Well, it depends on how far he's taking things. Let's worry about him getting from 9% BF to 8% BF later on.

Edit: I do agree in principle with you both, of course. I tend to avoid social outings these days apart from my once-a-week family get-together simple because it's easier to control my food intake.

Sure, but I am under the impression he's not even there yet...

Don't worry. We could have done this by posting one massive reply covering all aspects of nutrition and dieting, and it'd have gone over your head (or at least you'd have forgotten it all) but I approve of such discussions because it helps people like yourself to understand what it takes to lose weight and what is and isn't possible.

In the ideal world, you'd eat perfect, healthy meals with the precise nutritional requirements and do the perfect exercise, with perfect form, lifting the best weights, getting progressively heavier and heavier with no injuries. You'd stick religiously to your eating plan and never need to party or crave bad food or to bother with work because you retired selling your biotech company at the age of 25 for £50bn. Your wife would be a stunning model with a PhD in rocket surgery and go like a we every night. In the morning, she'd prepare your breakfast and wash your fleet of cars before coming back to wake you up with a blowjob.

Sadly, this is not the ideal world. We all have cravings for norty food.

Actually, in the ideal world, you'd be able to eat salt and vinegar crisps and live disease-free for ever. And attract hot female graduates.

My weight this morning at 5 am was up !!! fking up - only 93.3 Kg's

But I Left the house this morning at 5.30 and got back at 8pm so not much time for exercise

I think the key that a lot of folk miss is as your weight decreases you also need to make sure you decrease your calorie intake with it and keep tuning your training and weight as it goes down otherwise you will plateau.

In terms of the cycle, if you could go out of your way and do 5-10 miles or increase the cycle ride on a weekly basis that would help with your overall weight loss. Also its worth upping the intensity of the ride to keep getting fitter and pushing yourself.

The biggest mistake novices to training make is to keep doing the same things they did when initial weight loss occurred, you've got to keep pushing yourself until you are at a level you are entirely happy with and want to sustain which for someone who hasn't trained for a long time should be far away.

92.9 kg on Friday Morning, but evening meal last night involved chocolate tart.

Given that I'm feeling bloated right now I wonder at my next weigh in (Tuesday am) what I'll be.

Still, I've agreed to play table tennis on Monday Night, and in a bit I'll take the dog for a walk on the beach.

I'm going to attempt to put some shorts on that I've not worn since 2004.

You had fun... and that's allowed because it keeps you sane. Now get back to work!

This morning I was 92.6 kg which is almost back on track, but following an evening cycle ride and a light meal, I'm still 92.6. I've noticed that I typically loose 0.5 to 1 kg whilst I'm asleep, and go back up between 0.4 and 0.9 kg during the day, and my lightest is usually at 6 am when I choose to weigh myself originally. (Do I think I'm obsessed yet ? Just finding it interesting, to take an interest in how my body weight changes)

I like a bit of data analysis, so today I plotted a graph that is 70+ data points, where each data point is the average weight lost in the last 7 days, which removes the daily fluctuations. On top of the graph I got excel to do a trend line. In 50 days I'll be loosing no weight at all, if I believe that.

Come to the conclusion that In the past I would have given up at this point. I'm no longer technically obese, just overweight, and so I'd start to add the odd cake and reduce my exercise and have some supper.

Instead I've decided that it's 2.5 weeks til my holiday, and I'm definately going to beat 90kg's by then (my original target was 80 kg by then, but now that's a Christmas Present for myself)

Yeah but no but.

If I weigh myself at the same time every morning then it's all about even. anyway 92.1 kg this morning following my long cycle ride yesterday. I'm off climbing in 20 mins.

On the next day I was 91 Kg, then I went on holiday, (which included a wedding) which involved 7 days of beer, cheese, cake, wine, and beer. and cooked breakfasts. I weighed in at 93.3 this morning. So 80 kg is still a firm target by christmas, but I've lost 4 weeks of effort in one week of binge