on 1/2 acre of land in 1983 when in his late 30's. It's in a very good village in Hampshire and it only cost him 11 times the average salary. Average salary £7700, house price £83K.Now the average salary is £31K and a similar house is approaching £700K. I'm rapidly approaching my late 30's and equally can afford a house at 11x the average salary, i.e. £350K. That will just about get me a tiny link-detached 4 bedroom house in the same village with a pathetic excuse for a garden.
Some right old whiners on this thread. There is NEVER a better time to born than now. A kid born today will live to 100...so what if they retire at 75 - that still gives them more years after work than someone going at 65 today and being dead at 70.
SO what if you dont get a £700k house at 25...you get experiences your folks couldn't have dreamed of.
When I was 21 I bought my first house - 3 bed detached. Much smaller than my dads house.....but I went to New York that year, for xmas shopping...then bought a brand new 200sx. At 21 my dad got his first bicycle!
My own kids have better health care, more access to sports/entertainment and better education than I had....I envy their opportunity and I dont doubt they will feel the same about their kids.
There have been lots of stories that the post-war babies will have the longest life expectancy. I don't necessarily agree with this, but to state that kids born today can expect to live to 100 has no scientific data behind it.
This isn't an argument of how entrepreneurial people are. Just because you bought something that your dad didn't is irrelevant. What's relevant is what is available to equally successful people. How much was your 200sx and what was the average salary? How much was the equivalent car 30 years earlier compared to the average salary?
The reality is that 40 years ago, a lower middle class man could expect to find a job for life and afford a comfortable 3/4 bed semi in suburbia.
As someone who was born in 1987 and looking at factual information from the 60s and 70s I can positively state I wish I was born in the 60s.
Concorde
Vulcan
Harrier
Jaguar E-Type
British Engineering
Ford GT
Group B rally
Less Immigrants
Less risk of Terrorism (Bloody IRA)
Less Rules and Regulations
From the 90's onwards its all gone downhill IMO
Edit to include:
Concorde
Vulcan
Harrier
Jaguar E-Type
British Engineering
Ford GT
Group B rally
Less Immigrants
Less risk of Terrorism (Bloody IRA)
Less Rules and Regulations
From the 90's onwards its all gone downhill IMO
Edit to include:
Edited by Petrolhead_Rich on Monday 18th October 12:24
alock said:
The reality is that 40 years ago, a lower middle class man could expect to find a job for life and afford a comfortable 3/4 bed semi in suburbia.
What sort of measure of anything is that????There are opportunity for those lower middle class men today that their dads couldn't dream of.
Petrolhead_Rich said:
As someone who was born in 1987 and looking at factual information from the 60s and 70s I can positively state I wish I was born in the 60s.
Concorde
Vulcan
Harrier
Jaguar E-Type
British Engineering
Ford GT
Group B rally
Less Immigrants
Less risk of Terrorism (Bloody IRA)
Less Rules and Regulations
From the 90's onwards its all gone downhill IMO
Thats just a "list of things i like" .... you could as easily do one today and stick Ipad on it instead of group B rallying.Concorde
Vulcan
Harrier
Jaguar E-Type
British Engineering
Ford GT
Group B rally
Less Immigrants
Less risk of Terrorism (Bloody IRA)
Less Rules and Regulations
From the 90's onwards its all gone downhill IMO
In fact half your things are things you (most people) are never likely to interact with anyway (fly on Concorde much?) or are Daily Mail issues, not the majorities.
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