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At the risk of being ridiculed...
I'm 21 6ft 5, 14.5 stone (BMI is 24.7) I think!
I was going to the gym every day for a while, got out of routine for 4 weeks with exams and what not,but I'm starting to get back into going every day.
One thing I can't seem to shift though is the moobs! Has anybody had any success in shifting them? Any certain training plans that work? Over to you PH...
I'm 21 6ft 5, 14.5 stone (BMI is 24.7) I think!
I was going to the gym every day for a while, got out of routine for 4 weeks with exams and what not,but I'm starting to get back into going every day.
One thing I can't seem to shift though is the moobs! Has anybody had any success in shifting them? Any certain training plans that work? Over to you PH...
Two things; 1. basically just fat, as your body fat decreases so will moobs & 2. chest/upper body exercises can build up the muscles behind to help improve shape and definition, especially pectorals.
Where your body stores fat is pot luck/genetic. I suspect your father may have/had had moobs too.
Lose the fat and build some muscle - job jobbed.
ETA: mattikake's second reply here: click.
Where your body stores fat is pot luck/genetic. I suspect your father may have/had had moobs too.
Lose the fat and build some muscle - job jobbed.
ETA: mattikake's second reply here: click.
Edited by LordGrover on Friday 6th July 08:32
There's a difference between having too much fat and gynomastia, which is a man having actual proper titties that could be milked.
As has been said, you could have a disposition to fat around the chest. Your BMI (and I know it's only a guideline) is right at the top limit of "not fat" (about where I am), so assuming you aren't exceptionally muscled I think you can safely assume you could drop a bit more weight and they'll melt away.
As has been said, you could have a disposition to fat around the chest. Your BMI (and I know it's only a guideline) is right at the top limit of "not fat" (about where I am), so assuming you aren't exceptionally muscled I think you can safely assume you could drop a bit more weight and they'll melt away.
Tiggsy said:
Bohally said:
Cheers for the replies. I figure if I cut out the beer (3 or 4) times a week in the local probably doesn't help things either!
These threads would be much easier if people moaning about being fat mentioned straight away that they went on the piss every other day!Reportedly, it could be the beer. Keep up the abstinence and let us know what happens 
My son-in-law mastered in sports science and was a basketball player and trainer in his old country (Tunisia), from a Muslim family who did not drink - so he rarely did either. He came to the UK 18 months ago, is now 26, still goes to the gym, but now drinks some beer - sometimes quite a lot of it. When he is on the beer heavier, he starts to get moobs. When he stops, they go away with no other change in his lifestyle.
Cutting out the beer and exercising as some have said should help. But I would suggest that building muscle under the moobs will probably not make them go away too quickly.
If you want to lose fat, do the work to get the muscles lean, and do cardio as well. My old trainer firmly believed that lean muscle burns more calories than fatty muscle. I tend to believe him. He also held that quads and glutes burn more calories than any other muscle as they are the biggest, so if you have a cross trainer or bike, go for it with high resistance for 20-30 minute a day. If you can stand the impact (I can't), running burns a lot of calories without the expensive machinery.
I am working on my chest at the moment too, but at 52 I have to work quite a bit harder than you youngsters. After a couple of months on free weights (bench presses, incline / decline, pec flys etc) and lots of cardio on bike and cross trainer, things are getting better. I have knocked off a stone and toned up quite a lot, but still have the rare beer or six. Eating lots of fruit, salad, fish, chicken and pasta (fresh sauces, not jars) in smaller portions but more frequently. Avoiding bread, potato, fried food and bad fats, and no complex carbs before bedtime if I can avoid it. Drinking gallons of water and squash - especially in the gym. Sounds crap, but actually it is quite varied.
Like you though, still a bit to go on the lower chest. I reckon the multi-gym I got delivered today should help me focus - quite a nice tool, a Proteus Studio 5 with the bigger stack. Now going to be hitting a 7 day ripping routine for the forseeable future until I am happy with my state (lots of reps (25-40), 5 sets, mid weights) ensuring not to overtrain by missing muscle groups for 2 days and having a couple of days cardio only (well maybe a few crunches if nobody is looking).
If any of that has helped your thinking, then I am glad.
If all this hard work fails, I guess I will stop ripping, go pyramid bulking on the chest and get a job in a titty bar
My son-in-law mastered in sports science and was a basketball player and trainer in his old country (Tunisia), from a Muslim family who did not drink - so he rarely did either. He came to the UK 18 months ago, is now 26, still goes to the gym, but now drinks some beer - sometimes quite a lot of it. When he is on the beer heavier, he starts to get moobs. When he stops, they go away with no other change in his lifestyle.
Cutting out the beer and exercising as some have said should help. But I would suggest that building muscle under the moobs will probably not make them go away too quickly.
If you want to lose fat, do the work to get the muscles lean, and do cardio as well. My old trainer firmly believed that lean muscle burns more calories than fatty muscle. I tend to believe him. He also held that quads and glutes burn more calories than any other muscle as they are the biggest, so if you have a cross trainer or bike, go for it with high resistance for 20-30 minute a day. If you can stand the impact (I can't), running burns a lot of calories without the expensive machinery.
I am working on my chest at the moment too, but at 52 I have to work quite a bit harder than you youngsters. After a couple of months on free weights (bench presses, incline / decline, pec flys etc) and lots of cardio on bike and cross trainer, things are getting better. I have knocked off a stone and toned up quite a lot, but still have the rare beer or six. Eating lots of fruit, salad, fish, chicken and pasta (fresh sauces, not jars) in smaller portions but more frequently. Avoiding bread, potato, fried food and bad fats, and no complex carbs before bedtime if I can avoid it. Drinking gallons of water and squash - especially in the gym. Sounds crap, but actually it is quite varied.
Like you though, still a bit to go on the lower chest. I reckon the multi-gym I got delivered today should help me focus - quite a nice tool, a Proteus Studio 5 with the bigger stack. Now going to be hitting a 7 day ripping routine for the forseeable future until I am happy with my state (lots of reps (25-40), 5 sets, mid weights) ensuring not to overtrain by missing muscle groups for 2 days and having a couple of days cardio only (well maybe a few crunches if nobody is looking).
If any of that has helped your thinking, then I am glad.
If all this hard work fails, I guess I will stop ripping, go pyramid bulking on the chest and get a job in a titty bar
SeeFive said:
Reportedly, it could be the beer. Keep up the abstinence and let us know what happens
My son-in-law mastered in sports science and was a basketball player and trainer in his old country (Tunisia), from a Muslim family who did not drink - so he rarely did either. He came to the UK 18 months ago, is now 26, still goes to the gym, but now drinks some beer - sometimes quite a lot of it. When he is on the beer heavier, he starts to get moobs. When he stops, they go away with no other change in his lifestyle.
Cutting out the beer and exercising as some have said should help. But I would suggest that building muscle under the moobs will probably not make them go away too quickly.
If you want to lose fat, do the work to get the muscles lean, and do cardio as well. My old trainer firmly believed that lean muscle burns more calories than fatty muscle. I tend to believe him. He also held that quads and glutes burn more calories than any other muscle as they are the biggest, so if you have a cross trainer or bike, go for it with high resistance for 20-30 minute a day. If you can stand the impact (I can't), running burns a lot of calories without the expensive machinery.
I am working on my chest at the moment too, but at 52 I have to work quite a bit harder than you youngsters. After a couple of months on free weights (bench presses, incline / decline, pec flys etc) and lots of cardio on bike and cross trainer, things are getting better. I have knocked off a stone and toned up quite a lot, but still have the rare beer or six. Eating lots of fruit, salad, fish, chicken and pasta (fresh sauces, not jars) in smaller portions but more frequently. Avoiding bread, potato, fried food and bad fats, and no complex carbs before bedtime if I can avoid it. Drinking gallons of water and squash - especially in the gym. Sounds crap, but actually it is quite varied.
Like you though, still a bit to go on the lower chest. I reckon the multi-gym I got delivered today should help me focus - quite a nice tool, a Proteus Studio 5 with the bigger stack. Now going to be hitting a 7 day ripping routine for the forseeable future until I am happy with my state (lots of reps (25-40), 5 sets, mid weights) ensuring not to overtrain by missing muscle groups for 2 days and having a couple of days cardio only (well maybe a few crunches if nobody is looking).
If any of that has helped your thinking, then I am glad.
If all this hard work fails, I guess I will stop ripping, go pyramid bulking on the chest and get a job in a titty bar
I've got 8 weeks till a significant even in my life (Not a wedding or anything), just a major change at work. My target is to be noticeably different by then. So far this week I've been to the gym 3 times. Did a lot on arms/chest tonight, then did 10 mins on rowing machine,2 mins on the highest resistance on the bike (I was knackered after this!), then did another 10 mins on the rowing machine. Was in for an hour and a half. My son-in-law mastered in sports science and was a basketball player and trainer in his old country (Tunisia), from a Muslim family who did not drink - so he rarely did either. He came to the UK 18 months ago, is now 26, still goes to the gym, but now drinks some beer - sometimes quite a lot of it. When he is on the beer heavier, he starts to get moobs. When he stops, they go away with no other change in his lifestyle.
Cutting out the beer and exercising as some have said should help. But I would suggest that building muscle under the moobs will probably not make them go away too quickly.
If you want to lose fat, do the work to get the muscles lean, and do cardio as well. My old trainer firmly believed that lean muscle burns more calories than fatty muscle. I tend to believe him. He also held that quads and glutes burn more calories than any other muscle as they are the biggest, so if you have a cross trainer or bike, go for it with high resistance for 20-30 minute a day. If you can stand the impact (I can't), running burns a lot of calories without the expensive machinery.
I am working on my chest at the moment too, but at 52 I have to work quite a bit harder than you youngsters. After a couple of months on free weights (bench presses, incline / decline, pec flys etc) and lots of cardio on bike and cross trainer, things are getting better. I have knocked off a stone and toned up quite a lot, but still have the rare beer or six. Eating lots of fruit, salad, fish, chicken and pasta (fresh sauces, not jars) in smaller portions but more frequently. Avoiding bread, potato, fried food and bad fats, and no complex carbs before bedtime if I can avoid it. Drinking gallons of water and squash - especially in the gym. Sounds crap, but actually it is quite varied.
Like you though, still a bit to go on the lower chest. I reckon the multi-gym I got delivered today should help me focus - quite a nice tool, a Proteus Studio 5 with the bigger stack. Now going to be hitting a 7 day ripping routine for the forseeable future until I am happy with my state (lots of reps (25-40), 5 sets, mid weights) ensuring not to overtrain by missing muscle groups for 2 days and having a couple of days cardio only (well maybe a few crunches if nobody is looking).
If any of that has helped your thinking, then I am glad.
If all this hard work fails, I guess I will stop ripping, go pyramid bulking on the chest and get a job in a titty bar
Sleep wise (I've been up till 2 every night since sunday) and up at 6.30 for work, so not sleeping alot, but feel I have more enengy?? Have been drinking a lot of coffee tho.
Congrats on losing the stone tho. I'd love a multigym in my flat but as I can barely swing a cat in it, it would certainly be the focal piece of my living room. Mind you, I could double up the seat as a dining table.
Bohally said:
I've got 8 weeks till a significant even in my life (Not a wedding or anything), just a major change at work. My target is to be noticeably different by then. So far this week I've been to the gym 3 times. Did a lot on arms/chest tonight, then did 10 mins on rowing machine,2 mins on the highest resistance on the bike (I was knackered after this!), then did another 10 mins on the rowing machine. Was in for an hour and a half.
Sleep wise (I've been up till 2 every night since sunday) and up at 6.30 for work, so not sleeping alot, but feel I have more enengy?? Have been drinking a lot of coffee tho.
Congrats on losing the stone tho. I'd love a multigym in my flat but as I can barely swing a cat in it, it would certainly be the focal piece of my living room. Mind you, I could double up the seat as a dining table.
In my smallest spare bedroom, I have a cross trainer, compact bike, multi gym, and still floor area for weights, push ups/crunches etc. It is only about 10x8 at a guess but it all fits in and is usable.Sleep wise (I've been up till 2 every night since sunday) and up at 6.30 for work, so not sleeping alot, but feel I have more enengy?? Have been drinking a lot of coffee tho.
Congrats on losing the stone tho. I'd love a multigym in my flat but as I can barely swing a cat in it, it would certainly be the focal piece of my living room. Mind you, I could double up the seat as a dining table.
As above, watch the big bang start, it is not good for you.
When I kicked off, the resistances were set lower on the machines and the cardio times / /sets / reps much lower than now. Free weights were lighter and gradually increased over weeks so the workout remained challenging over the same reps, but not killing. I've now run out of weights to add for some exercises, which is a shame as I prefer free weights, but with no spotter, it is getting a bit dangerous. So it is a change of plan to focus on the worst areas now, and switch to the multigym.
I should still get done in 60-75mins per day depending on the specific day's schedule. Weekends are shorter as mainly cardio.
As mentioned, diet is sorted (God I miss ready salted crisps) but need to get more sleep - only 4-5 hours a night on average but then again, I have never slept much. I feel energised every day though and not too many aches due to the gradual increase in the workout. No illness apart from flu picked up on a recent long haul flight, and a minor hamstring tighness for a week or so which I think was not related to the gym work.
So as the man above says, take it easy for a while, feel your way in and gradually build up. If you have 8 weeks, you still have lots of time to make a difference without hurting yourself.
SeeFive said:
In my smallest spare bedroom, I have a cross trainer, compact bike, multi gym, and still floor area for weights, push ups/crunches etc. It is only about 10x8 at a guess but it all fits in and is usable.
As above, watch the big bang start, it is not good for you.
When I kicked off, the resistances were set lower on the machines and the cardio times / /sets / reps much lower than now. Free weights were lighter and gradually increased over weeks so the workout remained challenging over the same reps, but not killing. I've now run out of weights to add for some exercises, which is a shame as I prefer free weights, but with no spotter, it is getting a bit dangerous. So it is a change of plan to focus on the worst areas now, and switch to the multigym.
I should still get done in 60-75mins per day depending on the specific day's schedule. Weekends are shorter as mainly cardio.
As mentioned, diet is sorted (God I miss ready salted crisps) but need to get more sleep - only 4-5 hours a night on average but then again, I have never slept much. I feel energised every day though and not too many aches due to the gradual increase in the workout. No illness apart from flu picked up on a recent long haul flight, and a minor hamstring tighness for a week or so which I think was not related to the gym work.
So as the man above says, take it easy for a while, feel your way in and gradually build up. If you have 8 weeks, you still have lots of time to make a difference without hurting yourself.
Good advice. As above, watch the big bang start, it is not good for you.
When I kicked off, the resistances were set lower on the machines and the cardio times / /sets / reps much lower than now. Free weights were lighter and gradually increased over weeks so the workout remained challenging over the same reps, but not killing. I've now run out of weights to add for some exercises, which is a shame as I prefer free weights, but with no spotter, it is getting a bit dangerous. So it is a change of plan to focus on the worst areas now, and switch to the multigym.
I should still get done in 60-75mins per day depending on the specific day's schedule. Weekends are shorter as mainly cardio.
As mentioned, diet is sorted (God I miss ready salted crisps) but need to get more sleep - only 4-5 hours a night on average but then again, I have never slept much. I feel energised every day though and not too many aches due to the gradual increase in the workout. No illness apart from flu picked up on a recent long haul flight, and a minor hamstring tighness for a week or so which I think was not related to the gym work.
So as the man above says, take it easy for a while, feel your way in and gradually build up. If you have 8 weeks, you still have lots of time to make a difference without hurting yourself.
I'm tempted to almost do day about as in Weights + Cardio one day, then just cardio the next, then Weights + Cardio. I never feel sore after Cardio but do after weights so giving my body a chance to recover on each "off" day may well work.
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