Depression

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227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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shakotan said:
Can I join in this thread?
Not really, it's a discussion about depression.

I would suggest counselling.

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
Seeing as you asked, that was the end result of ECT...
The specific cause of death is debatable, you know more than I perhaps, but unless they actually told you, you'll never know.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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227bhp said:
WinstonWolf said:
Seeing as you asked, that was the end result of ECT...
The specific cause of death is debatable, you know more than I perhaps, but unless they actually told you, you'll never know.
I do know, in great detail, hence my cautionary tale...

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
227bhp said:
WinstonWolf said:
Seeing as you asked, that was the end result of ECT...
The specific cause of death is debatable, you know more than I perhaps, but unless they actually told you, you'll never know.
I do know, in great detail, hence my cautionary tale...
But as you are unwilling to share it's pretty useless to the debate.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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227bhp said:
WinstonWolf said:
227bhp said:
WinstonWolf said:
Seeing as you asked, that was the end result of ECT...
The specific cause of death is debatable, you know more than I perhaps, but unless they actually told you, you'll never know.
I do know, in great detail, hence my cautionary tale...
But as you are unwilling to share it's pretty useless to the debate.
Perhaps *you* should have it done then rolleyes

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
227bhp said:
WinstonWolf said:
227bhp said:
WinstonWolf said:
Seeing as you asked, that was the end result of ECT...
The specific cause of death is debatable, you know more than I perhaps, but unless they actually told you, you'll never know.
I do know, in great detail, hence my cautionary tale...
But as you are unwilling to share it's pretty useless to the debate.
Perhaps *you* should have it done then rolleyes
Go back to my original post and see what was written, it certainly wasn't "Mr Wolf, would you like to tell us that you know all about it, but then not actually tell us anything of any use"

Was it?

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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227bhp said:
WinstonWolf said:
227bhp said:
WinstonWolf said:
227bhp said:
WinstonWolf said:
Seeing as you asked, that was the end result of ECT...
The specific cause of death is debatable, you know more than I perhaps, but unless they actually told you, you'll never know.
I do know, in great detail, hence my cautionary tale...
But as you are unwilling to share it's pretty useless to the debate.
Perhaps *you* should have it done then rolleyes
Go back to my original post and see what was written, it certainly wasn't "Mr Wolf, would you like to tell us that you know all about it, but then not actually tell us anything of any use"

Was it?
If I tell you it can go spectacularly wrong, but I choose not to share *personal* details then those details are none of your fking business.

Do your own due diligence and research before considering ECT.

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
If I tell you it can go spectacularly wrong, but I choose not to share *personal* details then those details are none of your fking business.

Do your own due diligence and research before considering ECT.
Thank you for your help, you've been great.

Wacky Racer

38,142 posts

247 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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shakotan said:
Can I join in this thread?

For many years I've had the same 'personality'. I have trouble being motivated in all areas of my life. Relationships, work, friends. I like to spend a lot of time by myself. I emotionally eat. I'll get encouraged to do something, like a diet or start exercising, then after a couple of weeks or months interest dries up and I'm back to my old self. At work, I can literally sit and surf the internet all day without doing anything constructive. Other times I feel really motivated and will spend the entire day immersed in a job-related project.

I have quite a small circle of friends and an even smaller family base, and I'm quite content to go weeks if not months without seeing them.

If I do get into a relationship, after the initial spark was died down, I can't be bothered maintain it and end up going back to being single.

I often get annoyed at trivial things that most people would gloss over, like someone parking badly, or not holding a door open, or generally being inconsiderate.

I often go on holidays alone, because when I do go with friends, it gets annoying and I feel my holiday is 'ruined' because of this, for no particular reason.

I guess the most obvious solution is to see my doctor and talk about it, but being a 'typical' male I'd rather deal with it myself, which ironically is going to be something that never happens.
I wouldn't worry too much about it, some people enjoy their own company....I've been married thirty five years, we are very happy, but equally I enjoy my own company and could happily go off on holiday for two weeks by myself.

Only if it is really getting you down, do something about it.

shakotan

10,684 posts

196 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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227bhp said:
shakotan said:
Can I join in this thread?
Not really, it's a discussion about depression.

I would suggest counselling.
In your opinion my symptoms don't sound like depression?

oobster

7,089 posts

211 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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227bhp: Of all the threads on PH to argue, this isn't the one. WinstonWolf's posts are perfectly reasonable.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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oobster said:
227bhp: Of all the threads on PH to argue, this isn't the one. WinstonWolf's posts are perfectly reasonable.
beer Thank you. I just want people to consider ECT fully, look into all aspects before making any decision. There's good and bad sides to it.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Wednesday 14th December 2016
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shakotan said:
In your opinion my symptoms don't sound like depression?
Very much so IMO
Thanks for sharing. Does it help to type it out ?

wiliferus

4,060 posts

198 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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oobster said:
227bhp: Of all the threads on PH to argue, this isn't the one. WinstonWolf's posts are perfectly reasonable.
Completely agree. Thus far this has been a supportive, informative thread. It's not a thread for willy waving and sarcasm.
Sod off to NPE if you want an argument, there's plenty there who will happily play!

shakotan

10,684 posts

196 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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johnwilliams77 said:
Very much so IMO
Thanks for sharing. Does it help to type it out ?
Thank you.

It certainly helped me recognise there's a problem.

johnwilliams77

8,308 posts

103 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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shakotan said:
Thank you.

It certainly helped me recognise there's a problem.
How you act / feel is very common. Do you exercise / eat well / drink in moderation to try and limit the variation in how you feel?

Ignore the troll in the thread - it's clear from the other posters that arguments in this thread are not the norm and are less than welcome.

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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oobster said:
227bhp: Of all the threads on PH to argue, this isn't the one. WinstonWolf's posts are perfectly reasonable.
You seem to have forgotten it takes two to argue.
I don't think it's reasonable to post up that you know all about something, but won't say any more, it's aggravating and exasperating when you want to discuss and learn.
I do understand and sympathise with his reasons for not wanting to divulge, but then, he would have been better off just not posting up at all, or at the worst, just putting all he eventually stated into one post and saying he would speak no more about it. Some people need to think more before they post.
I just thought it was an interesting avenue to discuss and consider in an adult fashion, but it's obviously not possible, we haven't learned much at all.

WinstonWolf

72,857 posts

239 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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227bhp said:
oobster said:
227bhp: Of all the threads on PH to argue, this isn't the one. WinstonWolf's posts are perfectly reasonable.
You seem to have forgotten it takes two to argue.
I don't think it's reasonable to post up that you know all about something, but won't say any more, it's aggravating and exasperating when you want to discuss and learn.
I do understand and sympathise with his reasons for not wanting to divulge, but then, he would have been better off just not posting up at all, or at the worst, just putting all he eventually stated into one post and saying he would speak no more about it. Some people need to think more before they post.
I just thought it was an interesting avenue to discuss and consider in an adult fashion, but it's obviously not possible, we haven't learned much at all.
I generally just keep a watching brief here, I rarely post and have no wish to get in a bun fight in an otherwise supportive thread.

Personal experiences that I choose to keep personal are just that and I reiterate, are none of *your* business.

There are good reasons, of which I have experience, to fully consider both the benefits and pitfalls of ECT. That is all anyone needs to know from me.

By all means discuss ECT, but don't expect anyone to divulge personal information merely for your gratification.

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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shakotan said:
227bhp said:
shakotan said:
Can I join in this thread?
Not really, it's a discussion about depression.

I would suggest counselling.
In your opinion my symptoms don't sound like depression?
From what you wrote I wouldn't say so, the basics of it are permanent low mood, but certainly don't let that stop you from investigating further if you think otherwise. Talking to your Doc isn't a bad place to start (neither is some research on the 'net), but it really depends on your Doctor, they aren't Psychologists remember, although a good one can hold the key to further developments.

It looks like you've got to a point in your life where you look back and have some thoughts on what has happened, maybe you want to improve the future, or give your personality a label, although I don't like the term, it is 'Navel gazing'.
It isn't uncommon to not know oneself fully, some people don't know themselves at all and never will! But it's interesting and enlightening to do some research - just be careful to remain open minded and not label yourself as such and such too strongly - it's not all black and white, there are spectrums. It may take months or years to do this, then hopefully it will gradually dawn on you that you are happy with what you know and how you are.
If you aren't then you can implement small changes. If you want to do it yourself then there are plenty of self help books on the subject, if not then pay to see a professional, just a few once a week appointments can often work wonders, but not for some people.
Good luck with it, keep thinking and asking questions, it can be a bit of a lengthy journey though!

227bhp

10,203 posts

128 months

Thursday 15th December 2016
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WinstonWolf said:
I generally just keep a watching brief here, I rarely post and have no wish to get in a bun fight in an otherwise supportive thread.

Personal experiences that I choose to keep personal are just that and I reiterate, are none of *your* business.

There are good reasons, of which I have experience, to fully consider both the benefits and pitfalls of ECT. That is all anyone needs to know from me.

By all means discuss ECT, but don't expect anyone to divulge personal information merely for your gratification.
If it's none of my business then don't post up, simple as that.
You might want to carry on arguing, but I don't and neither does anyone else, so this is my last post to you on the subject, we are just going round in circles.