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curlyks2 said:
c. 5 or 6 years on antidepressants (citalopram this time round, which do really help, but... (3rd time on different ADs over the years)), 3rd course of CBT (apparently my activity/exercise levels are above normal anyway so that side of it has changed nowt), still massively struggling with motivation and seeing "the point".
I find cito does affect motivation, it used to make be feel numb mentally. There are different angles to the CBT perhaps talk to your counsellor and try to work on motivation?For me I now accept that there won't be a 100% cure for depression. It's about the low periods and how I try to have as few low periods or have shorter low periods as possible. One thing I still have committed to is to get more exercise though, I have a very unhealthy lifestyle... Keep strong brother!
There are far more effective ways of approaching depression that traditional talking therapies - while they give a means to express some of these locked in feelings, they don't give you a way to release. In my personal experience emotional freedom therapies have given massive results long term in a very short space of time.
The coaching that I've been offering over the last few years primarily focuses on trauma release to get through the inertia.
The coaching that I've been offering over the last few years primarily focuses on trauma release to get through the inertia.
digger_R said:
There are far more effective ways of approaching depression that traditional talking therapies - while they give a means to express some of these locked in feelings, they don't give you a way to release. In my personal experience emotional freedom therapies have given massive results long term in a very short space of time.
The coaching that I've been offering over the last few years primarily focuses on trauma release to get through the inertia.
That's great, however Emotional Freedom Techniques aren't supported by science.The coaching that I've been offering over the last few years primarily focuses on trauma release to get through the inertia.
digger_R said:
Mobile Chicane said:
That's great, however Emotional Freedom Techniques aren't supported by science.
It works and there is a fair amount of scientific research to back it up. I'll stick to the methods that work for myself and my clients thanks. EFT features often in publications such as The Skeptics Dictionary, and Quackwatch.
Mobile Chicane said:
Quote this 'scientific research'. If you can find any.
EFT features often in publications such as The Skeptics Dictionary, and Quackwatch.
Obviously I can't know why you're so defensive about this - my only goal is to help myself and my clients.EFT features often in publications such as The Skeptics Dictionary, and Quackwatch.
If you're genuinely interested in looking into it yourself - take a detailed look at the work of Candace Pert specifically her work into Neuropeptides - that's just one individual, otherwise google is your friend.
As a modern therapeutic practice, there is a huge variation in the way it's used. I'm not familiar with those publications that you mention and what claims they make so I'm not in a position to comment. I trust the results otherwise I wouldn't use it or mention it here.
Had a great week last week then bang, yesterday it hit me again. I'm exhausted with this now. I honestly think if I didn't have to get up for work I would stay in bed 24/7. I contemplated going home last night from work as my frame of mind wasn't right but I managed to get through the night shift.
Tomorrow I'm booking to see GP again and further counselling.
Tomorrow I'm booking to see GP again and further counselling.
digger_R said:
Mobile Chicane said:
Quote this 'scientific research'. If you can find any.
EFT features often in publications such as The Skeptics Dictionary, and Quackwatch.
Obviously I can't know why you're so defensive about this - my only goal is to help myself and my clients.EFT features often in publications such as The Skeptics Dictionary, and Quackwatch.
If you're genuinely interested in looking into it yourself - take a detailed look at the work of Candace Pert specifically her work into Neuropeptides - that's just one individual, otherwise google is your friend.
As a modern therapeutic practice, there is a huge variation in the way it's used. I'm not familiar with those publications that you mention and what claims they make so I'm not in a position to comment. I trust the results otherwise I wouldn't use it or mention it here.
**Dusts off Experimental Psychology BSc**
Candace Pert discovered the opiate receptor in the brain. Which is relevant to your argument - how?
Ruskie said:
Had a great week last week then bang, yesterday it hit me again. I'm exhausted with this now. I honestly think if I didn't have to get up for work I would stay in bed 24/7. I contemplated going home last night from work as my frame of mind wasn't right but I managed to get through the night shift.
Tomorrow I'm booking to see GP again and further counselling.
Is there any alternative to night shift work? That can't be helping.Tomorrow I'm booking to see GP again and further counselling.
However you are getting up for work. That has to count as a very big tick.
Many a time I've not managed that. I eat a lot of dodgy curries, right?
Mobile Chicane said:
I'm not remotely defensive, merely informed.
**Dusts off Experimental Psychology BSc**
Candace Pert discovered the opiate receptor in the brain. Which is relevant to your argument - how?
Just so you're aware, I don't have an argument - and I'm not interested in having one here.**Dusts off Experimental Psychology BSc**
Candace Pert discovered the opiate receptor in the brain. Which is relevant to your argument - how?
As I mentioned in my previous post, if you're genuinely interested in informing yourself (which by the nature of your posts, I'd guess you're not) - even the briefest looks at her website would tell you why that neuropeptide research is relevant.
I'll happily step out of this discussion with you and leave it as a recommendation for anyone who wants help.
Enjoy your day everyone!
digger_R said:
Mobile Chicane said:
I'm not remotely defensive, merely informed.
**Dusts off Experimental Psychology BSc**
Candace Pert discovered the opiate receptor in the brain. Which is relevant to your argument - how?
Just so you're aware, I don't have an argument - and I'm not interested in having one here.**Dusts off Experimental Psychology BSc**
Candace Pert discovered the opiate receptor in the brain. Which is relevant to your argument - how?
As I mentioned in my previous post, if you're genuinely interested in informing yourself (which by the nature of your posts, I'd guess you're not) - even the briefest looks at her website would tell you why that neuropeptide research is relevant.
I'll happily step out of this discussion with you and leave it as a recommendation for anyone who wants help.
Enjoy your day everyone!
However you're skirting dangerously close to the PH rules on 'advertising'.
Meanwhile, for anyone who wants to see a qualified psychologist, please look at the British Psychological Society website for a list of psychologists in your area:
here
Admittedly, qualification isn't a cast-iron guarantee of competence, but it has to be a start.
Currently, the 'therapy industry' is completely unregulated: any charlatan can erect a plaque outside their door stating 'Fred Bloggs, Therapist'.
Many do.
Mobile Chicane said:
You too!
However you're skirting dangerously close to the PH rules on 'advertising'.
Meanwhile, for anyone who wants to see a qualified psychologist, please look at the British Psychological Society website for a list of psychologists in your area:
here
Admittedly, qualification isn't a cast-iron guarantee of competence, but it has to be a start.
Currently, the 'therapy industry' is completely unregulated: any charlatan can erect a plaque outside their door stating 'Fred Bloggs, Therapist'.
Many do.
One wrong space on that sign and there would be trouble!However you're skirting dangerously close to the PH rules on 'advertising'.
Meanwhile, for anyone who wants to see a qualified psychologist, please look at the British Psychological Society website for a list of psychologists in your area:
here
Admittedly, qualification isn't a cast-iron guarantee of competence, but it has to be a start.
Currently, the 'therapy industry' is completely unregulated: any charlatan can erect a plaque outside their door stating 'Fred Bloggs, Therapist'.
Many do.
allergictocheese said:
Mobile Chicane said:
You too!
However you're skirting dangerously close to the PH rules on 'advertising'.
Meanwhile, for anyone who wants to see a qualified psychologist, please look at the British Psychological Society website for a list of psychologists in your area:
here
Admittedly, qualification isn't a cast-iron guarantee of competence, but it has to be a start.
Currently, the 'therapy industry' is completely unregulated: any charlatan can erect a plaque outside their door stating 'Fred Bloggs, Therapist'.
Many do.
One wrong space on that sign and there would be trouble!However you're skirting dangerously close to the PH rules on 'advertising'.
Meanwhile, for anyone who wants to see a qualified psychologist, please look at the British Psychological Society website for a list of psychologists in your area:
here
Admittedly, qualification isn't a cast-iron guarantee of competence, but it has to be a start.
Currently, the 'therapy industry' is completely unregulated: any charlatan can erect a plaque outside their door stating 'Fred Bloggs, Therapist'.
Many do.
MC - we're you happy with the neuropeptide research you were asking for previously?
I've met a few psychologists who were good therapists. One of the most effective people I've ever come across was an ex-heroin addict who had completely transformed his life and that of thousands of others he'd come into contact with, no paper qualifications whatsoever - just a huge desire to help others.
Personal experience has put me into contact with more altruistic, passionate and committed therapists than psychologists - though, I'm not about to make sweeping generalisations about either.
This is a thread about depression and there are numerous avenues out there for people who want help.
My intention is to share my personal experience - exercise, meditation, EFT, nutrition and more recently yoga have been the biggest catalysts that helped me changed my life. I hope that in itself can provide some inspiration for others!
Best wishes to you all!
Rusty1 said:
Well here starts the week of early shifts, 6-3:15
first time on them since going onto mirtazipan,
god getting up is hard work and I took it at 8pm to hope it wouldn't run to far into this morning.
first time on them since going onto mirtazipan,
god getting up is hard work and I took it at 8pm to hope it wouldn't run to far into this morning.
good luck with that, definately an alarm clock on the other side of the room!So far 2015 hasn't been too bad for me. Had a bad few days last week but apart from that I've been more positive than 2014. Weird how it can come and go like that, I guess I'm lucky to only have it mild.
Taking my friend away for a little getaway to London for a few days for her 18th birthday, that has kept my spirits high. Fingers crossed I can stay positive for a while.
Taking my friend away for a little getaway to London for a few days for her 18th birthday, that has kept my spirits high. Fingers crossed I can stay positive for a while.
digger_R said:
This is a thread about depression and there are numerous avenues out there for people who want help.
My intention is to share my personal experience - exercise, meditation, EFT, nutrition and more recently yoga have been the biggest catalysts that helped me changed my life. I hope that in itself can provide some inspiration for others!
IANAP However, in my experience, trauma based therapies and mindfulness have been pretty effective. My intention is to share my personal experience - exercise, meditation, EFT, nutrition and more recently yoga have been the biggest catalysts that helped me changed my life. I hope that in itself can provide some inspiration for others!
There is also some research now to support these kind of alternate approaches
e.g. http://psycnet.apa.org/journals/ccp/78/2/169/
digger_R said:
Obviously I can't know why you're so defensive about this - my only goal is to help myself and my clients.
If you're genuinely interested in looking into it yourself - take a detailed look at the work of Candace Pert specifically her work into Neuropeptides - that's just one individual, otherwise google is your friend.
As a modern therapeutic practice, there is a huge variation in the way it's used. I'm not familiar with those publications that you mention and what claims they make so I'm not in a position to comment. I trust the results otherwise I wouldn't use it or mention it here.
I did just Google it, you're right it was easy to find information. If you're genuinely interested in looking into it yourself - take a detailed look at the work of Candace Pert specifically her work into Neuropeptides - that's just one individual, otherwise google is your friend.
As a modern therapeutic practice, there is a huge variation in the way it's used. I'm not familiar with those publications that you mention and what claims they make so I'm not in a position to comment. I trust the results otherwise I wouldn't use it or mention it here.
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1111/cp.1202...
This paper and several others claim you're at best, deluded.
He's probably defensive because you are misleading vulnerable people for financial gain. Personally I don't actually doubt your good intentions, but the road to hell is paved with them.
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