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xjay1337 said:
feeling the same as you lately bud.
The worst thing for me is little comments made by my friends.. sure it's in jest but i take it quite personally and it gets me down.
we play games online and i try to do it well and make an effort to be good.
i may accidentally "steal" a goal and then they all start jibing at me saying how i'm a huge goal stealer. just gets you down.
Yes, try to shrug off as banter but find the more I don't want it to affect me the more it affects me! Negative thoughts seem to cling like magnet.The worst thing for me is little comments made by my friends.. sure it's in jest but i take it quite personally and it gets me down.
we play games online and i try to do it well and make an effort to be good.
i may accidentally "steal" a goal and then they all start jibing at me saying how i'm a huge goal stealer. just gets you down.
It's hard sometimes suffering from depression as you can't really show people how you are feeling unlike physical injuries.
It is a thin line between banter and actually ripping into people.
Very quickly can get into a pack mentality.
Are you on any medication bud?
I would avoid the booze this may help you in the short term but it doesn't really do anything for you long term.
eating is my cure and while not ideal it is still better than nothing.
I've not been taking my meds, I was on them this time for about 8 months and I just stopped one day.
Although I am thinking I need to start again, my highs are higher now but also my lows are lower and I'd rather just be a more level headed person.
Very quickly can get into a pack mentality.
Are you on any medication bud?
I would avoid the booze this may help you in the short term but it doesn't really do anything for you long term.
eating is my cure and while not ideal it is still better than nothing.
I've not been taking my meds, I was on them this time for about 8 months and I just stopped one day.
Although I am thinking I need to start again, my highs are higher now but also my lows are lower and I'd rather just be a more level headed person.
crazy about cars said:
Maybe I should also lay off the booze but that's what keeps me sane sometimes.
I have had a difficult time with booze and anxiety. I know for a fact, for me at least, that booze makes the anxiety worse, much worse, the next day. However as you have said sometimes it can help. I know if I drink I will feel bad the next day, but for those few hours when I am drinking I feel much better. You get a few hours of respite but much more the next day.It is also too easy to just grab a drink. When I feel really bad I could go for a run or bike ride etc and know that I will feel better afterwards and will feel better the next day. But sometimes that it is just too much effort. Especially when you are stuck in a rut. Trying to break free is hard, getting a drink isn't. Even though I know it wont help in the long run.
944fan said:
I have had a difficult time with booze and anxiety. I know for a fact, for me at least, that booze makes the anxiety worse, much worse, the next day. However as you have said sometimes it can help. I know if I drink I will feel bad the next day, but for those few hours when I am drinking I feel much better. You get a few hours of respite but much more the next day.
It is also too easy to just grab a drink. When I feel really bad I could go for a run or bike ride etc and know that I will feel better afterwards and will feel better the next day. But sometimes that it is just too much effort. Especially when you are stuck in a rut. Trying to break free is hard, getting a drink isn't. Even though I know it wont help in the long run.
Would have written exactly the same myself - well said. If you can break free (couch to 5k, walks, sport), you should be much happier.It is also too easy to just grab a drink. When I feel really bad I could go for a run or bike ride etc and know that I will feel better afterwards and will feel better the next day. But sometimes that it is just too much effort. Especially when you are stuck in a rut. Trying to break free is hard, getting a drink isn't. Even though I know it wont help in the long run.
Ruskie said:
Anybody would struggle with their emotions in such a situation, your reaction is normal.crazy about cars said:
Not on medication at the moment (except one for my ADD).
I was on various antidepresants throughout my 20s but none seem to really work for me. I don't really enjoy the side effects.
Looking into Couch to 5K. Perhaps I need a healthy distraction.
I only tried Sertraline but I had horrid side effects and no discernible positive impact form them. Other people I know who have taken them see them as life changers (even savers) so they are not for everyone.I was on various antidepresants throughout my 20s but none seem to really work for me. I don't really enjoy the side effects.
Looking into Couch to 5K. Perhaps I need a healthy distraction.
I have learnt enough about my self and my anxiety over the last two years to realise that diet, booze, exercise all have a significant impact on the way I feel. These last two years (2014 & 2015) I have given up drinking in January and got in to exercising in a big way. For some reason or another in Autumn/Winter it all goes wrong. I stop doing the exercise and I start drinking again. The last two winters are the time when my anxiety has been at its worst. I know that SAD is a recognised disorder and perhaps winter is just a bit depressing but I think it is more than that. I was kidding myself that I felt worse in the winter and so that's why I started drinking again. I know now that I felt worse in winter because I started drinking again.
The drinking is the downfall for me. I drink, feel s
t the next day, can't face a 2Km swim with a hangover so do no exercise at all, eat crap. Then sit there wondering why I feel so st. Its a downward spiral that keeps going.I am off sick this whole week from work. It just got to the point where I couldn't face it. I have quit drinking for good now and I intend to stick to it. I am taking things a step at a time. Stop drinking, then will ease back in to the exercise, starting eating right again. I think having the week off will give me some time to rest and also allow me to drag myself out of the rut without additional distractions and stress that might drag me down again.
What that was a long winded way of saying and why I quoted your post is to say that yes give something like Couch to 5K ago. Running isn't for everyone but all you need is some trainers. That same feeling I said I felt when I drank, that hour or so of feeling better, I also get that when I exercise, and I don't feel so s
t the next day. Exercise is good because it is a distraction but you are also getting some biological benefits. Plus you can make it as sociable or not as you want. I am not a very sociable person so I like to run alone and get some time on my own. My wife on the other hand is very sociable and almost exclusively runs in a club and rarely alone. There is a good piece on that here by my favourite inspiration person James Cracknell:http://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/the-runnin...
johnwilliams77 said:
944fan said:
I have had a difficult time with booze and anxiety. I know for a fact, for me at least, that booze makes the anxiety worse, much worse, the next day. However as you have said sometimes it can help. I know if I drink I will feel bad the next day, but for those few hours when I am drinking I feel much better. You get a few hours of respite but much more the next day.
It is also too easy to just grab a drink. When I feel really bad I could go for a run or bike ride etc and know that I will feel better afterwards and will feel better the next day. But sometimes that it is just too much effort. Especially when you are stuck in a rut. Trying to break free is hard, getting a drink isn't. Even though I know it wont help in the long run.
Would have written exactly the same myself - well said. If you can break free (couch to 5k, walks, sport), you should be much happier.It is also too easy to just grab a drink. When I feel really bad I could go for a run or bike ride etc and know that I will feel better afterwards and will feel better the next day. But sometimes that it is just too much effort. Especially when you are stuck in a rut. Trying to break free is hard, getting a drink isn't. Even though I know it wont help in the long run.
I am 37 and since just before I was 30 had depression on an off with anxiety the worst times 30 to 33 were coupled with drinking which got out of control.
Now thing is for those few hours your having a cold beer etc you feel better no doubt but next day or even later that night when your very drunk the joy leaves you like the 8am train to london down a tunnel no looking back.
It took me I would say 4 years to break the cycle but maybe a little less to get a system going. I drink now an again maybe 3 or 4 times a year an by drink I mean 1 or 2 with a meal (its now more like 1 than 2) and then once a year I go out with a group of close friends for a blokes night out that I know will get messy.
I plan for this so know the next day I will feel bit ropey etc but also know while the other guys are having sunday meal an drop of wine I have to be back to soft drinks etc. It was hard at first but I am fine now and just avoid beer on the whole.
When I am down I watch a movie, playplaystation, go into town, eat a chocolate bar, listen to some music, go for a walk (if I still had a bike I would go for a short ride etc). The anxiety in reality passes fairly quickly unlike a hangover.
So try an find other options but dont beat yourself up if you cant do it each time. Also I found I liked the process of drinking i.e. beer in a pint glass etc, so to start with I cut down by having a bottle of beer but pouring it in a glass, same sensation less alcohol etc, then tried 1 beer 1 coke (I would order then together not que for a coke lol) Make it a pint of coke so your full also.
then make it a half of beet an pint of coke etc. Breaking the cycle is key. I know now I will never be a friday night after work drinker thoes days are gone but I am also no longer a depressed alcoholic so there is a big upside.
Was hoping not to be posting back here, but st has hit the fan again.
In the space of a week I was in a car crash and had my car written off, my parents split up, got told I'm gonna lose my home and need to find somewhere else to live, had a heart attack 4 days before my 21st birthday which means I've lost my driving and bike licence, I can't work, probably going to lose my main job, lost my secondary job already because of it.
Depression came straight back and kicked me down badly but it was okay, I've got my girlfriend still, at least someone can help me through this.. HA. Nope. She ended things because she couldn't handle my heart attack and the potential serious issues that come with it. Never felt so low it my life, it has been horrible and made worse by the fact that I'm sat at home on my own, unable to work and too ill to get out and about. I reacted badly to the break up and said some harsh things and now she's made it that I'm in the wrong, meaning I've spent the past month saying sorry and trying to make things up with her, although that's failing miserably.
Sorry for the rant, just need to get it off my chest.
t has hit the fan again.In the space of a week I was in a car crash and had my car written off, my parents split up, got told I'm gonna lose my home and need to find somewhere else to live, had a heart attack 4 days before my 21st birthday which means I've lost my driving and bike licence, I can't work, probably going to lose my main job, lost my secondary job already because of it.
Depression came straight back and kicked me down badly but it was okay, I've got my girlfriend still, at least someone can help me through this.. HA. Nope. She ended things because she couldn't handle my heart attack and the potential serious issues that come with it. Never felt so low it my life, it has been horrible and made worse by the fact that I'm sat at home on my own, unable to work and too ill to get out and about. I reacted badly to the break up and said some harsh things and now she's made it that I'm in the wrong, meaning I've spent the past month saying sorry and trying to make things up with her, although that's failing miserably.
Sorry for the rant, just need to get it off my chest.
Sorry to hear about the st you've been through.
Firstly you have your life still - so that is the most important thing.
Second, don't bother talking to the ex Gf. I suspect it was an excuse to leave rather than a genuine concern. If you actually care you don't leave someone because of a health scare.
Why did you lose your driving licenses?
t you've been through. Firstly you have your life still - so that is the most important thing.
Second, don't bother talking to the ex Gf. I suspect it was an excuse to leave rather than a genuine concern. If you actually care you don't leave someone because of a health scare.
Why did you lose your driving licenses?
xjay1337 said:
Sorry to hear about the st you've been through.
Firstly you have your life still - so that is the most important thing.
Second, don't bother talking to the ex Gf. I suspect it was an excuse to leave rather than a genuine concern. If you actually care you don't leave someone because of a health scare.
Why did you lose your driving licenses?
I wouldn't say she was looking for an excuse, but things were a bit bumpy before all this happened. I lost my licences because they don't know the cause which means it could happen again anytime, and if it does while driving then it could be very dangerous. t you've been through. Firstly you have your life still - so that is the most important thing.
Second, don't bother talking to the ex Gf. I suspect it was an excuse to leave rather than a genuine concern. If you actually care you don't leave someone because of a health scare.
Why did you lose your driving licenses?
Ruskie said:
Brilliant, brilliant news Ruskie!!All the best for the future.
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Ruskie said:
Great news, Ruskie.So you got off that train, I remember that blog. It was a horrible read so carry on sending that train of doom down the rails.
Stay where you are and carry on moving in the right direction.
You was stronger than what you thought.
Brilliant.
crazy about cars said:
Anyone here experience constant negative thoughts/feelings, easy to succumb to anxiety, dont like socialising (although dying for a soulmate) and seemingly on a path of self destruct by pissing off those who really care about you?
I have documented all of the above in my blog. Those exact things.Gassing Station | Health Matters | Top of Page | What's New | My Stuff