Gun Pawn - Warning - Lots of Pictures - as requested
Discussion
jimmyjimjim said:
Probably not; I never found armed policemen approachable in any way!
I've shot the Glock 17 several times, along with the 17L, and always found it a little too big for my hands (hoping the replaceable backstraps help there, and the smaller 19 as well, obviously). I'm amused to find the FN and the Glock 17 are both lighter than the .22 Walther.
Dry weight it's close. The walther has a LOT of metal (especially with the compensator - of course with the compensator it's like shooting a low power air gun) Put a full mag in the 17 and I would say it's a tad heavier than the P22 and close with the P22 with compensator.I've shot the Glock 17 several times, along with the 17L, and always found it a little too big for my hands (hoping the replaceable backstraps help there, and the smaller 19 as well, obviously). I'm amused to find the FN and the Glock 17 are both lighter than the .22 Walther.
The FN, again, gains some weight with the full mag but is nice and light without it.
Honestly, I've never handled either of them at the same time. Not much for dual wielding.
jimmyjimjim said:
Must have been on the beeb, because it was clearly a s
t documentary; the slide is steel, for a start.
However, reporting back on other experimenters: http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2010/12/awesome-t...
I remember that.t documentary; the slide is steel, for a start.However, reporting back on other experimenters: http://israelmatzav.blogspot.com/2010/12/awesome-t...
Interesting US law on firearms and flying. You can take your firearm with you in checked baggage. It has to be locked in a case that cannot be easily opened and unloaded. Ammo may be carried in the same case. Finally, nobody but you should be able to access it (in other words - no TSA locks)
I know a few gun owners that actually check their guns in a big case, with all of their other travelling items in the same case, just to keep TSA out of their stuff.
Personally, whenever possible, I drive. Not just because of the firearms thing but also because (1)I enjoy driving and (2)I don't enjoy being groped by strangers
ShiggyBiggs said:
Dont come to Northern Ireland then lol. They all have glocks, check points and the like usually have at least 1 with a rifle or sub machine gun. Not too long ago I got stopped with a mate going into belfast, got asked to step out, no problem. While standing there we had a guy kneeling down behind a wall across the street pointing an mp5 at us and a guy standing about a foot away from me behind a landrover door pointing what looked to be a g3 right in my face.
Lots of H&K based stuff in use in Northern Ireland. At a distance, it's difficult to tell them apart. If he had a scope on it, my money would have been on a PSG1 (or variant). None scope and it was probably a G3 (or variant)
Pesty said:
SPeaking of Bren tens are VLTOR ever going to bring it out? was supposed to be on sale last year. Any of you get to Shot show 11 and see the VLTOR stand?
ps are you sure it wasn't a 1006? oh and in pilot he used a sig p220 I think
The latest info I have on the VLTOR Fortis (Bren Ten)ps are you sure it wasn't a 1006? oh and in pilot he used a sig p220 I think
http://vltor.wordpress.com/
At this point, people that want to shoot 10mm should probably go Colt Delta Elite or Glock 20 or 29.
Jimbeaux said:
I am off to one of the indoor ranges here in town this Friday. I don't have the collection Ernest is packing, I own five firearms. If anyone is in my zipcode though, shooting is on me! Range fees are around $20 for all day. Ammo and targets a bit more.
The massive Bass pro shops have ranges inside the stores. They have the family shooting plan. $100 a year to shoot all one wishes. Now that's a deal.
Our local Gander Mountain just got this... Range fees are around $20 for all day. Ammo and targets a bit more. The massive Bass pro shops have ranges inside the stores. They have the family shooting plan. $100 a year to shoot all one wishes. Now that's a deal.
https://academy.gandermountain.com/
Mrs says to me just yesterday "Why don't we do that Gander Mountain shooting thingy for Valentines Day?"
Am I lucky or what?
She'll get some roses on the day
[AJ] said:
BruceV8 said:
True. But my favourite handgun predates even that.
The Webley .455 - in this case a Mk VI.
I fired a friend's live one a few times before the ban, and I used to have a deactivated one. Wish I'd never sold it. They are just soaked in British military and imperial history and should have the same place in our hearts that the Colt single action revolvers have in America.
But, of course, they don't.
I can remember playing with one of those when I was a kid. Beautiful, but heavy I remember.The Webley .455 - in this case a Mk VI.
I fired a friend's live one a few times before the ban, and I used to have a deactivated one. Wish I'd never sold it. They are just soaked in British military and imperial history and should have the same place in our hearts that the Colt single action revolvers have in America.
But, of course, they don't.
BruceV8 said:
They used to go for a few hundred quid, pre 1997.Hmm. Must add guns to my list of things to export to the US.
List so far:
1. 25 year old Land Rovers.
2. Old British guns.
I suspect that this might be a bit trickier than it first appears.
BruceV8 said:
I knew old cars are feasible and can be profitable - didn't know about the guns though.
I might seriously look into this.
To fetch that price thay have to be 98% (and must be as close to oem as makes no difference, no rebuilds from spare parts). However, I have seen some 60% - 70% stuff go for $3k to $4kI might seriously look into this.
Gun collecting is serious business in the US.
Jimbeaux said:
redtwin said:
What about it?. Have I missed something.
A local thing. If I am not mistaken, that county is comprised of "Da Hood". Did I mistake that with another Ernest?Broward can be "the Hood" (in certain areas) - or, I could take a stab at Little Havanah (North Miami) - but they would have me outgunned. Great cuban sandwiches though!
Manks said:
Whilst I don't approve of you gun-toting maniacs, I am surprised that this has not come up: 
Well, you can't get those, but you can get semi-auto versions of these...
Company even sells a semi-auto ma deuce (some Floridians mount them on their bass boats - I kid you not)...
http://www.tnwfirearms.com/index.shtml
redtwin said:
About 10 mins later a Sheriff's Deputy rolled slowly by the shop, rolled down his window, then drove away without bothering to stop. Just another day, eh?.
Little Havana is safe enough. Liberty City and Overtown are the ones you need to steer of. Agree with you on the Medianoches though, yum.
That sounds like Orange County on an Orange Blossom Trail response. Except they wouldn't have rolled down their windows. And the call would have taken 20 minutes...Little Havana is safe enough. Liberty City and Overtown are the ones you need to steer of. Agree with you on the Medianoches though, yum.
Mojocvh said:
Jimbeaux said:
Yes. Few have ever topped Uncle Browning's designs.
^^^^^^^^^^^ If there were ever to be "the" pistol, that would be it.
Big slow bullets do the business.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Ite...
TVR1 said:
ErnestM said:
CAR is a very good method. Practicing it in the US (especially the close in firing part) would get you thrown off of most ranges in the US (due to the parochial "4 rules" nature of most rangemasters)
Nice form in the piccie.
Ernest, being but an amateur in these things, what is the difference between CAR and Weaver stance? The only thing I can see is that CAR has the shoulder held further back to keep the gun closer to the body. Sorry if that sounds like a dumb question but if I don't ask, I won't know!Nice form in the piccie.
Ed
A more apt question would be what is the difference between CAR and Jeff Cooper's "Modern Technique of the Pistol". IMHO the CAR system is more of a tactical philosophy than Cooper's. Though not a definitive work, Wiki does have some good information on Cooper's stuff
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Technique_of_t...
The links earlier can take you to some good info on CAR.
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