Why humans crave fatty foods
Discussion
Hoofy said:
If you feel so strongly, why not campaign to improve standards? I'll give you a year to start it rolling and then I'm signing up to a six week training programme. 
I should. It's a matter of time and effort. If someone paid me to do that instead of PT'ing (for similar money!) then I would gladly.tbh though, I have no idea where to start.
mattikake said:
Hoofy said:
If you feel so strongly, why not campaign to improve standards? I'll give you a year to start it rolling and then I'm signing up to a six week training programme.
I should. It's a matter of time and effort. If someone paid me to do that instead of PT'ing (for similar money!) then I would gladly.tbh though, I have no idea where to start.
Besides, I'm sure you know what will happen. It's unregulated now but as fitness/PTers become more popular, a few uninsured cowboys are going to hurt people, complete with law suits, and before you know it, someone's set up a similar organisation that gets approved by the NHS but promoting ideas that you disagree with.
Edited by Hoofy on Thursday 28th June 17:04
superkartracer said:
Also impressed, Matt do you write diet plans for athletes ?
Not yet really, but I can. I prefer to try not to be too restrictive on a diet plan and see how people get on. Getting strict, IMO, is more likely to make people give-up completely.I have general plans for weightloss, weightgain etc. and they run at different levels depending on the results. So everyone starts at level 1 and if they have trouble sticking to it or aren't seeing the results I expect - due to many factors that have been mentioned on this thread - then I move them up to level 2 and so on.
I also write them in a way that forces the person to understand and identify carbs, fat and protein sources, rather than a literal list of foods. Teaching them to fish.
Although I do have lists of foods for the two most important meals - after a workout and before bed/last meal.
JudgeMental said:
And also Matt, if I may?:
Is there any dietary process/habit that contributes to the formation of moobs?
I'm asking on behalf of a friend :cough:
Different people store fat in different places, in terms of priority. You (sorry, they) could store it mostly there, but I'd expect you to have a good few inches on your gut/hips/triceps/biceps/thighs as well.Is there any dietary process/habit that contributes to the formation of moobs?
I'm asking on behalf of a friend :cough:
The problem is, if someone has good moobs, then they've grown loads of fat cells there. You can't ungrow fat cells, you can only empty them. There will probably always be a bit of flab (seemingly a thicker skin covering), but also will fill them quickly, so it will always be a strict battle to keep them under control than it would for someone who has never had moobs.
Edited by mattikake on Thursday 28th June 18:40
... Continuing on... Where you/they store fat is often hereditary. If your father and/or grandfather was predisposed to moobs it's more likely you will too. As Matt says, not a great deal you can do about it except reduce body fat overall.
I suspect liposuction may be a ‘fix’ but even if the fat cells are removed I believe they'll return given the right conditions so probably better just to lose the BF with a good, healthy diet and exercise.
I suspect liposuction may be a ‘fix’ but even if the fat cells are removed I believe they'll return given the right conditions so probably better just to lose the BF with a good, healthy diet and exercise.
mattikake said:
Basically there are two types of Personal Trainers, f
kwits and people like me.
The fkwit is a drop-out of low intelligence. Being someone of low intelligence, they even chose poorly when deciding what courses to use to become a PT, so they go for fast-track private sector courses like Training Room, Premier Training or an internally gym-funded one where you could become a PT in as little as 6 weeks!
The fkwit, being of low IQ, isn't in it to do a good job.
I guess I'm a fkwits and people like me.The f
kwit is a drop-out of low intelligence. Being someone of low intelligence, they even chose poorly when deciding what courses to use to become a PT, so they go for fast-track private sector courses like Training Room, Premier Training or an internally gym-funded one where you could become a PT in as little as 6 weeks! The f
kwit, being of low IQ, isn't in it to do a good job.kwit of low IQ then, because I am going to do one of those courses.Halb said:
mattikake said:
Basically there are two types of Personal Trainers, fkwits and people like me.
The fkwit is a drop-out of low intelligence. Being someone of low intelligence, they even chose poorly when deciding what courses to use to become a PT, so they go for fast-track private sector courses like Training Room, Premier Training or an internally gym-funded one where you could become a PT in as little as 6 weeks!
The fkwit, being of low IQ, isn't in it to do a good job.
I guess I'm a fkwits and people like me.The f
kwit is a drop-out of low intelligence. Being someone of low intelligence, they even chose poorly when deciding what courses to use to become a PT, so they go for fast-track private sector courses like Training Room, Premier Training or an internally gym-funded one where you could become a PT in as little as 6 weeks! The f
kwit, being of low IQ, isn't in it to do a good job.kwit of low IQ then, because I am going to do one of those courses.I've seen some of the course content. I've seen the paperwork - e.g. for posture assessments. I've seen the theory behind the biology. It's very basic and crap. I've seen and spoken to the PT's they create. I knew more than them halfway through my first year at college than they did with their course and 3 months of work! YOU CANNOT EXPECT TO BE A GOOD PT IN ABOUT 6 WEEKS!
Waste of money. It's almost a scam. Premier is something like £4K and Training Room about £2K last time I was spammed by email (can they not even see I'm on the f
king REPS register!?).My course at college cost me £1005 (£5 for the first year under Labour!). We got lecturers with degrees and doctorates. We have time to quiz them. Have proper lessons and time.
Patience is a virtue and all that.
el stovey said:
Listen to you anti carb followers, it's like religious dogma you're spouting. Blaming carbs for being fat AND making you hungry. 
FFS. Eat a mixed diet and exercise. All things in moderation. It's not rocket science. Carbs aren't making you fat being lazy and eating too much is.
Healthy sporty people eat carbs. Fat people trying to lose weight for a wedding/holiday/operation don't.
Lol couldn't agree more.FFS. Eat a mixed diet and exercise. All things in moderation. It's not rocket science. Carbs aren't making you fat being lazy and eating too much is.
Healthy sporty people eat carbs. Fat people trying to lose weight for a wedding/holiday/operation don't.
I've found the article interesting and also the tv programme (the men that made us fat) but there it is again. Blaming someone else for our fatness.
Ironically the article should only have been a few words in length. People crave fatty food because fat tastes bloody good.
I like a good cut of ribeye because the fat makes the steak taste amazing. Slow roasted belly pork tastes good too, because of the crackling. Duck or goose fat chips are great too.
I eat all that stuff but like you say, in moderation. I admit we're all different but given we've put a man on the moon it really shouldn't be too difficult for us all to learn what make us tick. This, like lack of exercise is just plain laziness.
Halb said:
mattikake said:
Basically there are two types of Personal Trainers, fkwits and people like me.
The fkwit is a drop-out of low intelligence. Being someone of low intelligence, they even chose poorly when deciding what courses to use to become a PT, so they go for fast-track private sector courses like Training Room, Premier Training or an internally gym-funded one where you could become a PT in as little as 6 weeks!
The fkwit, being of low IQ, isn't in it to do a good job.
I guess I'm a fkwits and people like me.The f
kwit is a drop-out of low intelligence. Being someone of low intelligence, they even chose poorly when deciding what courses to use to become a PT, so they go for fast-track private sector courses like Training Room, Premier Training or an internally gym-funded one where you could become a PT in as little as 6 weeks! The f
kwit, being of low IQ, isn't in it to do a good job.kwit of low IQ then, because I am going to do one of those courses.Qualifications certainly don't mean everything when it comes to any career, theory vs practice and experience etc.
BenM77 said:
Halb said:
mattikake said:
Basically there are two types of Personal Trainers, fkwits and people like me.
The fkwit is a drop-out of low intelligence. Being someone of low intelligence, they even chose poorly when deciding what courses to use to become a PT, so they go for fast-track private sector courses like Training Room, Premier Training or an internally gym-funded one where you could become a PT in as little as 6 weeks!
The fkwit, being of low IQ, isn't in it to do a good job.
I guess I'm a fkwits and people like me.The f
kwit is a drop-out of low intelligence. Being someone of low intelligence, they even chose poorly when deciding what courses to use to become a PT, so they go for fast-track private sector courses like Training Room, Premier Training or an internally gym-funded one where you could become a PT in as little as 6 weeks! The f
kwit, being of low IQ, isn't in it to do a good job.kwit of low IQ then, because I am going to do one of those courses.BenM77 said:
Qualifications certainly don't mean everything when it comes to any career, theory vs practice and experience etc.
However, people aren't like computers where you fk one up and just rebuild it and learn on the job. There's background info you need to know in advance. E.g. Get their (overly basic) posture assessment info wrong for a bad back assessment and the next thing is, someone is sueing you for a prolapsed disc or worse you cause permanent injury! Yes, this kind of thing happens.
You're dealing with peoples' health. It's about responsibility. Going at it gun-ho is something that really pisses me off about these kind of courses/people.
I think also, these course don't teach you how to spot and deal with a heart attack. Could be wrong, but on first aid courses you spend half a day on these. That's a lot of time on a 6 week course to spend on something hopefully you'll never need. So I bet they skip it... Any money.
mattikake said:
BenM77 said:
Halb said:
mattikake said:
Basically there are two types of Personal Trainers, fkwits and people like me.
The fkwit is a drop-out of low intelligence. Being someone of low intelligence, they even chose poorly when deciding what courses to use to become a PT, so they go for fast-track private sector courses like Training Room, Premier Training or an internally gym-funded one where you could become a PT in as little as 6 weeks!
The fkwit, being of low IQ, isn't in it to do a good job.
I guess I'm a fkwits and people like me.The f
kwit is a drop-out of low intelligence. Being someone of low intelligence, they even chose poorly when deciding what courses to use to become a PT, so they go for fast-track private sector courses like Training Room, Premier Training or an internally gym-funded one where you could become a PT in as little as 6 weeks! The f
kwit, being of low IQ, isn't in it to do a good job.kwit of low IQ then, because I am going to do one of those courses.BenM77 said:
Qualifications certainly don't mean everything when it comes to any career, theory vs practice and experience etc.
However, people aren't like computers where you fk one up and just rebuild it and learn on the job. There's background info you need to know in advance. E.g. Get their (overly basic) posture assessment info wrong for a bad back assessment and the next thing is, someone is sueing you for a prolapsed disc or worse you cause permanent injury! Yes, this kind of thing happens.
You're dealing with peoples' health. It's about responsibility. Going at it gun-ho is something that really pisses me off about these kind of courses/people.
I think also, these course don't teach you how to spot and deal with a heart attack. Could be wrong, but on first aid courses you spend half a day on these. That's a lot of time on a 6 week course to spend on something hopefully you'll never need. So I bet they skip it... Any money.
BenM77 said:
Maybe one of these courses are a good start that you can add an OU degree to.
Well this is another bain of mine (I have a few! 
) - the principle of education is that it's supposed to be a challenge and difficult to pass, to prove that you know the subject and that it's comprehensive enough that you know everything you need to when you go out to work professionally. Courses should expect failure from some entrants.What's the value of a test if everyone passes?
IMO in principle private sector education that qualified by exam has absolutely no value whatsoever in the real world. They're there to make profit and run a business. Failing students harm their sales. They're simple incompatible at the most fundamental level.
It completely explains why some qualified with these as their training source would recommend using a Deadlift to work your Abs or would need a 1st year Gym Instructor (me) to point out that twisting an ankle inwards is an "Inversion" of the ankle... etc. I kid you not!
Halb said:
I guess I'm a fkwit of low IQ then, because I am going to do one of those courses.
Your as good as what you teach- you seem to know your onions so should do well kwit of low IQ then, because I am going to do one of those courses.Mattikake has a great knowledge, but you can read the same books that he has and accumulate the same knowledge if you have a keen interest to learn in your own time, as he does. If I remember rightly he doled out some pretty poor training advice a several months back, but has obviously put in a lot of hard work since then
Fatman2 said:
Lol couldn't agree more.
I've found the article interesting and also the tv programme (the men that made us fat) but there it is again. Blaming someone else for our fatness.
Ironically the article should only have been a few words in length. People crave fatty food because fat tastes bloody good.
I like a good cut of ribeye because the fat makes the steak taste amazing. Slow roasted belly pork tastes good too, because of the crackling. Duck or goose fat chips are great too.
I eat all that stuff but like you say, in moderation. I admit we're all different but given we've put a man on the moon it really shouldn't be too difficult for us all to learn what make us tick. This, like lack of exercise is just plain laziness.
We don't eat too much fat though that's the thing, it's refined carbs that are the problem, virtually anything in a packet is loaded with them, basically it's snack food. There are slow release carbs, so called 'good carbs', but they are pretty plain and suffer from the same problem as most protein, it's a chore to eat. I've found the article interesting and also the tv programme (the men that made us fat) but there it is again. Blaming someone else for our fatness.
Ironically the article should only have been a few words in length. People crave fatty food because fat tastes bloody good.
I like a good cut of ribeye because the fat makes the steak taste amazing. Slow roasted belly pork tastes good too, because of the crackling. Duck or goose fat chips are great too.
I eat all that stuff but like you say, in moderation. I admit we're all different but given we've put a man on the moon it really shouldn't be too difficult for us all to learn what make us tick. This, like lack of exercise is just plain laziness.
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