Login | Register
SearchMy Stuff
My ProfileMy PreferencesMy Mates RSS Feed
1 2 ... 5 6
8
Reply to Topic
Author Discussion

Hoofy

55,375 posts

166 months

[news] 
Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
Ordinary_Chap said:
I'd consider that counter productive even if it is within his daily allowance and once body fat gets to lower levels it will certainly hamper progress.
Well, it depends on how far he's taking things. Let's worry about him getting from 9% BF to 8% BF later on.

Edit: I do agree in principle with you both, of course. I tend to avoid social outings these days apart from my once-a-week family get-together simple because it's easier to control my food intake.

Edited by Hoofy on Tuesday 17th July 14:43

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

127 months

[news] 
Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
Hoofy said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
I'd consider that counter productive even if it is within his daily allowance and once body fat gets to lower levels it will certainly hamper progress.
Well, it depends on how far he's taking things. Let's worry about him getting from 9% BF to 8% BF later on.
I'm talking 15% and less.

Its simple if you are eating foods that compromise the diet then you are at odds with the goal even if it works in the short term.

All calories are simply not equal.

Hoofy

55,375 posts

166 months

[news] 
Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
Ordinary_Chap said:
I'm talking 15% and less.

Its simple if you are eating foods that compromise the diet then you are at odds with the goal even if it works in the short term.

All calories are simply not equal.
Sure, but I am under the impression he's not even there yet...

fatpasty

1,561 posts

50 months

[news] 
Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
Sorry guys. Wish I never ate that little piece of cake now!! haha

It was only a small slice as I'm not a sweet fan. And it was the first real naughty / bad cals I've taken in for just over 2 weeks. Maybe it wont be to bad for me. I'll just burn the extra cals tonight in the sack with the OH. That will make everything right! wink

Hoofy

55,375 posts

166 months

[news] 
Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
fatpasty said:
Sorry guys. Wish I never ate that little piece of cake now!! haha

It was only a small slice as I'm not a sweet fan. And it was the first real naughty / bad cals I've taken in for just over 2 weeks. Maybe it wont be to bad for me. I'll just burn the extra cals tonight in the sack with the OH. That will make everything right! wink
Don't worry. We could have done this by posting one massive reply covering all aspects of nutrition and dieting, and it'd have gone over your head (or at least you'd have forgotten it all) but I approve of such discussions because it helps people like yourself to understand what it takes to lose weight and what is and isn't possible.

In the ideal world, you'd eat perfect, healthy meals with the precise nutritional requirements and do the perfect exercise, with perfect form, lifting the best weights, getting progressively heavier and heavier with no injuries. You'd stick religiously to your eating plan and never need to party or crave bad food or to bother with work because you retired selling your biotech company at the age of 25 for £50bn. Your wife would be a stunning model with a PhD in rocket surgery and go like a we every night. In the morning, she'd prepare your breakfast and wash your fleet of cars before coming back to wake you up with a blowjob.

Sadly, this is not the ideal world. We all have cravings for norty food.

Actually, in the ideal world, you'd be able to eat salt and vinegar crisps and live disease-free for ever. And attract hot female graduates.

Edited by Hoofy on Tuesday 17th July 18:53

Advertisement

New POD

Original Poster:

3,851 posts

34 months

[news] 
Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
Flibble said:
New POD said:
They had a few 'technical shoes' on sale, so I did what I've been promising myself for 2 years, and bought a pair.
You will thank yourself for that, they make a huge difference. What were you climbing in before? Less technical shoes or trainers?
Climbing Club Rentals.

New POD

Original Poster:

3,851 posts

34 months

[news] 
Tuesday 17th July 2012 quote quote all
My weight this morning at 5 am was up !!! fking up - only 93.3 Kg's

But I Left the house this morning at 5.30 and got back at 8pm so not much time for exercise

New POD

Original Poster:

3,851 posts

34 months

[news] 
Thursday 19th July 2012 quote quote all
Down to 93.0 This morning, but I had 3 fat laden sausages for tea, with a little half potion of pasta (I'd run out) and veg (tomato, onion and pepper strir fryed in the sausage fat. So I'm guessing tomorrow will be up a little.

Last night I went Went Climbing on my own and did a bit of bouldering (no ropes so no need for a partner). It was bloody knackering, but eventually things seemed to go my way on the easy 'routes'

Got VERY VERY wet cycling HOME both yesterday and today, and need to think about how I'm going to sustain cycling in st weather. Definately need mud guards, and better water proofs. There are showers at my destination, but 2 miles does not really justify the use IMHO.

Ordinary_Chap

7,520 posts

127 months

[news] 
Thursday 19th July 2012 quote quote all
New POD said:
Down to 93.0 This morning, but I had 3 fat laden sausages for tea, with a little half potion of pasta (I'd run out) and veg (tomato, onion and pepper strir fryed in the sausage fat. So I'm guessing tomorrow will be up a little.

Last night I went Went Climbing on my own and did a bit of bouldering (no ropes so no need for a partner). It was bloody knackering, but eventually things seemed to go my way on the easy 'routes'

Got VERY VERY wet cycling HOME both yesterday and today, and need to think about how I'm going to sustain cycling in st weather. Definately need mud guards, and better water proofs. There are showers at my destination, but 2 miles does not really justify the use IMHO.
I think the key that a lot of folk miss is as your weight decreases you also need to make sure you decrease your calorie intake with it and keep tuning your training and weight as it goes down otherwise you will plateau.

In terms of the cycle, if you could go out of your way and do 5-10 miles or increase the cycle ride on a weekly basis that would help with your overall weight loss. Also its worth upping the intensity of the ride to keep getting fitter and pushing yourself.

The biggest mistake novices to training make is to keep doing the same things they did when initial weight loss occurred, you've got to keep pushing yourself until you are at a level you are entirely happy with and want to sustain which for someone who hasn't trained for a long time should be far away.

New POD

Original Poster:

3,851 posts

34 months

[news] 
Thursday 19th July 2012 quote quote all
Ordinary_Chap said:
I think the key that a lot of folk miss is as your weight decreases you also need to make sure you decrease your calorie intake with it and keep tuning your training and weight as it goes down otherwise you will plateau.

In terms of the cycle, if you could go out of your way and do 5-10 miles or increase the cycle ride on a weekly basis that would help with your overall weight loss. Also its worth upping the intensity of the ride to keep getting fitter and pushing yourself.

The biggest mistake novices to training make is to keep doing the same things they did when initial weight loss occurred, you've got to keep pushing yourself until you are at a level you are entirely happy with and want to sustain which for someone who hasn't trained for a long time should be far away.
When the weather has been good I've gone home the long way, or gone home and changed and gone 15 miles out into the sticks, and I always ride as fast as I can, but I take your point - need to keep pushing it.



New POD

Original Poster:

3,851 posts

34 months

[news] 
Saturday 21st July 2012 quote quote all
92.9 kg on Friday Morning, but evening meal last night involved chocolate tart.

Given that I'm feeling bloated right now I wonder at my next weigh in (Tuesday am) what I'll be.

Still, I've agreed to play table tennis on Monday Night, and in a bit I'll take the dog for a walk on the beach.

I'm going to attempt to put some shorts on that I've not worn since 2004.

New POD

Original Poster:

3,851 posts

34 months

[news] 
Tuesday 24th July 2012 quote quote all
Well the beer laden stag night on Saturday means my weight today was 93 Kg so it looks like I'm starting to flat line.

Not a problem, because I'm aware of it, and PH are going to encourage me to step it up and not give up.

Hoofy

55,375 posts

166 months

[news] 
Tuesday 24th July 2012 quote quote all
yes You had fun... and that's allowed because it keeps you sane. Now get back to work!

New POD

Original Poster:

3,851 posts

34 months

[news] 
Tuesday 24th July 2012 quote quote all
Hoofy said:
yes You had fun... and that's allowed because it keeps you sane. Now get back to work!
Strangely I've only ever attended 3 stag nights, and I've arrived home before midnight still almost sober on all of them.

New POD

Original Poster:

3,851 posts

34 months

[news] 
Wednesday 25th July 2012 quote quote all
New POD said:
Well the beer laden stag night on Saturday means my weight today was 93 Kg so it looks like I'm starting to flat line.
This morning I was 92.6 kg which is almost back on track, but following an evening cycle ride and a light meal, I'm still 92.6. I've noticed that I typically loose 0.5 to 1 kg whilst I'm asleep, and go back up between 0.4 and 0.9 kg during the day, and my lightest is usually at 6 am when I choose to weigh myself originally. (Do I think I'm obsessed yet ? Just finding it interesting, to take an interest in how my body weight changes)

I like a bit of data analysis, so today I plotted a graph that is 70+ data points, where each data point is the average weight lost in the last 7 days, which removes the daily fluctuations. On top of the graph I got excel to do a trend line. In 50 days I'll be loosing no weight at all, if I believe that.

Come to the conclusion that In the past I would have given up at this point. I'm no longer technically obese, just overweight, and so I'd start to add the odd cake and reduce my exercise and have some supper.

Instead I've decided that it's 2.5 weeks til my holiday, and I'm definately going to beat 90kg's by then (my original target was 80 kg by then, but now that's a Christmas Present for myself)

Hoofy

55,375 posts

166 months

[news] 
Wednesday 25th July 2012 quote quote all
This is why a million people advised on the internet in the last 5 minutes not to weigh daily.

You dehydrated overnight.

New POD

Original Poster:

3,851 posts

34 months

[news] 
Thursday 26th July 2012 quote quote all
Hoofy said:
This is why a million people advised on the internet in the last 5 minutes not to weigh daily.

You dehydrated overnight.
Yeah but no but.

If I weigh myself at the same time every morning then it's all about even. anyway 92.1 kg this morning following my long cycle ride yesterday. I'm off climbing in 20 mins.

New POD

Original Poster:

3,851 posts

34 months

[news] 
Wednesday 8th August 2012 quote quote all
New POD said:
I bought some scales and weighed in at 102.9 kg on Tuesday Morning

102.8 Wednesday Morning.

1 hour bike ride after work.
Okay Back in May I set myself an unrealistic target of 80 kgs by This coming Friday, but I have since (about early June was when I realised the unreal target was not going to ever happen) revised it to 91 kg's by This Friday, and 80 kg's by Christmas.

This Morning I weighed in at 91.3 kg's Woohoo

Climbing, Cycling, Running with the dog, and an obsession with not eating between meals.


New POD

Original Poster:

3,851 posts

34 months

[news] 
Tuesday 21st August 2012 quote quote all
On the next day I was 91 Kg, then I went on holiday, (which included a wedding) which involved 7 days of beer, cheese, cake, wine, and beer. and cooked breakfasts. I weighed in at 93.3 this morning. So 80 kg is still a firm target by christmas, but I've lost 4 weeks of effort in one week of binge

Sparta VAG

436 posts

31 months

[news] 
Tuesday 21st August 2012 quote quote all
New POD said:
On the next day I was 91 Kg, then I went on holiday, (which included a wedding) which involved 7 days of beer, cheese, cake, wine, and beer. and cooked breakfasts. I weighed in at 93.3 this morning. So 80 kg is still a firm target by christmas, but I've lost 4 weeks of effort in one week of binge
Don't worry too much about this. You've got the routine established for losing weight which is what matters. You'll lose that couple of extra kgs fairly quickly.

1 2 ... 5 6
8
Reply to Topic