365 days without booze... join me?

365 days without booze... join me?

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Smitters

4,006 posts

158 months

Thursday 3rd April 2014
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Top effort Dipwing. You'll be at the 500 day mark in no time and onwards.

Re the stag do, just enjoy it for what it is - mates having fun. It shouldn't require indecent amounts of booze to do that with mates anyway. Be official photographer or something. That could net you quite the income post-do as people pay for deletes...

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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c. 10,080 minutes so far this time, 9 click.

I was dry for most of last year except for ten days in February which was when I 'discovered' it is an issue and again a couple of weeks in the Summer when I wen5t on holiday. Fast forward to January this year and 'decided' my year was up and would restart but as a 'social' drinker again. Didn't go well. I'm not, nor ever have been a raving alcy as such, but far too much for health and comfort. Had a few drinks last Friday 28 March and called it a day. Again.
Pretty sure I have a better understanding of it now and realize moderation does not come easy to me. Abstinence is what works, and I'm happy with that.

Just leaving this here to put a little pressure/gentle nudge to myself. wink

JQ

5,753 posts

180 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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LordGrover said:
c. 10,080 minutes so far this time, 9 click.

I was dry for most of last year except for ten days in February which was when I 'discovered' it is an issue and again a couple of weeks in the Summer when I wen5t on holiday. Fast forward to January this year and 'decided' my year was up and would restart but as a 'social' drinker again. Didn't go well. I'm not, nor ever have been a raving alcy as such, but far too much for health and comfort. Had a few drinks last Friday 28 March and called it a day. Again.
Pretty sure I have a better understanding of it now and realize moderation does not come easy to me. Abstinence is what works, and I'm happy with that.

Just leaving this here to put a little pressure/gentle nudge to myself. wink
I suspect you're in the same boat as most of us - I would also never consider myself an alcoholic, most of my mates drink more than me, I'm just not comfortable with the amount I drank and the impact it had on day to day life, which only became truly apparent after I stopped by how much better I feel. Monday mornings are always interesting at work as I can tell exactly who had a heavy weekend and who didn't. It's also the realisation that I don't need alcohol to have fun or relax - I suspect there's an awful lot of people who don't realise that !!

Stick with it, you're doing a good thing that will have a positive impact on the rest of your life.

TheJimi

25,018 posts

244 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Out of interest, what amounts were you guys drinking?

Even though I'm not abstaining myself, I enjoy reading the thread and people's experiences but I'm always curious about actual quantities - which never seem to be detailed very much.

For my part, I don't drink during the week, and at weekends it can be anything from 2 glasses of wine to 6 bottles of beer + 4 or 5 spirits if I've been on a night out.

Most weekends it's the 2 glasses of wine or 1 or 2 pints and that's it.

LordGrover

33,549 posts

213 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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For me it was 'little' and often; two pints at lunchtime, maybe one or two on the way home and then two to four when I went out later. Typically six to ten pints a day and rarely being 'drunk' as such, just continually 'not sober'.
Weekends probably a little more.

TheJimi

25,018 posts

244 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Ah right, I can see why you wanted to knock that on the head LG.

I couldn't do that. I get a guilt complex as it is when I drink because I see it as a detriment to my training and diet - even though I don't drink THAT much, I still feel guilty!

You're not alone in that style of drinking - half my village is like that.

TwistingMyMelon

6,385 posts

206 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Hmmm I used to have a couple of bottles/pints/few glasses of wine throughout the week

Usually I'd have about 3-5 pints on Friday or/and Saturday night and a couple of glasses of WIne on Sunday

Just before I quit I had stopped drinking in the week and was having about 3-5 pints friday night and 3-5 pints as well on Saturday night

Do feel better for it, I am getting a bit "bored" though, finding it difficult to let off steam if you get me. Doing loads of exercise and feeling fit, but miss the unwinding of booze.

JQ

5,753 posts

180 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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I was between half and a full bottle of wine 3 nights a week - it would depend if my wife wanted a drink or not, ie, once a bottle got opened it would be drunk. Sometimes there would be beer with the wine and sometimes it would be all beer, which would be 5 or 6 pints / bottles. I never drank every night but can't think of 4 consecutive days without alcohol.

I never drank during the day, just didn't appeal and rarely drank early evening - I'd generally not start until after 8pm once the day was done and it was time to relax.

Then of course there would be big occasions - weddings, 40ths and big nights out when I'd drink considerably more. The fact is I'm getting older and the hangovers were getting longer and more painful, which made me grumpy and irritable at times which isn't great with 2 young children.

The hardest thing to deal with has been other peoples reactions - some people assume I'm a secret raging alcoholic, whilst others who know I'm not and drink more than me, see it as bad reflection on their own drinking habits.

nick_j007

Original Poster:

1,598 posts

203 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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Hi all. Long time no speak from me. My apologies. I'm the OP, so I feel a bit responsible for the thread wink

Let me update you on where I've been, where I am and where I'm going.

I managed my 365 days and then went to a solid 18 months.

At the 18 month mark however, I felt over a few weeks a nagging desire for a drink and looking back I guess I the novelty of sobriety had worn off and if honest I felt really in control of myself and made the (not the first time for me) mistake of thinking I could be a balanced and moderate drinker.

So a long story short I started drinking again on the night I went to a fancy dress and it felt like it was the missing part of the night. Yes, I started off being fairly moderate in my drinking, but here I am 9 months later with regular hang overs and 20lbs heavier than I was last summer. Damn.

Maybe this time I need to start a new thread titled 'Stop drinking for ever...join me?'

I'm struggling to find the right words to put this, but as of tonight I intend to recommit myself to the stopping drinking cause but this time with a serious twist...FOR EVER! There's a final glass of red in a bottle downstairs and I intend to declare it to my family, drink it and celebrate that I'm free from having to manage my intake and free from tiresome feelings I have as a result. I'm looking forward to getting my weekend mornings back, my energy back, my looks back wink and zeal for life...all back.

I've been able to cope pretty well in the past non drinking phases, but always left the door ajar for the get out clause. Well I've gone without drink for IIRC three times now, the first two lasted 9/10 months and the last one 18 months.

Having spent the week reading 'Kick the drink easily by Jason Vale' I'm feeling pretty strong to do it. Not dissimilar to Carr's book on the same subject, but more in depth and more convincing I thought. He rams home the concept that you'll not be missing out on anything and in fact regaining everything you should have -energy, confidence, clarity and so on.

So, tonight. One glass to finish the bottle and then that's it. DONE with it. FINISHED. I can relax knowing that I don't have to control my limits any longer. That will be great.

Thanks all. Really heartened to see how quite a number of you have gone 365 and beyond. I know it's not easy, but the rewards are so worth it.


Super Slo Mo

5,368 posts

199 months

Friday 4th April 2014
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TheJimi said:
Out of interest, what amounts were you guys drinking?

Even though I'm not abstaining myself, I enjoy reading the thread and people's experiences but I'm always curious about actual quantities - which never seem to be detailed very much.

For my part, I don't drink during the week, and at weekends it can be anything from 2 glasses of wine to 6 bottles of beer + 4 or 5 spirits if I've been on a night out.

Most weekends it's the 2 glasses of wine or 1 or 2 pints and that's it.
I think I convinced myself I wasn't drinking much, but generally it was half a bottle of wine a day, sometimes followed by 2 or 3 whiskies or other spirits. Occasionally I'd swap the wine for beer, but I figured wine was more healthy somehow .

I'd have the occasional day off, sometimes two in a row, and thus tell myself I'd got it under control. Breaking that habit was the key I think, I was never particularly bothered about binge drinking, or getting mega drunk, but still, I think in hindsight, drinking every day is the beginning of having a bit of a dependency problem.

The problem is, when I go away with work, and particularly when it's a big crew and we're all in the same hotel, it's de rigeur to go out and have a session pretty much every night. TV crews are notorious for drinking bars dry, or having a bloody good go at it . That makes it a little tricky to stay sober, I tend to be unsociable instead. It's been interesting of late to see the state colleagues turn up in the following day.


NorthDave

2,368 posts

233 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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nick_j007 said:
Hi all. Long time no speak from me. My apologies. I'm the OP, so I feel a bit responsible for the thread wink

Let me update you on where I've been, where I am and where I'm going.

I managed my 365 days and then went to a solid 18 months.

At the 18 month mark however, I felt over a few weeks a nagging desire for a drink and looking back I guess I the novelty of sobriety had worn off and if honest I felt really in control of myself and made the (not the first time for me) mistake of thinking I could be a balanced and moderate drinker.

So a long story short I started drinking again on the night I went to a fancy dress and it felt like it was the missing part of the night. Yes, I started off being fairly moderate in my drinking, but here I am 9 months later with regular hang overs and 20lbs heavier than I was last summer. Damn.

Maybe this time I need to start a new thread titled 'Stop drinking for ever...join me?'

I'm struggling to find the right words to put this, but as of tonight I intend to recommit myself to the stopping drinking cause but this time with a serious twist...FOR EVER! There's a final glass of red in a bottle downstairs and I intend to declare it to my family, drink it and celebrate that I'm free from having to manage my intake and free from tiresome feelings I have as a result. I'm looking forward to getting my weekend mornings back, my energy back, my looks back wink and zeal for life...all back.

I've been able to cope pretty well in the past non drinking phases, but always left the door ajar for the get out clause. Well I've gone without drink for IIRC three times now, the first two lasted 9/10 months and the last one 18 months.

Having spent the week reading 'Kick the drink easily by Jason Vale' I'm feeling pretty strong to do it. Not dissimilar to Carr's book on the same subject, but more in depth and more convincing I thought. He rams home the concept that you'll not be missing out on anything and in fact regaining everything you should have -energy, confidence, clarity and so on.

So, tonight. One glass to finish the bottle and then that's it. DONE with it. FINISHED. I can relax knowing that I don't have to control my limits any longer. That will be great.

Thanks all. Really heartened to see how quite a number of you have gone 365 and beyond. I know it's not easy, but the rewards are so worth it.
Thanks for writing that. I'm just over 11 months and was wondering how to handle things going forward - is this me? Finished for ever? Your post probably makes me realise it is. I reckon if I started again, even with good intentions of moderation, I would be back to square one in a month. I Don't want that!

P.S. My drinking was never that heavy really, I just got really fed up with writing weekends off with hangovers.

JFReturns

3,696 posts

172 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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dipwing said:
The stag-do and wedding I attended was only in the UK so I drove. Bit more difficult for you unless you can hire a minibus to cart everyone around??

I'd try to get everyone onside to what you're doing and to be more supportive before the weekend rather than on the day when everyone is toast.

You could always report in to PH every couple of hours or so for some morale boosting!

Other than that sheer will power and determination to keep it up is all I can suggest. Good luck!
jonah35 said:
If you show weakness they'll be on at you like a pack of wolves. Stand firm and just do what they do, have a laugh, go to the clubs etc, you don't need a drink.
Smitters said:
Top effort Dipwing. You'll be at the 500 day mark in no time and onwards.

Re the stag do, just enjoy it for what it is - mates having fun. It shouldn't require indecent amounts of booze to do that with mates anyway. Be official photographer or something. That could net you quite the income post-do as people pay for deletes...
Thanks for the advice chaps, appreciated. The official photographer idea is a good one hehe

I'm quite looking forward to it now!

JFReturns

3,696 posts

172 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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nick_j007 said:
Hi all. Long time no speak from me. <snip>
Welcome back OP! I was wondering why you hadn't posted for a while, now we know why hehe

Just goes to show how easy it is to revert back to square one. I think for quite a few people on this thread, moderate drinking ain't ever going to happen! All or nothing springs to mind. Maybe have a think about how to deal with the 'novelty worn off' feeling when you get there again.

Either way, I think you and this thread has inspired a fair few PH'ers to live far happier and healthier lives!

DuncanM

6,210 posts

280 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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nick_j007 said:
Hi all. Long time no speak from me. My apologies. I'm the OP, so I feel a bit responsible for the thread wink

Let me update you on where I've been, where I am and where I'm going.

I managed my 365 days and then went to a solid 18 months.

At the 18 month mark however, I felt over a few weeks a nagging desire for a drink and looking back I guess I the novelty of sobriety had worn off and if honest I felt really in control of myself and made the (not the first time for me) mistake of thinking I could be a balanced and moderate drinker.

So a long story short I started drinking again on the night I went to a fancy dress and it felt like it was the missing part of the night. Yes, I started off being fairly moderate in my drinking, but here I am 9 months later with regular hang overs and 20lbs heavier than I was last summer. Damn.

Maybe this time I need to start a new thread titled 'Stop drinking for ever...join me?'

I'm struggling to find the right words to put this, but as of tonight I intend to recommit myself to the stopping drinking cause but this time with a serious twist...FOR EVER! There's a final glass of red in a bottle downstairs and I intend to declare it to my family, drink it and celebrate that I'm free from having to manage my intake and free from tiresome feelings I have as a result. I'm looking forward to getting my weekend mornings back, my energy back, my looks back wink and zeal for life...all back.

I've been able to cope pretty well in the past non drinking phases, but always left the door ajar for the get out clause. Well I've gone without drink for IIRC three times now, the first two lasted 9/10 months and the last one 18 months.

Having spent the week reading 'Kick the drink easily by Jason Vale' I'm feeling pretty strong to do it. Not dissimilar to Carr's book on the same subject, but more in depth and more convincing I thought. He rams home the concept that you'll not be missing out on anything and in fact regaining everything you should have -energy, confidence, clarity and so on.

So, tonight. One glass to finish the bottle and then that's it. DONE with it. FINISHED. I can relax knowing that I don't have to control my limits any longer. That will be great.

Thanks all. Really heartened to see how quite a number of you have gone 365 and beyond. I know it's not easy, but the rewards are so worth it.
Thanks for the update OP, very interesting.

Drinking is such a pleasurable thing IMO. It really is hard to drink moderately and seems to be a 'everything or nothing' situation for most of us.

I just can't see myself giving up any time soon, having thought about it I just don't want to miss out on the enjoyment of a nice glass of Rioja with dinner smile.



thenortherner

1,502 posts

164 months

Saturday 5th April 2014
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466 days without booze or fags and still going strong.

GT03ROB

13,270 posts

222 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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Super Slo Mo said:
I think I convinced myself I wasn't drinking much, but generally it was half a bottle of wine a day, sometimes followed by 2 or 3 whiskies or other spirits. Occasionally I'd swap the wine for beer, but I figured wine was more healthy somehow .

I'd have the occasional day off, sometimes two in a row, and thus tell myself I'd got it under control. Breaking that habit was the key I think, I was never particularly bothered about binge drinking, or getting mega drunk, but still, I think in hindsight, drinking every day is the beginning of having a bit of a dependency problem.
I think this is the problem, we convince ourselves we are not drinking that much, it slowly increases & increases; and still we convince ourselves we don't have a problem. For me it's went from a glass or 2 of wine during the week, to a glass or 2 every day, to half a bottle a night, heading to a bottle a night. More a weekends. Didn't need it. Knew I could stop, but it was just too easy to opeen another bottle & pour another glass.

I came to Saudi 3 weeks ago & not touched a drop since I arrived. I don't feel an overwhelming urge for drink, certainly don't need one & honestly don't really miss it.

As a society I think we have become so much more used to having booze around, it's just become engrained in our culture. Many are unable to fully control it's consumption so we end up with threads like this. It's a really argument I think for reviewing the place of alcohol in our society, even to question it's place in TV & the media.


944fan

4,962 posts

186 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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TheJimi said:
Out of interest, what amounts were you guys drinking?

Even though I'm not abstaining myself, I enjoy reading the thread and people's experiences but I'm always curious about actual quantities - which never seem to be detailed very much.

For my part, I don't drink during the week, and at weekends it can be anything from 2 glasses of wine to 6 bottles of beer + 4 or 5 spirits if I've been on a night out.

Most weekends it's the 2 glasses of wine or 1 or 2 pints and that's it.
Towards the end when I quit I was drinking 2 bottles of wine and sometimes some more on top - beer or spirits either side.

This wasn't "every" night but to be fair it was most nights. I either drank that amount or didn't drink at all. Never anything in between as I just couldn't moderate myself.

Now dry 3 months. I do feel so much better. I am still very tired all the time but with my new job I am up at 5:20, in the swimming pool by 6 and then have an hours drive to work to get in for 8:15. Back home by 7. If I was still drinking there would just be no way I could even do that.

I haven't missed it at all really. Don't even think about it.


RicharDC5

3,958 posts

128 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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It has been a while since I last posted on this thread, as after two months and eight days I thought that having just a couple of beers would be ok. It didn't take me long to get back into my old ways and I have decided to give the 365 days another try. Even worse is that I have found myself smoking again after nearly two years quit.

I have a new target of two months and eight days which I plan to exceed. Tonight I'm going to remove all alcohol and tobacco from the house. Wish me luck smile

mug81

256 posts

145 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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thenortherner said:
466 days without booze or fags and still going strong.
Tremendous effort, well done matey!

mug81

256 posts

145 months

Sunday 6th April 2014
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TwistingMyMelon said:
Hmmm I used to have a couple of bottles/pints/few glasses of wine throughout the week

Usually I'd have about 3-5 pints on Friday or/and Saturday night and a couple of glasses of WIne on Sunday

Just before I quit I had stopped drinking in the week and was having about 3-5 pints friday night and 3-5 pints as well on Saturday night

Do feel better for it, I am getting a bit "bored" though, finding it difficult to let off steam if you get me. Doing loads of exercise and feeling fit, but miss the unwinding of booze.
I can totally relate to this... I'm not sure why it is exactly that a drink of some sort seems so crucial to de-stressing, but it does seem to be so often the way. That said, I've been forcing myself to go for a run at the times I'd usually want a beer- which feels completely unnatural- but I am feeling decent for it physically. Also mentally better too, knowing that I've done something good