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garyhun

13,969 posts

97 months

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Sunday 26th August 2012 quote quote all
Maybe it's just your complaints procedure that needs work smile

Any of those 3 issues would result in a complaint from me too. The trick, as you say, is complain positively, get the issue sorted and then move on and enjoy.

I think, considering the huge progress you're making, it would be beyond human not to have little 'setbacks' along the way. If those are irritability or a little 'fog' now and again, I'd say that's a result!

No need to beat yourself up chap - happens to the best of us smile

span

91 posts

106 months

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Sunday 26th August 2012 quote quote all
rock bottom said:
instead, i bleated and whinged and was a misery for ten or fifteen minutes - not the sort of person you'd want to be on the opposite side of a table from

i realised what was happening, gave myself an inward slap, cheered up and we both enjoyed the rest of the evening
and then

rock bottom said:
i had a bit of a low moment today on the last leg of my mega road trip ... thanks be for hands-free - phoned my wife, spoke for five minutes and then felt like a new man
These two things stood out in a mile in your post; you seem to have amazing self-awareness. I'd imagine that the vast majority of people (not even people who are working through such a big change as you are) wouldn't have a fraction of the self-awareness to first recognise that their mood is slipping, and second do something positive to turn it around. For any of us, it's often easiest to indulge the grumpy mood / low point.

Please carry on posting - it's genuinely inspiring and not just from an alcoholism perspective. You are really demonstrating what a person is capable of given some honest reflection and the determination to take control of their lives. thumbup

happychap

256 posts

17 months

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Sunday 26th August 2012 quote quote all
Hi Rb, Good to hear you are having a good weekend.
I would just like to congratulate you on your first month of recovery. Your commitment to this process re affirms my belief that if we decide to make chamges, then this can be done with support and any change can be achieved.
It would be amiss of me not to mention the support that your partner continues to make available to you, this I'm sure has helped you no end, and will be there long after this thread. Having said that, I hope you are still finding this thread usefull and continue to post. Regards

2.5pi

307 posts

51 months

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Sunday 26th August 2012 quote quote all
Hi RB

Great to catch up on the progress you are making , I know you know this but there will be massive bumps in the road ahead but you will enjoy life in HD far more

2.5pi

rock bottom

Original Poster:

102 posts

10 months

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Sunday 26th August 2012 quote quote all
steady on folks - i'm just a bloke

i don't think i'm special in any way in terms of defining where i want to be in my head and in my relationships

i also think it's healthy to strive to acheive what you've decided on as quickly and efficiently as you can

i'm not beating myself up over the 'humps' - i'm learning from them

... actually, scrub that ... if i start a sect, will you join and give me all your money? wink

[light hearted]

i got a wee bit grumpy again this afternoon - two things ...

first was ginetta driver ... who "shoulda gone to specsavers"

second was finding out i wasn't getting prawn madras for tea ... chicken en bleedin croute ... my foot

then i fely much better seeing that wee rascal shedded with more turf on his intercooler than i've got on my garden

[/light hearted]

regardin posting here, i honestly have still been worrying that it's a bit self indulgent

given the votes of confidence above however, i'll carry on until someone tells me to shut-up or my right index finger is a bloody stump

thanks again and have a nice sunday evening

heading out to a meeting now
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Pferdestarke

4,138 posts

56 months

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Sunday 26th August 2012 quote quote all
I've a question, if I may?

This love of curry you have. Who makes them? How do they prepare them? You seem to enjoy them so much.

I think I'm ready for a curry. It's been a while.

Teddye4687

338 posts

17 months

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Sunday 26th August 2012 quote quote all
Great reading RB, your wife sounds like a gem smile

rock bottom

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102 posts

10 months

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Sunday 26th August 2012 quote quote all
Pferdestarke said:
I've a question, if I may?

This love of curry you have. Who makes them? How do they prepare them? You seem to enjoy them so much.

I think I'm ready for a curry. It's been a while.
well, my best curries are take aways from various local places (usually delivered)

cooking curries at home however ... i'm too ashamed to admit it ...

i had years of doing things from first principles (toasting the spices etc.) ...

... but not no more ...

... further to my embarrassment, there's a certain tv personality associated with cooking who i have always despised ...

... but his curry sauces are superb ...



... now, i'm just back from an aa meeting where i bared my heart and soul to the room ... but admitting that i use lloyd grossman sauces was considerably more difficult … i hope you’re happy with yourself wink

rock bottom

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102 posts

10 months

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Sunday 26th August 2012 quote quote all
Teddye4687 said:
Great reading RB, your wife sounds like a gem smile
thanks - and yes, you're right

i'll never ever again take it for granted that she'll be there to pick up the ieces when i screw up

saying that, if the plan comes together, there should be no need

i am a lucky lucky man

garyhun

13,969 posts

97 months

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Monday 27th August 2012 quote quote all
That Ginetta rear ending was nasty. Could have resulted in a lot worse.

Little Dave

599 posts

78 months

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Monday 27th August 2012 quote quote all
I have been following this thread from the beginning and would like to add a few of my thoughts if I may.

Firstly RB, fantastic job! You have acknowledged there is a problem and are doing something very positive about it. You mentioned that you feel a little "self indulgent" in your postings. I, like many others reading this thread are inspired by your brutal honesty and determination to see this through and urge you to carry on with your postings.

I drink more than I should, a bottle of wine most nights and mayble a couple on a weekend night. A couple of weeks ago shortly after you started this thread there was the Perseid Meteor shower. My 15 year daughter wanted to see this on the Saturday night/ early hours of Sunday morning. I can't remember the last Saturday that I didn't drink but am pretty certain it is not in this Millenium. I thought about you and this thread while trying to work out how I could still get my Saturday fix but yet see the shower. I decided to research the best place to see the meteors from and ended up not drinking but driving round the countryside to the best view points in the very early hours of the Sunday morning. We had a fabulous evening and saw dozens of meteorites, that probably wouldnt have happened if I hadn't seen this thread.

Since then I have really taken stock of life and my priorities. I have cut my alcohol intake down by about 75% and this weekend have decided to quit smoking. Today is my first fag free day and I am feeling confident about my chances of stopping.


You say you are not special, maybe you're not but you have shown guts and bravery in bearing your soul and I bet I am not the only one who has taken stock of their own habits and have made a change to their lives because of this thread. For that I am very grateful to you.

Keep up the good work.

rock bottom

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102 posts

10 months

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Tuesday 28th August 2012 quote quote all
that's very humbling dave - thanks

i'm glad if i've been of help to some people but equally embarrassed by such praise

pretty unspectacular day today but managed to get a few jobs off the list

i had our two lovely polish cleaning ladies round though - that's always nice

i was a bit lazy late afternoon but it was the dog's fault as she refuses to go out if it's raining ... and i didn't have a "plan b"

no meeting this evening as i found the one last monday deeply uninspiring and others have confirmed it's the same every week

i wanted to go to the cinema this evening but my wife was knackered when she got home from work so i went to the gym to let her chill ... and cook the tea ... frown

last time we went to the cinema together was to see ... scooby-do ... would you believe ...

just checked on imdb and that would have been 2002

i used to love going to the pictures but you've got to drive there and even if you get a lift, it's not convenient to combine a cinema visit with having a lot to drink - hence putting it off for ten years or so - sad

i haven't developed my programme for tomorrow yet - i'll figure it out when i go to bed

only firm thing on the plan is aa in the evening as tuesdays are really really good

sleep well folks

Pferdestarke

4,138 posts

56 months

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Tuesday 28th August 2012 quote quote all
rock bottom said:
... now, i'm just back from an aa meeting where i bared my heart and soul to the room ... but admitting that i use lloyd grossman sauces was considerably more difficult … i hope you’re happy with yourself wink
Ha ha! Sorry to do that to you! they're not bad are they!

i'm enjoying the thread - keep it up RB!

rock bottom

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102 posts

10 months

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Tuesday 28th August 2012 quote quote all
i knew that would happen sooner or later

i’d be grateful for discretion

Edited by rock bottom on Tuesday 28th August 17:02

rock bottom

Original Poster:

102 posts

10 months

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Tuesday 28th August 2012 quote quote all
i'm a tad ashamed to admit what i've been doing for a good part of today

there's one thing neither my wife nor i can abide - and that's ironing

the solution is that we have it done for us (collected and delivered)

shirts come back on wire hangers

now, we're not too clever about giving the hangers back

as a result, before too long, wardrobe space decreases to an unmanageable degree

so, having picked up on a subtle hint, i decided to address the issue today

now, i didn't want to hand them back in a higglety-pigglety mass as they're a nightmare to handle once they're all hooked up

so, to make it easier for the ironing ladies, i decided to bundle them all up in neat bunches of 25

et voilà, here are 440 hangers all neatly bundled



now, before anyone says it, i know 25 doesn't go into 440 - there are some bunches of 20

... i'm beginning to think i should perhaps start thinking about getting back to work ... wink

my best pal came round for a cup of tea this afternoon

that was really good as he's been away with work

the main topic of conversation was the optimum flooring solution for the workshop we share - perfect

right, nice free range chook in the oven so i'm off to the gym

then ... home / shower / eat / aa / home / cup of tea / tv & sweeties / bed

enjoy your evening folks

Edited by rock bottom on Tuesday 28th August 16:59

happychap

256 posts

17 months

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Wednesday 29th August 2012 quote quote all
Morning RB, How are you.

rock bottom

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102 posts

10 months

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Wednesday 29th August 2012 quote quote all
morning* hc - doing great thanks - thanks for thinking about me

* it'll likely be afternoon by the time i hit the submit button

went to a meeting last night - tuesdays are great and i've declared this as me 'home group'

this has various levels of significance but the big one, for me, is that if you're unable to attend, you must let someone know

if you don't show up for your 'home group' one week, major efforts will be made to establish if you're ok or you need help

that's a great thing

last night, in my mini share, i spoke about the friendship i've found in aa already and how i feel so welcome and comfortable

some of the stories i've heard of people's pasts and backgrounds are absolutely wild - honestly; seriously eye opening stuff

i explained that i come from what i consider to be a privileged background

stable childhood, private education, good career and flying high prior to the wheels coming off (apologies for the oxymoron)

i told everyone (there are probably about 20 come on a tuesday) that i have more in common with everyone in that room than i do with any "old school tie" or executive in the industry i (used to) work in

that's honestly how i feel about the fellowship - and it's a good thing

it's like it's exactly contrary to my favourite groucho marx quote; "i don't want to belong to any club that will accept people like me as a member"

some odd thoughts are beginning to creep in to my head

things are so good just now, the bubble has to burst

sounds pessimistic i'm sure but i can't help it

life is easy just now as the only bits of the outside world i'm dealing with are of my choosing

when i decide to start working again, i think i'm going to have to have someone lined up to look after me if things get too much

i'm going to addaction next week for that appointment but, right now, i think this is best going to take the form of an aa sponsor

i have a couple of people in mind to ask but i'm going to leave it for a wee while

waiting for the dog walker lady to come and then i'm off down the gym

more later maybe

Edited by rock bottom on Wednesday 29th August 13:25

happychap

256 posts

17 months

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Wednesday 29th August 2012 quote quote all
Hi RB, Great to hear you are accessing the support that is available to you, sounds like you have found a good group of indeviduals to share your journey.
The journey you have started as you are now realising is a long one, that said, it will be as difficult as you want to make it. I dont mean that in a dismissive in any way to the significant progress that you have made, more about the choices you make around alcohol and the enevitable stress of life.
You mentioned that you feel as though this bubble is about to burst, who or what will burst this bubble, and if it bursts what will that look like.
Regards

Stuart70

391 posts

52 months

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Wednesday 29th August 2012 quote quote all
I've been reading this thread throughout, but didn't feel I could post. I was going to try to respond tonight with some advice related to the bubble bursting and the return to work, but it was either my experience or patronising.

All I can say is head up RB, I am only one of the many rooting for you here and thinking of you.
You may think you are just an ordinary chap, but you are taking the hard road - which is hugely impressive.

rock bottom

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102 posts

10 months

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Thursday 30th August 2012 quote quote all
Stuart70 said:
All I can say is head up RB, I am only one of the many rooting for you here and thinking of you.
thanks smile

Stuart70 said:
I was going to try to respond tonight with some advice related to the bubble bursting and the return to work, but it was either my experience or patronising.
please do go for it

i'd be interesting in hearing your experience and can guarantee i won't feel patronised
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