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Jinx said:
walm said:
No because "kilo" comes from the Greek khilloi meaning thousand!!!!
As I said the Kilogramme was poorly named as it was the singular defined measure. Hence all bets were off as kilogramme = 1Go back to calling it the grave then, I doubt you'll be beheaded for it in the 21st century.
xRIEx said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMByI4s-D-Y
Go back to calling it the grave then, I doubt you'll be beheaded for it in the 21st century.
Sounds good to me - conventions are such malleable things and not anything more than that (no right/wrong merely right/wrong at the time) . Go back to calling it the grave then, I doubt you'll be beheaded for it in the 21st century.
Jinx said:
walm said:
No because "kilo" comes from the Greek khilloi meaning thousand!!!!
As I said the Kilogramme was poorly named as it was the singular defined measure. Hence all bets were off as kilogramme = 1The gram came first (1795) - then they made the IPK (1799).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilogram
"The gram was originally defined in 1795 as the mass of one cubic centimeter of water at the melting point of water, making the kilogram equal to the mass of one liter of water. The original prototype kilogram, manufactured in 1799 and from which the IPK is derived, had a mass equal to the mass of 1.000025 liters of water at 4 °C."
Jinx said:
xRIEx said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZMByI4s-D-Y
Go back to calling it the grave then, I doubt you'll be beheaded for it in the 21st century.
Sounds good to me - conventions are such malleable things and not anything more than that (no right/wrong merely right/wrong at the time) . Go back to calling it the grave then, I doubt you'll be beheaded for it in the 21st century.
Jinx said:
Just because ignorance is prevalent these days does not mean the definitions have to change.
Which is it?
walm said:
You would have a point if you were right but I think you are wrong.
The gram came first (1795) - then they made the IPK (1799).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilogram
"The gram was originally defined in 1795 as the mass of one cubic centimeter of water at the melting point of water, making the kilogram equal to the mass of one liter of water. The original prototype kilogram, manufactured in 1799 and from which the IPK is derived, had a mass equal to the mass of 1.000025 liters of water at 4 °C."
So a KG of water is actually more than a litre...?The gram came first (1795) - then they made the IPK (1799).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilogram
"The gram was originally defined in 1795 as the mass of one cubic centimeter of water at the melting point of water, making the kilogram equal to the mass of one liter of water. The original prototype kilogram, manufactured in 1799 and from which the IPK is derived, had a mass equal to the mass of 1.000025 liters of water at 4 °C."
Uhoh...
Jinx said:
JonRB said:
But it *is* incorrect and was always incorrect. By ISO standards, the prefix kilo- means "1000x". It was never correct to redefine kilo- to mean "1024x" when applied to bits and bytes.
Yes, for sure we got used to remembering, but when computing was opened up to a wider audience of non-technical users it was always going to cause confusion. This has removed that confusion.
You're more than welcome to continue the old ways and make any personal definition (or symlink or typedef) that you want. Just don't try to tell me it's nonsense when quite clearly it isn't. What is nonsense is having different definitions of the word "kilo" depending on context.
ISO smiso - the only ISO I care about is ISO 3103Yes, for sure we got used to remembering, but when computing was opened up to a wider audience of non-technical users it was always going to cause confusion. This has removed that confusion.
You're more than welcome to continue the old ways and make any personal definition (or symlink or typedef) that you want. Just don't try to tell me it's nonsense when quite clearly it isn't. What is nonsense is having different definitions of the word "kilo" depending on context.
Edited by JonRB on Thursday 5th February 08:39
Kilobyte was used to describe 1024 bytes - that was what it was defined as. In fact Kilogramme was a misnomer in the first place. The gramme had no definition when it was created except as 1/1000th of the Kilogramme - it was a relative measure. So it would make more sense to define gramme as meaning 1/1000th of something than to define "kilo" as meaning a 1000 (because kilogramme was the individual defined measure) .
We had issues for a while a couple of years back with provisioned datastores for virtual infrastructure being smaller than they should be by the time they had made their way to host assignment. Turns out it had all be carved up in Gigabytes as we asked, rather than Gibibytes as the disks are sold and arranged. Strangely when we started using the correct nomenclature the disks came out at the right size, extra blocks of bytes included
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