PH Transformation Thread 2012 - Chat

PH Transformation Thread 2012 - Chat

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Sushi

858 posts

201 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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fk you guys!
fk you in the ass!





I did my cardio after weights last night, I stepped off the cross trainer, stumbled 4 or 5 steps before managing to regain my composure, looked around to see 2 young ladies sniggering frown
I can see why you reccomend it, it was a much better workout, but damn it hurts this morning. I think I'll have to keep it up, and hopefully my legs will hold up better next time smile

I'm at an odd stage on the treadmill now though, I feel as though I'm walking to fast to be walking, it's difficult to explain, but it's like I've reached a speed where it would be more comfortable running? Anyone had this before?
My usual treadmill is 25 minutes
start 4% incline at 5.0kph for 5 mins
then 8% incline at 6.0kph for 5 mins
then 6% incline at 5.0kph for 5 mins
then 10% incline at 6.0kph for 5 mins
then 6% incline at 5.0kph for 5 mins
at 6kph I'm really not sure if I should be jogging or walking.

LordGrover

33,546 posts

213 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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6kph is definitely still a walk for most people, probably 7.5-8.0kph is a fast walk.
I start jogging about 9.0-9.5kph and more of a run about 14-15kph.

Smitters

4,004 posts

158 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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theshrew said:
Thats good going mate if id gone that far on my bike no way id be able to run the next day and especially at that speed. Actually i wouldnt be able to run that speed anyway 24.56 is my best 5k and that was only doing 5k.

My mates are trying to get me to enter hell runner pretty tempted but need to up the training if i did that.
Cheers very much. I was quite surprised to be able to run to be honest, but the bike was a must. I've entered a 43 mile mountain bike enduro in mid-May and haven't done any offroad riding this year yet. How I felt after three hours has me seriously worried if I'm faced with five plus in a month...

As for Hellrunner - go for it. Looks very reasonable in price for one of the obstacle type races and it's a cracking target to aim for with plenty of time to train.

@Sushi - I'm with you. I reckon about 6kph is the maximum walking speed for a treadmill. Try knocking it up to 8kph and jogging gently

deadmau5

3,197 posts

181 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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I weighed myself this morning and I haven't lost any weight since last Tuesday.

My diet is meat and veg with no direct source of carbs. I've been consuming 1500-1800 calories a day which is why I'm very surprised no more weight loss has occurred. I was 14st 8lbs this morning for reference. I lost 10lbs in the first two weeks.

Is it possible that I'm not eating enough? Or could I be eating too much?

LordGrover

33,546 posts

213 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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The first two weeks was probably mostly water loss.
If you're training you're probably gaining muscle while losing d=fat so overall mass remains pretty much constant.
Rely on the tape measure and photos/mirror for what's actually changing.

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Yeah. Are you 'looking better' in the mirror? Do old trousers now fit etc.biggrin

Ordinary_Chap

Original Poster:

7,520 posts

244 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Sushi said:
fk you guys!
fk you in the ass!





I did my cardio after weights last night, I stepped off the cross trainer, stumbled 4 or 5 steps before managing to regain my composure, looked around to see 2 young ladies sniggering frown
I can see why you reccomend it, it was a much better workout, but damn it hurts this morning. I think I'll have to keep it up, and hopefully my legs will hold up better next time smile

I'm at an odd stage on the treadmill now though, I feel as though I'm walking to fast to be walking, it's difficult to explain, but it's like I've reached a speed where it would be more comfortable running? Anyone had this before?
My usual treadmill is 25 minutes
start 4% incline at 5.0kph for 5 mins
then 8% incline at 6.0kph for 5 mins
then 6% incline at 5.0kph for 5 mins
then 10% incline at 6.0kph for 5 mins
then 6% incline at 5.0kph for 5 mins
at 6kph I'm really not sure if I should be jogging or walking.
Personally buddy I don't do cardio after training legs but I do on other training nights.

And yes its usually much harder!

deadmau5

3,197 posts

181 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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LordGrover said:
The first two weeks was probably mostly water loss.
If you're training you're probably gaining muscle while losing d=fat so overall mass remains pretty much constant.
Rely on the tape measure and photos/mirror for what's actually changing.
I hadn't really considered that, but it would seem the most logical reason.

Ordinary_Chap

Original Poster:

7,520 posts

244 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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deadmau5 said:
LordGrover said:
The first two weeks was probably mostly water loss.
If you're training you're probably gaining muscle while losing d=fat so overall mass remains pretty much constant.
Rely on the tape measure and photos/mirror for what's actually changing.
I hadn't really considered that, but it would seem the most logical reason.
As LG rightly pointed out its entirely possible especially for a newbie trainer to lose fat and gain muscle.

I actually always do that when I start training hard, my weight remains constant but my body composition changes.

I like using pictures once a week, it helps me see change.

deadmau5

3,197 posts

181 months

Tuesday 24th April 2012
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Ordinary_Chap said:
deadmau5 said:
LordGrover said:
The first two weeks was probably mostly water loss.
If you're training you're probably gaining muscle while losing d=fat so overall mass remains pretty much constant.
Rely on the tape measure and photos/mirror for what's actually changing.
I hadn't really considered that, but it would seem the most logical reason.
As LG rightly pointed out its entirely possible especially for a newbie trainer to lose fat and gain muscle.

I actually always do that when I start training hard, my weight remains constant but my body composition changes.

I like using pictures once a week, it helps me see change.
I've been training three times a week since October; I'm past 'newbie gains' I'd say.

I'll measure my fat again tonight as foolishly that was the only measurement I took before I began cutting.


JonnyFive

29,398 posts

190 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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I need abit of advice on weight loss, is this thread the right place to ask? smile

Ordinary_Chap

Original Poster:

7,520 posts

244 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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JonnyFive said:
I need abit of advice on weight loss, is this thread the right place to ask? smile
Sure tell us about your training & diet.

Lee

JonnyFive

29,398 posts

190 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Ordinary_Chap said:
JonnyFive said:
I need abit of advice on weight loss, is this thread the right place to ask? smile
Sure tell us about your training & diet.

Lee
Excellent! - Apologies, it's abit long, I'm just starting though and have no idea hehe

Well, I'm overweight, and very unfit. Desk job and not bothered about what I eat for ages, but decided to change it. I've guessed at 20stone, haven't measured myself yet but will tonight at the gym (Only found out today they've got scales!).

I'm using MyFitnessPal on the iPhone to track what I eat.. But basically, didn't used to eat breakfast, few biscuits midmorning, I used to have whatever sandwich, Crisps, Can of drink, chocolate bar or whatever for lunch.. And dinner was chips/wedges with something like breaded chicken etc.

Have started having cheerios for breakfast, a 'Healthy' Sandwich or a Salad for lunch <400 calories, and a little thing of fruit too. I've a bag of carrots for if I get hungry in the afternoon. Dinner I've just had Cheerios for the past 2 days as I'm not really sure on what to have? Also cut out all drinks bar water, and am getting through around 1.5L at work and another 1L at the gym.

At the gym I'm very unfit, last night I done 10 minutes on the cross trainer (Find this pretty boring and difficult) and 8 miles on the bikes (I love cycling). Day before that only managed 7 minutes on the Cross Trainer, and we done some upper body weights. I don't want to do much weights at the moment as I'm pretty big built as it is, but need to drop the fat off first. I'm not a fan of running at all, but really enjoy cycling, and looking at the information thing on the bike last night was burning calories pretty well too.

Main things;

What do people eat for dinner?
What amount of calories should I be aiming to burn off at the gym each night?
MFP has put me on around 1900 calories.. Seem alright?
If I do atleast 10 miles of cycling per session at the gym, with other stuff also, is that fine? Gets the heart rate going and burns calories, and I enjoy it, so seems good to me..

Cheers! smile

Edited by JonnyFive on Wednesday 25th April 15:14

GBDG

896 posts

155 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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MyFitnesspal is great, it will really help you. 1,900 calories sounds fine, but up this is you become more active or start to feel like you're lacking energy.

In terms of diet, try to take in protein with every meal. Protein is fantastic when you're at a calorie deficit as it really helps to feel full.

Try to take in slow release carbs like brown rice, whomeal pasta and vegtables.

Avoid any sugar. This may not be practical, but sugar will give you cravings and make your life harder. You should particularly avoid any sugar at breakfast.

Your best friend is vegtables & salad. You can basically eat these to your hearts content as they are so few calories, with the benefit of being good for you.

I'd reconsider your thoughts on weights. Weight training burns a good number of calories and will benefit you in other ways. I wouldn't worry about getting "bigger" - when eating a calorie defecit it's very hard to build muscle. It's also much less boring than cardio.

Any form of activity is fine, as long as you're at a calorie defecit you'll lose weight.

JonnyFive

29,398 posts

190 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Thanks for the advice chaps, much appreciated.

I've cut out all of the st food, all of it. Theres still some junk in my work draw that I used to have, biscuits etc, but the others in the office are making their way though that stuff.. I'm only eating carrot for a snack if I get hungry.

I did read that about weights, being good to burn calories.. I guess because it doesn't give you a read out of what you're burning, it doesn't feel like you are burning anything.

So if I take on 1500 calories, I've got to aim to burn 1500 calories in the gym? Correct?

Thanks! smile

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

177 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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NeMiSiS said:
Never go the gym hungry as it will just put you off and make your visit miserable.

Don't wear spandex, definitely don’t wear Spandex.
Purple lycra? idea

LordGrover

33,546 posts

213 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Who was it on here that went to a gym and was followed about by an 'odd' starey bloke wearing lycra, black socks and slip-on shoes or something? Made me smile. hehe

Lost_BMW

12,955 posts

177 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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LordGrover said:
Who was it on here that went to a gym and was followed about by an 'odd' starey bloke wearing lycra, black socks and slip-on shoes or something? Made me smile. hehe
I think the answer is near, very near!

JonnyFive

29,398 posts

190 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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Luckily we have no weird lycra people at my gym, except a few females.. Nice! hehe

Ordinary_Chap

Original Poster:

7,520 posts

244 months

Wednesday 25th April 2012
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JonnyFive said:
So if I take on 1500 calories, I've got to aim to burn 1500 calories in the gym? Correct?

Thanks! smile
See the PH masses to the rescue again!

Your body requires a certain amount of calories to survive each day. The calorie count is calculated on BMR (Basal metabolic rate) and obviously if you exercise the amount will be higher.

Your aim is to calculate the required amount of calories and then create a calorie deficit. Personally I'd suggest no more than a maximum of your BMR - 750 calories.

Eat too little will result in lots of hunger and this generally means folk fall off the bandwagon!