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Sorry for stumbling in here with nothing really to contribute. But I listen to the Joe Rogan podcast all the time and have just finished listening to episode 700 with guest Dr Mark Gordon. He's a doctor doing very interesting things with US veterans with many symptoms including many mentioned here. Personlality 'changes', depression, emotional instability. There are some very real links with hormone levels and other brain chemitsry issues.
Now a lot of what he talks about are related to traumatic brain injury. But these symptoms can be triggered years later.
The podacst is well worth a listen, maybe some of you guys might get something out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIQC3zHfVaI
Now a lot of what he talks about are related to traumatic brain injury. But these symptoms can be triggered years later.
The podacst is well worth a listen, maybe some of you guys might get something out of it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RIQC3zHfVaI
Not posted in here about myself for a while,
I've been doing good, don't get as low any more,
reduced my mirtazapine to half a tablet a night (and occasionally forget to take it, surprisingly the next day is lovely)
I now find work bareable, having been moved shift.
Enjoy the gym and fitness stuff and been back to one rugby training session without anxiety attack before hand.
my only issue i'm having just now is
so many days i just don't see the "point" in living, its just rinse and repeat till your old and frail, then you die.
Friends have noticed i've become quite twisted when it comes to death being mentioned and that If someone came into work with a gun to shoot folk, I'd quite happily try and disarm him and if i fail and get killed, oh well!
I don't plan on killing myself but I don't stress or give a crap about if i just dropped dead.
But yeah, I don't get as low but i also just don't see the "Point"
I've been doing good, don't get as low any more,
reduced my mirtazapine to half a tablet a night (and occasionally forget to take it, surprisingly the next day is lovely)
I now find work bareable, having been moved shift.
Enjoy the gym and fitness stuff and been back to one rugby training session without anxiety attack before hand.
my only issue i'm having just now is
so many days i just don't see the "point" in living, its just rinse and repeat till your old and frail, then you die.
Friends have noticed i've become quite twisted when it comes to death being mentioned and that If someone came into work with a gun to shoot folk, I'd quite happily try and disarm him and if i fail and get killed, oh well!
I don't plan on killing myself but I don't stress or give a crap about if i just dropped dead.
But yeah, I don't get as low but i also just don't see the "Point"
Ruskie said:
"Lonely, isolated but safe." very sad words bud. A while ago, maybe a year, I let a few people in, some know I suffer but never mention it, they've helped a lot just by making sure I'm involved in things they get up to. I'm very greatful and hope you manage to let let someone in soon too.Ruskie said:
Ruskie, have you listened to that podcast I linked a couple of posts up? Having been a footballer you may well have suffered traumatic brain injury. Have you had any hormone level tests?It's coming to light that soldiers who have never suffered injury are experiencing the symptoms and it is being attributed to repeated concussive (close proximity to heavy weapon firing) incidents.
Certainly heading a football thousands of times could fall into this category. Not to mention head clashes.
Give yourself 3 hours and give it a listen.
Good luck.
vetrof said:
Ruskie said:
Ruskie, have you listened to that podcast I linked a couple of posts up? Having been a footballer you may well have suffered traumatic brain injury. Have you had any hormone level tests?It's coming to light that soldiers who have never suffered injury are experiencing the symptoms and it is being attributed to repeated concussive (close proximity to heavy weapon firing) incidents.
Certainly heading a football thousands of times could fall into this category. Not to mention head clashes.
Give yourself 3 hours and give it a listen.
Good luck.
Sorry to hear some of you are still struggling.
Stay strong and tell someone how you feel.
In my world, I am due coming to the end of my work funded counseling sessions. I was really reluctant to go and put it off for months, but the events at work that I mentioned previously forced me to do something as I was in a very dark place.
Despite some misgivings and understandable awkwardness, I can say it has been one of the best things I have ever done. Just the chance to talk candidly and without fear of judgement is quite liberating.
Some things that I have learnt about myself since undergoing the sessions:
-I am good at looking after others, but neglect myself.
-My favoured coping mechanism is avoidance.
-I deny myself things and am not honest about what I really want
-I am liked and valued by others more than I previously realised, and certainly more than I do myself.
-I am a workaholic, people- pleaser and find it difficult to say no ( this was seen as a from of avoidance).
-I tend to isolate myself, hence my social and family life is pretty crap.
-I feel guilty about sharing my problems with others and tend to suffer in silence as a result.
As a result of these sessions and frank conversations with management, I have decided to apply to university and retrain next year (going to an open day on Sunday to get more info), as I feel I have become quite stale and I need a challenge. I have also knocked all the crazy overtime on the head, after being told to take it easy by my boss.
I will go back to the gym as I realised that I had not attended for 10 months! I have also promised my self that I will start eating properly and consistently as my diet has been absolute crap for the past 18 months. These have helped in the past, so I'm going to give them another go. I will also revisit my old hobbies, which I have sadly neglected, as this will give me more of a social life.
I am also in the process of booking a Christmas holiday to see my sister and her kids overseas as have not seen them for four years. I cannot wait!
Finally, as I have been single for about 3 years, I decided that I am going to say sod it to my anxiety and shyness and ask out a work colleague who I really like. Even if she says no, at least I know I have tried.
Thanks for listening to my ramblings. Best wishes and better times to all of you.
Stay strong and tell someone how you feel.In my world, I am due coming to the end of my work funded counseling sessions. I was really reluctant to go and put it off for months, but the events at work that I mentioned previously forced me to do something as I was in a very dark place.
Despite some misgivings and understandable awkwardness, I can say it has been one of the best things I have ever done. Just the chance to talk candidly and without fear of judgement is quite liberating.
Some things that I have learnt about myself since undergoing the sessions:
-I am good at looking after others, but neglect myself.
-My favoured coping mechanism is avoidance.
-I deny myself things and am not honest about what I really want
-I am liked and valued by others more than I previously realised, and certainly more than I do myself.
-I am a workaholic, people- pleaser and find it difficult to say no ( this was seen as a from of avoidance).
-I tend to isolate myself, hence my social and family life is pretty crap.
-I feel guilty about sharing my problems with others and tend to suffer in silence as a result.
As a result of these sessions and frank conversations with management, I have decided to apply to university and retrain next year (going to an open day on Sunday to get more info), as I feel I have become quite stale and I need a challenge. I have also knocked all the crazy overtime on the head, after being told to take it easy by my boss.
I will go back to the gym as I realised that I had not attended for 10 months! I have also promised my self that I will start eating properly and consistently as my diet has been absolute crap for the past 18 months. These have helped in the past, so I'm going to give them another go. I will also revisit my old hobbies, which I have sadly neglected, as this will give me more of a social life.
I am also in the process of booking a Christmas holiday to see my sister and her kids overseas as have not seen them for four years. I cannot wait!
Finally, as I have been single for about 3 years, I decided that I am going to say sod it to my anxiety and shyness and ask out a work colleague who I really like. Even if she says no, at least I know I have tried.
Thanks for listening to my ramblings. Best wishes and better times to all of you.
[quote=jogger1976]Sorry to hear some of you are still struggling. Stay strong and tell someone how you feel.
In my world, I am due coming to the end of my work funded counseling sessions. I was really reluctant to go and put it off for months, but the events at work that I mentioned previously forced me to do something as I was in a very dark place.
Despite some misgivings and understandable awkwardness, I can say it has been one of the best things I have ever done. Just the chance to talk candidly and without fear of judgement is quite liberating.
Some things that I have learnt about myself since undergoing the sessions:
-I am good at looking after others, but neglect myself.
-My favoured coping mechanism is avoidance.
-I deny myself things and am not honest about what I really want
-I am liked and valued by others more than I previously realised, and certainly more than I do myself.
-I am a workaholic, people- pleaser and find it difficult to say no ( this was seen as a from of avoidance).
-I tend to isolate myself, hence my social and family life is pretty crap.
-I feel guilty about sharing my problems with others and tend to suffer in silence as a result.
As a result of these sessions and frank conversations with management, I have decided to apply to university and retrain next year (going to an open day on Sunday to get more info), as I feel I have become quite stale and I need a challenge. I have also knocked all the crazy overtime on the head, after being told to take it easy by my boss.
I will go back to the gym as I realised that I had not attended for 10 months! I have also promised my self that I will start eating properly and consistently as my diet has been absolute crap for the past 18 months. These have helped in the past, so I'm going to give them another go. I will also revisit my old hobbies, which I have sadly neglected, as this will give me more of a social life.
I am also in the process of booking a Christmas holiday to see my sister and her kids overseas as have not seen them for four years. I cannot wait!
Finally, as I have been single for about 3 years, I decided that I am going to say sod it to my anxiety and shyness and ask out a work colleague who I really like. Even if she says no, at least I know I have tried.
Thanks for listening to my ramblings. Best wishes and better times to all of you.
What a fantastic outcome, sounds like you have a very different outlook on the present and future. Enjoy.
Stay strong and tell someone how you feel.In my world, I am due coming to the end of my work funded counseling sessions. I was really reluctant to go and put it off for months, but the events at work that I mentioned previously forced me to do something as I was in a very dark place.
Despite some misgivings and understandable awkwardness, I can say it has been one of the best things I have ever done. Just the chance to talk candidly and without fear of judgement is quite liberating.
Some things that I have learnt about myself since undergoing the sessions:
-I am good at looking after others, but neglect myself.
-My favoured coping mechanism is avoidance.
-I deny myself things and am not honest about what I really want
-I am liked and valued by others more than I previously realised, and certainly more than I do myself.
-I am a workaholic, people- pleaser and find it difficult to say no ( this was seen as a from of avoidance).
-I tend to isolate myself, hence my social and family life is pretty crap.
-I feel guilty about sharing my problems with others and tend to suffer in silence as a result.
As a result of these sessions and frank conversations with management, I have decided to apply to university and retrain next year (going to an open day on Sunday to get more info), as I feel I have become quite stale and I need a challenge. I have also knocked all the crazy overtime on the head, after being told to take it easy by my boss.
I will go back to the gym as I realised that I had not attended for 10 months! I have also promised my self that I will start eating properly and consistently as my diet has been absolute crap for the past 18 months. These have helped in the past, so I'm going to give them another go. I will also revisit my old hobbies, which I have sadly neglected, as this will give me more of a social life.
I am also in the process of booking a Christmas holiday to see my sister and her kids overseas as have not seen them for four years. I cannot wait!
Finally, as I have been single for about 3 years, I decided that I am going to say sod it to my anxiety and shyness and ask out a work colleague who I really like. Even if she says no, at least I know I have tried.
Thanks for listening to my ramblings. Best wishes and better times to all of you.
What a fantastic outcome, sounds like you have a very different outlook on the present and future. Enjoy.
Been a while since I contributed in here. The last 6 months I've got a lot better. I basically dropped all my bad habits, got out the house more and found new hobbies and I haven't felt this good in a long time. Still have my off days but on the whole I finally feel on top of it and in control!
I don't mean to rub it in or anything, but I have nobody else to tell. I still haven't told anyone about it.
I don't mean to rub it in or anything, but I have nobody else to tell. I still haven't told anyone about it.
Petrolhead95 said:
Been a while since I contributed in here. The last 6 months I've got a lot better. I basically dropped all my bad habits, got out the house more and found new hobbies and I haven't felt this good in a long time. Still have my off days but on the whole I finally feel on top of it and in control!
I don't mean to rub it in or anything, but I have nobody else to tell. I still haven't told anyone about it.
I cant imagine anyone thinking your rubbing it in if your feeling in a better place. That's goods news and nice to hear.I don't mean to rub it in or anything, but I have nobody else to tell. I still haven't told anyone about it.
This is my first time posting on this thread, I think I have depression but part of me is in denial.
I read this- http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
today and spent the day in tears.
I read this- http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
today and spent the day in tears.
vanordinaire said:
This is my first time posting on this thread, I think I have depression but part of me is in denial.
I read this- http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
today and spent the day in tears.
Are you taking the p155?I read this- http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
today and spent the day in tears.
Dont think this is the thread for it tbh
jonamv8 said:
vanordinaire said:
This is my first time posting on this thread, I think I have depression but part of me is in denial.
I read this- http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
today and spent the day in tears.
Are you taking the p155?I read this- http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&a...
today and spent the day in tears.
Dont think this is the thread for it tbh
I've been bursting to tears lately for no apparent reason and the other day I just couldn't stop.
As I said, I think I have depression, there is definitely something wrong but I'm scared to have it confirmed.
vanordinaire said:
No it was a serious post. I worked my way through some of the songs on the music post and had a very strange day.
I've been bursting to tears lately for no apparent reason and the other day I just couldn't stop.
As I said, I think I have depression, there is definitely something wrong but I'm scared to have it confirmed.
I think what you're saying is that you think something's wrong but you dont know what it is, and if it is depression or not. I've been bursting to tears lately for no apparent reason and the other day I just couldn't stop.
As I said, I think I have depression, there is definitely something wrong but I'm scared to have it confirmed.
It might be. It might be oxymydorangifidos. (I dont know what that is, it's just a name I made up). The name itself doesnt mean anything other than sticking a name onto something, and while there's a test for depression it's not absolute in many cases. It's dependent on the answers you give and they're graded against a scoring system of someone being more likely or less likely rather than you're either in or yer out.
You probably should see a GP and look back over the past few years at certain events you might have bottled up a reaction to
andy-xr said:
vanordinaire said:
No it was a serious post. I worked my way through some of the songs on the music post and had a very strange day.
I've been bursting to tears lately for no apparent reason and the other day I just couldn't stop.
As I said, I think I have depression, there is definitely something wrong but I'm scared to have it confirmed.
I think what you're saying is that you think something's wrong but you dont know what it is, and if it is depression or not. I've been bursting to tears lately for no apparent reason and the other day I just couldn't stop.
As I said, I think I have depression, there is definitely something wrong but I'm scared to have it confirmed.
It might be. It might be oxymydorangifidos. (I dont know what that is, it's just a name I made up). The name itself doesnt mean anything other than sticking a name onto something, and while there's a test for depression it's not absolute in many cases. It's dependent on the answers you give and they're graded against a scoring system of someone being more likely or less likely rather than you're either in or yer out.
You probably should see a GP and look back over the past few years at certain events you might have bottled up a reaction to
At 50 years old and almost perfect sickness record, a year and a half ago I was signed off work with 'work related stress with symptoms of anxiety and depression'. My employer felt I was no longer able to do my job and tried to get rid of me but I fought the illness and fought my manager and got back to work. I used every stress management technique I could find and managed to get back to where I had been, turned things around, was declared ok by the doctor and was actually hailed as a success story by our HR department (who had tried to get rid of me a few months earlier). I stayed in post for a year, but earlier this year I found my symptoms coming back.
I decided I didn't have the strength to fight it again so handed in my notice and left work. We had been about to start a major house build/ barn conversion project and we decided that I could work on that instead. It made financial sense as the savings on contractor costs matched my salary and I felt that doing physical work and some of the crafty/skilful aspects would help me recover mentally.
Three months on and I'm struggling, I don't have the anxiety or stress I had before but some days I just feel dead inside and really struggle to get motivated. I'm on my own all day on site and sometimes I just sit and stare and don't achieve anything. When I do get started, it's great, I'm physically fitter, 2 stones lighter, in spite of the bad days, the job is ahead of schedule and I'm so proud of my work. I know I should go to a doctor for help but I'm scared, I feel if I do it will be 'giving in' and I might just crash, the house build would stop and we'll lose everything.
Ok ,tea break and moan over, thanks for reading, I'm going out to make a new doorway. I'm thinking positive and lightened having got some of that off my chest.
Tiredness and stress/depression are closely linked. You don't get good quality sleep as the brain is too busy trying to work on the anxiety, you wake up tired and stressed so it only gets worse. I've seen depression described as a sleep disorder for this reason.
Depressed people spend more time in REM sleep state - dreaming - than other people. This means they get less deep sleep, where the body refreshes itself. Too much rem/dreaming uses up energy, meaning the mind is tiring itself out when you're asleep, paradoxically.
Depressed people spend more time in REM sleep state - dreaming - than other people. This means they get less deep sleep, where the body refreshes itself. Too much rem/dreaming uses up energy, meaning the mind is tiring itself out when you're asleep, paradoxically.
I'm just wondering if anyone here has suffered with big mood swings or man monthlies as I call it?
I've had a roller coaster ride for the last 18 months for various reasons and noticed when I'm low I get this real kind of dark rage roll in, (if that makes sense.)
It's a bit hard to describe, but it's just like a sort of dark cloud/mood that just sits there. I know when it's coming, I can feel it but nothing I can do to stop or control it other than warn/apologise the mrs that it's set in.
Odd I know, just wondered if anyone else has had anything similar when they've been feeling down, or struggling with things.
I only get it when I'm a bit low or have things coming up that are playing on my mind.
My eczema normally flairs up at the same time.
I've had a roller coaster ride for the last 18 months for various reasons and noticed when I'm low I get this real kind of dark rage roll in, (if that makes sense.)
It's a bit hard to describe, but it's just like a sort of dark cloud/mood that just sits there. I know when it's coming, I can feel it but nothing I can do to stop or control it other than warn/apologise the mrs that it's set in.
Odd I know, just wondered if anyone else has had anything similar when they've been feeling down, or struggling with things.
I only get it when I'm a bit low or have things coming up that are playing on my mind.
My eczema normally flairs up at the same time.
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