Gun Pawn - Warning - Lots of Pictures - as requested

[FurtiveFreddy]

Pesty said:

Some ones. I've seen them. May have been a special order requested by a police department or after market however I have seen them there are blocks with external manual safety levers.

Like this?

[Pesty]

Yes like that. I think glock also submitted a pistol for the us army that may have had a safety like that as it was a requirement to get to the trials. Looks st don't it.

[FurtiveFreddy]

That pic is an aftermarket add-on. Glock did make some with thumb safeties from the factory for some Police forces around the world who requested it and they may have shown one to the MOD when they trying to win a UK Army contract, but I'm pretty sure they never offered them to the open market.

I'm sure there will be plenty of people who will debate trigger vs. external safety on a carry/service pistol. Personally, I don't really think there's a major issue either way. As long as you keep control, the shot will go in the intended direction. If you are out of control, an external safety might save you, but prevention is better than cure.

[Pesty]

I just said that I was only trying to clarify somebody else's question that didn't make sense.

No issue with glocks lack of manual safety or other striker pistols they were designed like that for a reason.

[Bill]

Pesty said:

No magazine, 1911s are designed to be carried like that. However safety is off. It's probably empty and he's been playing with it right out of the shop in the car.

None of that's reassuring. I'd assumed he should drop the hammer as a matter of routine to show it's safe.

[dudleybloke]

How Russians play Beethoven!

https://youtu.be/NNFlAzVhSVw

[robsa]

5ohmustang said:

A friends new Springfield 1911 45acp. After taxes and military discount, $600.

Hmm, very nice indeed. I am no gun expert, but I have a mate who is a bit keen on such things and legally owns pistols in the UK. He says that the .45ACP is one of the best for putting people down and stopping them getting up again (I asked him as research for a book).

[Pesty]

Oh god please no, don't do it not that can of worms.


You are lucky thus isn't a gun website.

[HD Adam]

robsa said:

5ohmustang said:

A friends new Springfield 1911 45acp. After taxes and military discount, $600.

Hmm, very nice indeed. I am no gun expert, but I have a mate who is a bit keen on such things and legally owns pistols in the UK. He says that the .45ACP is one of the best for putting people down and stopping them getting up again (I asked him as research for a book).

That's an age old thing and probably goes back to when older "hotter" 9mm rounds would just zip through people and not cause much damage unless it went though something vital.

Modern 9mm hollow point is faster than a .45 and just as deadly as in it makes a nasty hole when it tumbles.



The best thing for putting someone down is something you can aim & fire accurately.

That might be a big .45 or may not be.

[Pesty]

anonymous said:

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If you are talking about the glock it's not a safety in the sense you are talking. Iirc it blocks the striker from contacting the primer on the cartridge I.e stops the pistol going off if dropped etc but pul the trigger it goes bang.


See robsa see what you've done.

[vxmatt]

This seems as good a place as any to ask

I've got a GAMO PT85 CO2 pistol http://www.gamousa.com/product.aspx?product=PT-85%... (I know it's not as impressive as other people's stuff in this thread)

I've shot around 1000 rounds through it and cant help but think it could do with a clean.

The question is how would I go about cleaning it?

Any thoughts?

Cheers

Matt

[telecat]

Most Federal Agencies are using 10mm or .40 S&W cartridges although Certain FBI tactical teams prefer the 10MM auto.

[HD Adam]

vxmatt said:

This seems as good a place as any to ask

I've got a GAMO PT85 CO2 pistol http://www.gamousa.com/product.aspx?product=PT-85%... (I know it's not as impressive as other people's stuff in this thread)

I've shot around 1000 rounds through it and cant help but think it could do with a clean.

The question is how would I go about cleaning it?

Any thoughts?

Cheers

Matt

On the very same site that you linked to is a cleaning kit for your pistol.

http://www.gamousa.com/product.aspx?productID=86

I'd use that or something similar.

[Pesty]

telecat said:

Most Federal Agencies are using 10mm or .40 S&W cartridges although Certain FBI tactical teams prefer the 10MM auto.

10mm is best MM and no federal agencies use it I'm pretty sure of that. Women can't handle it hense short and weak.

However the fbi have just switched back to 9mm as their testing says modern 9mm hp are just as effective as anything else these days.

[vxmatt]

HD Adam said:

On the very same site that you linked to is a cleaning kit for your pistol.

http://www.gamousa.com/product.aspx?productID=86

I'd use that or something similar.

Nice one mate, I'd only posted the link to show what gun I was talking about, maybe I should have read the site properly first!

Have ordered a similar kit off ebay so no doubt I'll be back to ask more stupid questions once its arrived.

[telecat]

Pesty said:

telecat said:

Most Federal Agencies are using 10mm or .40 S&W cartridges although Certain FBI tactical teams prefer the 10MM auto.

10mm is best MM and no federal agencies use it I'm pretty sure of that. Women can't handle it hense short and weak.

However the fbi have just switched back to 9mm as their testing says modern 9mm hp are just as effective as anything else these days.

Got to think that £80 Million Dollars is a lot of money to re-equip the FBI because they can't shoot as straight as they used to. Why not use the FN 5.7?? Extra rounds and even less recoil.

Edited by telecat on Sunday 25th September 18:26

Edited by telecat on Sunday 25th September 18:27

[andy_s]

telecat said:

Pesty said:

telecat said:

Most Federal Agencies are using 10mm or .40 S&W cartridges although Certain FBI tactical teams prefer the 10MM auto.

10mm is best MM and no federal agencies use it I'm pretty sure of that. Women can't handle it hense short and weak.

However the fbi have just switched back to 9mm as their testing says modern 9mm hp are just as effective as anything else these days.

Got to think that £80 Million Dollars is a lot of money to re-equip the FBI because they can't shoot as straight as they used to.

'Stopping power' being one element of course - but you have to get it on target first - a 9mm has generally less recoil and a larger mag capacity for when you miss - which is most of the time.

I always liked the .40 as a calibre though, a good compromise and as easy to handle as 9mm (when not in isosco/weaver anyway).

Can open, worms everywhere

[HD Adam]

Just realised looking back that I hadn't actually posted a picture of my "little friend"

Walther PPQ 9mm

[HD Adam]

5ohmustang said:

Interesting how the magazine release is a totally different design to the pps. Which ppq is it?

It's the M2.

They went back to a traditional thumb button for the mag release and mine is on the other side as I am right handed.

Much better pic & info from the Walther site.

[mybrainhurts]

Why has the thread title changed to include an incorrect use of the word "pawn"?

I think the OP mistyped porn as pron. Correction should be porn.

Carry on...