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garyhun
13,969 posts
97 months
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Maybe it's just your complaints procedure that needs work  Any of those 3 issues would result in a complaint from me too. The trick, as you say, is complain positively, get the issue sorted and then move on and enjoy. I think, considering the huge progress you're making, it would be beyond human not to have little 'setbacks' along the way. If those are irritability or a little 'fog' now and again, I'd say that's a result! No need to beat yourself up chap - happens to the best of us 
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span
91 posts
106 months
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rock bottom said: instead, i bleated and whinged and was a misery for ten or fifteen minutes - not the sort of person you'd want to be on the opposite side of a table from
i realised what was happening, gave myself an inward slap, cheered up and we both enjoyed the rest of the evening and then rock bottom said: i had a bit of a low moment today on the last leg of my mega road trip ... thanks be for hands-free - phoned my wife, spoke for five minutes and then felt like a new man These two things stood out in a mile in your post; you seem to have amazing self-awareness. I'd imagine that the vast majority of people (not even people who are working through such a big change as you are) wouldn't have a fraction of the self-awareness to first recognise that their mood is slipping, and second do something positive to turn it around. For any of us, it's often easiest to indulge the grumpy mood / low point. Please carry on posting - it's genuinely inspiring and not just from an alcoholism perspective. You are really demonstrating what a person is capable of given some honest reflection and the determination to take control of their lives. 
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happychap
256 posts
17 months
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Hi Rb, Good to hear you are having a good weekend. I would just like to congratulate you on your first month of recovery. Your commitment to this process re affirms my belief that if we decide to make chamges, then this can be done with support and any change can be achieved. It would be amiss of me not to mention the support that your partner continues to make available to you, this I'm sure has helped you no end, and will be there long after this thread. Having said that, I hope you are still finding this thread usefull and continue to post. Regards
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2.5pi
307 posts
51 months
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Hi RB
Great to catch up on the progress you are making , I know you know this but there will be massive bumps in the road ahead but you will enjoy life in HD far more
2.5pi
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rock bottom
Original Poster
102 posts
10 months
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steady on folks - i'm just a bloke i don't think i'm special in any way in terms of defining where i want to be in my head and in my relationships i also think it's healthy to strive to acheive what you've decided on as quickly and efficiently as you can i'm not beating myself up over the 'humps' - i'm learning from them ... actually, scrub that ... if i start a sect, will you join and give me all your money?  [light hearted] i got a wee bit grumpy again this afternoon - two things ... first was ginetta driver ... who " shoulda gone to specsavers" second was finding out i wasn't getting prawn madras for tea ... chicken en bleedin croute ... my foot then i fely much better seeing that wee rascal shedded with more turf on his intercooler than i've got on my garden [/light hearted] regardin posting here, i honestly have still been worrying that it's a bit self indulgent given the votes of confidence above however, i'll carry on until someone tells me to shut-up or my right index finger is a bloody stump thanks again and have a nice sunday evening heading out to a meeting now
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Pferdestarke
4,138 posts
56 months
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I've a question, if I may?
This love of curry you have. Who makes them? How do they prepare them? You seem to enjoy them so much.
I think I'm ready for a curry. It's been a while.
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Teddye4687
338 posts
17 months
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Great reading RB, your wife sounds like a gem 
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rock bottom
Original Poster
102 posts
10 months
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Pferdestarke said: I've a question, if I may?
This love of curry you have. Who makes them? How do they prepare them? You seem to enjoy them so much.
I think I'm ready for a curry. It's been a while. well, my best curries are take aways from various local places (usually delivered) cooking curries at home however ... i'm too ashamed to admit it ... i had years of doing things from first principles (toasting the spices etc.) ... ... but not no more ... ... further to my embarrassment, there's a certain tv personality associated with cooking who i have always despised ... ... but his curry sauces are superb ...  ... now, i'm just back from an aa meeting where i bared my heart and soul to the room ... but admitting that i use lloyd grossman sauces was considerably more difficult … i hope you’re happy with yourself 
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rock bottom
Original Poster
102 posts
10 months
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Teddye4687 said: Great reading RB, your wife sounds like a gem  thanks - and yes, you're right i'll never ever again take it for granted that she'll be there to pick up the ieces when i screw up saying that, if the plan comes together, there should be no need i am a lucky lucky man
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garyhun
13,969 posts
97 months
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That Ginetta rear ending was nasty. Could have resulted in a lot worse.
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Little Dave
599 posts
78 months
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I have been following this thread from the beginning and would like to add a few of my thoughts if I may.
Firstly RB, fantastic job! You have acknowledged there is a problem and are doing something very positive about it. You mentioned that you feel a little "self indulgent" in your postings. I, like many others reading this thread are inspired by your brutal honesty and determination to see this through and urge you to carry on with your postings.
I drink more than I should, a bottle of wine most nights and mayble a couple on a weekend night. A couple of weeks ago shortly after you started this thread there was the Perseid Meteor shower. My 15 year daughter wanted to see this on the Saturday night/ early hours of Sunday morning. I can't remember the last Saturday that I didn't drink but am pretty certain it is not in this Millenium. I thought about you and this thread while trying to work out how I could still get my Saturday fix but yet see the shower. I decided to research the best place to see the meteors from and ended up not drinking but driving round the countryside to the best view points in the very early hours of the Sunday morning. We had a fabulous evening and saw dozens of meteorites, that probably wouldnt have happened if I hadn't seen this thread.
Since then I have really taken stock of life and my priorities. I have cut my alcohol intake down by about 75% and this weekend have decided to quit smoking. Today is my first fag free day and I am feeling confident about my chances of stopping.
You say you are not special, maybe you're not but you have shown guts and bravery in bearing your soul and I bet I am not the only one who has taken stock of their own habits and have made a change to their lives because of this thread. For that I am very grateful to you.
Keep up the good work.
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rock bottom
Original Poster
102 posts
10 months
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that's very humbling dave - thanks i'm glad if i've been of help to some people but equally embarrassed by such praise pretty unspectacular day today but managed to get a few jobs off the list i had our two lovely polish cleaning ladies round though - that's always nice i was a bit lazy late afternoon but it was the dog's fault as she refuses to go out if it's raining ... and i didn't have a "plan b" no meeting this evening as i found the one last monday deeply uninspiring and others have confirmed it's the same every week i wanted to go to the cinema this evening but my wife was knackered when she got home from work so i went to the gym to let her chill ... and cook the tea ...  last time we went to the cinema together was to see ... scooby-do ... would you believe ... just checked on imdb and that would have been 2002 i used to love going to the pictures but you've got to drive there and even if you get a lift, it's not convenient to combine a cinema visit with having a lot to drink - hence putting it off for ten years or so - sad i haven't developed my programme for tomorrow yet - i'll figure it out when i go to bed only firm thing on the plan is aa in the evening as tuesdays are really really good sleep well folks
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Pferdestarke
4,138 posts
56 months
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rock bottom said: ... now, i'm just back from an aa meeting where i bared my heart and soul to the room ... but admitting that i use lloyd grossman sauces was considerably more difficult … i hope you’re happy with yourself  Ha ha! Sorry to do that to you! they're not bad are they! i'm enjoying the thread - keep it up RB!
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rock bottom
Original Poster
102 posts
10 months
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i knew that would happen sooner or later
i’d be grateful for discretion
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rock bottom
Original Poster
102 posts
10 months
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i'm a tad ashamed to admit what i've been doing for a good part of today there's one thing neither my wife nor i can abide - and that's ironing the solution is that we have it done for us (collected and delivered) shirts come back on wire hangers now, we're not too clever about giving the hangers back as a result, before too long, wardrobe space decreases to an unmanageable degree so, having picked up on a subtle hint, i decided to address the issue today now, i didn't want to hand them back in a higglety-pigglety mass as they're a nightmare to handle once they're all hooked up so, to make it easier for the ironing ladies, i decided to bundle them all up in neat bunches of 25 et voilà, here are 440 hangers all neatly bundled  now, before anyone says it, i know 25 doesn't go into 440 - there are some bunches of 20 ... i'm beginning to think i should perhaps start thinking about getting back to work ...  my best pal came round for a cup of tea this afternoon that was really good as he's been away with work the main topic of conversation was the optimum flooring solution for the workshop we share - perfect right, nice free range chook in the oven so i'm off to the gym then ... home / shower / eat / aa / home / cup of tea / tv & sweeties / bed enjoy your evening folks
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happychap
256 posts
17 months
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rock bottom
Original Poster
102 posts
10 months
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morning* hc - doing great thanks - thanks for thinking about me * it'll likely be afternoon by the time i hit the submit button went to a meeting last night - tuesdays are great and i've declared this as me 'home group' this has various levels of significance but the big one, for me, is that if you're unable to attend, you must let someone know if you don't show up for your 'home group' one week, major efforts will be made to establish if you're ok or you need help that's a great thing last night, in my mini share, i spoke about the friendship i've found in aa already and how i feel so welcome and comfortable some of the stories i've heard of people's pasts and backgrounds are absolutely wild - honestly; seriously eye opening stuff i explained that i come from what i consider to be a privileged background stable childhood, private education, good career and flying high prior to the wheels coming off (apologies for the oxymoron) i told everyone (there are probably about 20 come on a tuesday) that i have more in common with everyone in that room than i do with any " old school tie" or executive in the industry i (used to) work in that's honestly how i feel about the fellowship - and it's a good thing it's like it's exactly contrary to my favourite groucho marx quote; " i don't want to belong to any club that will accept people like me as a member" some odd thoughts are beginning to creep in to my head things are so good just now, the bubble has to burst sounds pessimistic i'm sure but i can't help it life is easy just now as the only bits of the outside world i'm dealing with are of my choosing when i decide to start working again, i think i'm going to have to have someone lined up to look after me if things get too much i'm going to addaction next week for that appointment but, right now, i think this is best going to take the form of an aa sponsor i have a couple of people in mind to ask but i'm going to leave it for a wee while waiting for the dog walker lady to come and then i'm off down the gym more later maybe
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happychap
256 posts
17 months
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Hi RB, Great to hear you are accessing the support that is available to you, sounds like you have found a good group of indeviduals to share your journey. The journey you have started as you are now realising is a long one, that said, it will be as difficult as you want to make it. I dont mean that in a dismissive in any way to the significant progress that you have made, more about the choices you make around alcohol and the enevitable stress of life. You mentioned that you feel as though this bubble is about to burst, who or what will burst this bubble, and if it bursts what will that look like. Regards
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Stuart70
391 posts
52 months
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I've been reading this thread throughout, but didn't feel I could post. I was going to try to respond tonight with some advice related to the bubble bursting and the return to work, but it was either my experience or patronising.
All I can say is head up RB, I am only one of the many rooting for you here and thinking of you. You may think you are just an ordinary chap, but you are taking the hard road - which is hugely impressive.
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rock bottom
Original Poster
102 posts
10 months
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Stuart70 said: All I can say is head up RB, I am only one of the many rooting for you here and thinking of you. thanks  Stuart70 said: I was going to try to respond tonight with some advice related to the bubble bursting and the return to work, but it was either my experience or patronising. please do go for it i'd be interesting in hearing your experience and can guarantee i won't feel patronised
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