The training diet thread

[chris watton]

Does anyone else use coconut oil for frying?

Just did myself two chicken breast saugages, a lean steak and 2 eggs - lovely!

[dirty boy]

chris watton said:

Does anyone else use coconut oil for frying?

Just did myself two chicken breast saugages, a lean steak and 2 eggs - lovely!

I've used coconut oil for about 3 years now.

I even put a drop in my black coffee

If you're lucky, you can find it for about a 1/3rd of the price in the 'world foods' sections in some supermarkets, otherwise you pay through the nose for it everywhere else.

[LordGrover]

Halb said:

cliffe_mafia said:

I only saw the part about the supermarkets investigating insects as a source of protein. Pound per pound cockroaches have more protein than steak and are a lot cheaper to farm. Yum.

O knew about the insect thing a while ago, 70% protein some of them or greater. They really are the gainers food.
...

I tried to source some, just to try but remarkably expensive, at least where I found them.

chris watton said:

Does anyone else use coconut oil for frying?

Just did myself two chicken breast saugages, a lean steak and 2 eggs - lovely!

I find the taste of coconut overpowering. Good for some things though.

[Halb]

LordGrover said:

Halb said:

cliffe_mafia said:

I only saw the part about the supermarkets investigating insects as a source of protein. Pound per pound cockroaches have more protein than steak and are a lot cheaper to farm. Yum.

O knew about the insect thing a while ago, 70% protein some of them or greater. They really are the gainers food.
...

I tried to source some, just to try but remarkably expensive, at least where I found them.

chris watton said:

Does anyone else use coconut oil for frying?

Just did myself two chicken breast saugages, a lean steak and 2 eggs - lovely!

I find the taste of coconut overpowering. Good for some things though.

You could source them from your garden?

I love coconut, but I only want the flavour in a few things. Porridge is nice.

[Eleven]

LordGrover said:

I find the taste of coconut overpowering. Good for some things though.

Me too. I was using as a pre-training fat loss aid. It made me want to vom half way through training though, so I gave it up.

[LordGrover]

Fill yer boots...
Chocolate locusts: click.
Mealworms & Crickets: click.
Spicy crickets: click.

ETA
These look more reasonable: Bush grub.

[Otispunkmeyer]

chris watton said:

Does anyone else use coconut oil for frying?

Just did myself two chicken breast saugages, a lean steak and 2 eggs - lovely!

Yep use it to lightly fry grated cauliflower as a rice alternative. Chop in a few spring onions and it goes really well with a chilli.

[chris watton]

I can't taste the coconut oil in the food I fry it with, but it does stink out the kitchen!

[Flibble]

Halb said:

Getting ton the heart of the matter over tryptophan/melatonin late at night, and the quality of EVOO in UK supermarkets.

What was the gist of the tryptophan / melatonin thing?

[Halb]

Erm, from what I recall, you have to have the carbs to allow the tryptophan to get passed the amino acids (I think) and help a good nights sleep. Just protein/fat alone won't do it.

They did show the 'night milk' which has 10 times the normal amount of melatonin in it. It was touching on the old wives tale of 'drink your milk at night' for a good night's sleep.

Tomorrow's show hits on what meat eats, does it make a difference.

[Flibble]

So I watched it on 4od and that seemed to be the gist of what they said; the carb thing is that carbs raise insulin levels which causes your muscles to absorb more BCAAs (but not tryptophan which isn't a BCAA) so there is then relatively more tryptophan in the blood vs other amino acids, and more gets into your brain.

The night milk seems a bit dubious though, since the amount of melatonin it contains is still way below the effective dose. Looked expensive too, one site reckoned €25 for 16 packs (which I assume is 16 portions)!

Edited by Flibble on Sunday 29th March 23:40

[Halb]

I purchased some of that Arla stuff this week.

The yoghurt and quark...bloody lovely. It was on offer in Tesco, so got three of each. Hope it's still on offer next week.

[LordGrover]

Why, what is it? It just looks like milk that's been fked about with.

Proper milk for me please.

[Halb]

LordGrover said:

Why, what is it? It just looks like milk that's been fked about with.

Proper milk for me please.

Ahh, Jersey milk! I'll have to try some!

Seen the Arla adverts? Fage is the only competitor I can think off, I didn't realise the quark was quark, though I've had quark before, it's hidden away in the cheese aisle.

I bought the flavoured Arla yoghurt, not realising one was yoghurt was was classed as quark. Blueberry, loganberry and sour cherry. Delicious! There are also unflavoured pots. The per100g protein is 11g (might different for different ones) which is greater than the per100 for zero fage.

[LordGrover]

Nope, no adverts. Their website is all marketing speak and no info.

[LordGrover]

Had a look at Fage: yoghurt but it appears to be yoghurt, just another brand. What's wrong with normal yoghurt.

[Halb]

Fage and Arla are quite hard yoghurts, it won't run, quark is a tad thicker (I think), it wouldn't run if you turn it upside down. It has a nice creamy texture compared to the sploppy stuff that gets sold as yoghurt here.

The Arla advert is of that Icelander boy running all round the island. As far as I know only Arla and Fage have such high protein content. Fage is a tad sour, can be mixed with different things.

[LordGrover]

Okay, thanks.
Think I'll stick to what I know - food's been around for a while now and I view new 'foods' with some scepticism.

[Halb]

LordGrover said:

Okay, thanks.
Think I'll stick to what I know - food's been around for a while now and I view new 'foods' with some scepticism.

Well Arla has been around for longer than most brands on the supermarket shelf, which is probably why it's yoghurt is more traditional, and quark has been around since cattle were domesticated. The 'new' foods are the stty products peddled as yoghurt as Brits know them.

[LordGrover]

Hmmm. Huge conglomerate which owns many familiar brands like Anchor and Lurpack so probably no better or worse than the rest, unless you seek out the alternatives.