Ever wanted access to all those toilets?
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Chainguy said:
My dad has a disabled badge. He needs it. He picked up a nasty injury while fighting for this country many years ago. The march of time means that as he has aged, the injury, which never really healed right all those years ago, has gotten far, far worse. Pretty lousy to see a proud man who now cant walk more than 20 yeards unaided struggle on.
We clubbed together...
My eyes began to open wider as I started to read the above paragraph. Turns out it wasn't what I thought it was.We clubbed together...
Just thought I'd mention that in a supermarket car park, I always park WHEREVER I want. Disabled bays, wide bays, parent & child bays, the trolley stand you name it! Fact is, road markings on private land are menaingless. Sure I get ticketed one in a while, but I always ignore and never pay up. Selfish you say? Not really. These bays are hardly ever completely used up. Even if they are, it's hardly going to kill a disabled person to hobble 20 yards instead of 10. As far the wide bays go (eg the chap earlier who mentioned about his dad and the scooter), the "park where you like" attitude works both ways. If he ever finds there are none of these bays available, he should simply park using 2 regular bays.
I am completely unashamed of where I park, whereas the supermarkets should be for attempting to extort a £70 "fine" from me just because they don't like it!
I am completely unashamed of where I park, whereas the supermarkets should be for attempting to extort a £70 "fine" from me just because they don't like it!
Depends on how many of the bad boys your on and I have also seen a difference between the suger coated ones and white ones.
At the mo I'm on 12 (60mg) so quite a high dose and aside from the normal eating like a beast and hypers I've noticed this time round being older it really effecting my sleep ( been up since 4 this morning), my head being properly messed up which is hard to explain and also the most vivid and bizarre dreams I've ever had!
At the mo I'm on 12 (60mg) so quite a high dose and aside from the normal eating like a beast and hypers I've noticed this time round being older it really effecting my sleep ( been up since 4 this morning), my head being properly messed up which is hard to explain and also the most vivid and bizarre dreams I've ever had!
JuniorD said:
Sure why not just wait around the bog for someone with a genuine need for a RADAR key to come along and when they gain access to the toilet just bail in ahead of them and shut the door in their face! It's not like they are going to get through the door first, they're disabled! Don't worry about their feelings - they either don't have feelings or are used to adversity anyway.
Pommygranite said:
Whe I was in the UK recently I was astounded by the number of disabled parking spaces there were both in streets and at supermarkets.
You're not wrong. I had to drop off a hire car at our local airport and was stunned to see a line of disabled parking spaces stretching almost the length of the terminal building. FFS there aren't that many disabled drivers in the county, let alone who would be requiring a parking bay at the airport.Famous Graham said:
MGZRod said:
Do you use disabled spaces too at supermarkets?
I know I bit there, but it posses me off and is not very respectful at all.
Cobblers. I know I bit there, but it posses me off and is not very respectful at all.
If there's no one in the pub requiring use if the disabled loo, then I'll quite happily use them.
Ditto the reserved seats in buses - if no one elderly is getting on, I'll sit there.
They're preferential, NOT proscribed.
No idea what this RADAR thing is, tho.
But the thing is, you can't see from across a pub who's got MS and only marginal control over their bowel (and yes, might still be able to walk pretty well), or who's got a colostomy bag and needs a bit of space and a sink they can reach from the loo to sort it out properly. More so if it's leaked. Which they do.
I have a permanent (supra-pubic; a surgically inserted one through my abdominal wall) catheter which drains into a bag strapped to my leg. As it's strapped to my leg, which I can't really move, I don't always realise when it's getting full until my bladder is also full. My bladder doesn't really work as a bladder any more. Which is to say, once I realise I need to empty the bag, it's an absolute maximum of 2 or 3 minutes until it's too late. Same is true of loads of people and not all of them have the handy wheelchair to identify them as worthy users of a disabled toilet.
Please for f
k's sake don't further reduce my chances of getting to the loo on time, that particular problem is enough of a bh to live with as it is.el stovey said:
What I'm surprised by is that anyone able bodied is that unable to avoid getting caught short that they need to buy a special key designed for handicapped people.
Of course they are not. I'm hoping that having read the examples here the OP has realised that the key should be filed away until he actually is disabled - and lets hope he never needs it. JonyTVR said:
as another one who can be added to the list with a similar condition (mines Crohns disease, very similar to UC) there's needing the loo and fk me I'm going to st myself needing the loo, and someone earlier quoting 3 mins is being quite conservative! Thankfully I don't have that worry now but still do on occasion NEED to use a disabled loo for various reasons, but will still avoid doing so when I can.
However
Those saying they get annoyed by waiting for a disabled loo to come free only to half some bloke walk out after taking a st, just because they can walk doesn't take away their possible need to using the loo, I'm in my early 20's and sometime get dodgy looks when I walk out, as unless I'm having a bad spell and have just lost 20KG and look like a smack head I just look like some yoof not wanting to use the main loo's
at the end of the day I hope most people would leave the disabled loo's free if they are perfectly able to use the main ones but I'm not going to get in a tiff if I see a normal looking person walk out of one.
I feel your pain brother! I too have crohns since I was 12 (now 28) and dont have alot of my gut left so the need to go is very much instant! Unfortunately im going through a pretty bad patch at the mo and I will be getting a radar key due to the selfish prejudus pricks who think just because you dont walk with a stick or have a wheel chair you are not worthy of use of their toilets (yes public and very embarrassing accidents have happened because of this even after presentation of my NACC got to go card explaining my condition.) Somewhatfoolish you display perfectly the every man for his self selfish attitude that is so prevalent in our mess of a society. Apologys for my lack of paragraphs as I'm writing this from my vintage nokia but felt a need to make myself heard.k me I'm going to st myself needing the loo, and someone earlier quoting 3 mins is being quite conservative! Thankfully I don't have that worry now but still do on occasion NEED to use a disabled loo for various reasons, but will still avoid doing so when I can. However
Those saying they get annoyed by waiting for a disabled loo to come free only to half some bloke walk out after taking a s
t, just because they can walk doesn't take away their possible need to using the loo, I'm in my early 20's and sometime get dodgy looks when I walk out, as unless I'm having a bad spell and have just lost 20KG and look like a smack head I just look like some yoof not wanting to use the main loo'sat the end of the day I hope most people would leave the disabled loo's free if they are perfectly able to use the main ones but I'm not going to get in a tiff if I see a normal looking person walk out of one.
CarbonXKR said:
Just having another flare up at the moment and reading this thread has made me realise yet again how relatively unknown our condition and symptoms are. Re the steroids, they certainly make you hungry and as for the bizarre dreams - 
Get yourself on the Tramadol then you will really be dreaming some fked up st! 
I disagree with what you've said, Somewhatfoolish but hope I can come across as good natured. 
Ultimately it boils down to the probability of a loo being occupied when someone in desperate need. Yes, it can happen if a disabled person uses it but the probability rises if everyone uses them. One or two might not make a difference, but if everyone did it it'd be a bad thing. It's not about Doris in her wheelchair having to wait a minute; it's about the aforementioned guys with bowel conditions not wanting to wear their excrement as a fashion accessory.
So even if you think that nipping in for a cheeky 10 second piss isn't a big deal, actions that might significantly change the probability of a disabled loo being occupied when it's needed seems like a bad idea... Such as, for example, starting threads encouraging people to get RADAR keys when they don't need them? That might significantly change the probability of someone cacking themselves. That would seem like a really, really bad idea.
(Meant in a friendly way, Somewhatfoolish. But I still think you're in the wrong here.)
Ultimately it boils down to the probability of a loo being occupied when someone in desperate need. Yes, it can happen if a disabled person uses it but the probability rises if everyone uses them. One or two might not make a difference, but if everyone did it it'd be a bad thing. It's not about Doris in her wheelchair having to wait a minute; it's about the aforementioned guys with bowel conditions not wanting to wear their excrement as a fashion accessory.
So even if you think that nipping in for a cheeky 10 second piss isn't a big deal, actions that might significantly change the probability of a disabled loo being occupied when it's needed seems like a bad idea... Such as, for example, starting threads encouraging people to get RADAR keys when they don't need them? That might significantly change the probability of someone cacking themselves. That would seem like a really, really bad idea.
(Meant in a friendly way, Somewhatfoolish. But I still think you're in the wrong here.)
ChrisNeil said:
Just thought I'd mention that in a supermarket car park, I always park WHEREVER I want. Disabled bays, wide bays, parent & child bays, the trolley stand you name it! Fact is, road markings on private land are menaingless. Sure I get ticketed one in a while, but I always ignore and never pay up. Selfish you say? Not really. These bays are hardly ever completely used up. Even if they are, it's hardly going to kill a disabled person to hobble 20 yards instead of 10. As far the wide bays go (eg the chap earlier who mentioned about his dad and the scooter), the "park where you like" attitude works both ways. If he ever finds there are none of these bays available, he should simply park using 2 regular bays.
I am completely unashamed of where I park, whereas the supermarkets should be for attempting to extort a £70 "fine" from me just because they don't like it!
I do hope you're just trolling, or trying to be funny. If not, you're possibly one of the most ignorant people I've ever come across. I am completely unashamed of where I park, whereas the supermarkets should be for attempting to extort a £70 "fine" from me just because they don't like it!
mr_spock said:
ChrisNeil said:
Just thought I'd mention that in a supermarket car park, I always park WHEREVER I want. Disabled bays, wide bays, parent & child bays, the trolley stand you name it! Fact is, road markings on private land are menaingless. Sure I get ticketed one in a while, but I always ignore and never pay up. Selfish you say? Not really. These bays are hardly ever completely used up. Even if they are, it's hardly going to kill a disabled person to hobble 20 yards instead of 10. As far the wide bays go (eg the chap earlier who mentioned about his dad and the scooter), the "park where you like" attitude works both ways. If he ever finds there are none of these bays available, he should simply park using 2 regular bays.
I am completely unashamed of where I park, whereas the supermarkets should be for attempting to extort a £70 "fine" from me just because they don't like it!
I do hope you're just trolling, or trying to be funny. If not, you're possibly one of the most ignorant people I've ever come across. I am completely unashamed of where I park, whereas the supermarkets should be for attempting to extort a £70 "fine" from me just because they don't like it!
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