Fizzy Drinks...Am i addicted? Shock me into quitting.

Fizzy Drinks...Am i addicted? Shock me into quitting.

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Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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Munter said:
If you are thinking about trying the sugar free versions. (And in some cases the regular versions)

http://www.sweetpoison.com/aspartame-side-effects....
Indeed.
Was chatting to a PT this week about sugary drinks. He stays away from stuff with aspartame and phenylalanine (I think it was) in it. Basically he lets his kids have a drink with sugar in it, but obviously not every day like some guzzle them.
He told us a about a woman who drank enough diet drinks to start giving herself seizures. When she stopped the effects stopped. (edit) She obviously drank enough regularly to induce symptoms.
http://blog.fooducate.com/2011/03/16/7-things-to-k...

They also make you want to eat more.

Edited by Halb on Saturday 4th August 09:02

andyjo1982

4,960 posts

211 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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Intresting thread. Thinking about it, I probably drink 5 or 6 cans of fizzy drinks a week. Not great, I know, and having read this thread, I probably should make more of an effort to cut down.

Just thinking though, does a pint of lager do the same sort of damage to teeth as cola, or does it not contain as much sugar/acid etc? I'd imagine Red Bull/Monster drinks must be a lot worse than Coke?

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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I can't recall now but they add something to coke to stop you body rejecting it because it's so sweet? I suppose red bull is just as sugary. Unless you're running a half marathon there's no real need to drink either.
Doesn't the sugar turn to booze in alcohol?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0z5X0i92OZQ
Watch that, once inside the body sugar and booze act very similar.

Edited by Halb on Saturday 4th August 20:41

Xaero

4,060 posts

216 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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Yes you are addicted. It's probably not something society recognises because of the advertising force of coca cola et al and the fact many people happily give it to their kids (wondering why they are so hyper after).

I had the same realisation a while back too. It has to be treated like other addictions, slowly cut down and then go cold turkey. I find I never usually drink 'one glass' in the same way I never have one biscuit or one <insert sweet delicious thing here>. So it's best to avoid it all together. Feels strange at first but once you're used to something healthier, its more difficult to go back and get addicted (although certainly easy still).

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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Xaero said:
Yes you are addicted. It's probably not something society recognises because of the advertising force of coca cola et al and the fact many people happily give it to their kids (wondering why they are so hyper after).
Quite.
Muppets feed their kids these sugary drinks and then say they've got ADD or ADHD or somesuch and more drugs are prescribed to calm them down.

How to magnetise a baby.biggrin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5VWi6dXCT7I&fea...

Terminator X

15,108 posts

205 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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What about sugar free red bull? I drink a few cans a week redface

TX.

Xerstead

622 posts

179 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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Halb said:
Quite.
Muppets feed their kids these sugary drinks and then say they've got ADD or ADHD or somesuch and more drugs are prescribed to calm them down.
I went to a funeral a few years aso, the family had a 5yo kid who didn't want to stand still so they gave him a bottle of Lucozade to keep him quiet. rolleyes

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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Stu R said:
1) Most of what's written about Aspartame is regurgitating repeatedly discredited and disproven bunk which has spectacularly failed to stand up to repeated scientific scrutiny.

2) The woman responsible for that website makes a great deal of money selling quackery like hair analysis based diet advice and aspartame detox programmes to idiots willing to believe her special blend of quackery. She's about on par with the retards who buy and sell homeopathy crap, which she also does.

Believe what you like of course, but if you're a fan of her work you'll be over the moon when you discover Kent Hovind.

Edited by Stu R on Friday 3rd August 23:36
I get you. But I thought the idea of the thread was to scare the guy away from fizzy drinks. It was posted with that aim.... wink

otolith

56,219 posts

205 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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What you want is some crack, that will soon take your mind off your "addiction".

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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Halb said:
I can't recall now but they add something to coke to stop you body rejecting it because it's so sweet?
Not really, though the fact that it's quite acidic (as are all carbonated soft drinks) masks a lot of the sweetness. Flat coke is somewhat less palatable because of this; warming coke has a similar effect - cold reduces the sensation of sweetness. Coke is less sweet than eating sugar, or indeed many boiled sweets (which are pretty much pure sugar) and your body tolerates them just fine.

andyjo1982 said:
Just thinking though, does a pint of lager do the same sort of damage to teeth as cola, or does it not contain as much sugar/acid etc? I'd imagine Red Bull/Monster drinks must be a lot worse than Coke?
Beer is a lot less sugary than coke, and also less acidic, so tends to do a lot less damage to teeth. Also the alcohol kills bacteria in the mouth (many mouthwashes are alcoholic) which tends to reduce the incidence of decay.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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I went cold turkey off the sugar free drinks, just stopped buying them, keep some ice-cold water in the fridge

I used to easily drink 1.5 - 2 litres a days

I really do think they make you hungrier, your body expects the sugar rush from the sweet taste then you don't get it, so you need something else

I occasionally have a small can nowadays, but not the same at all

fid

2,428 posts

241 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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Why the hell do people have to make an effort to cut down on fizzy drinks? How much effort does it take to NOT buy something? This is what we consider effort now? Get a grip people!

Edited by fid on Saturday 4th August 17:52

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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fid said:
Why the hell do people have to make an effort to cut down on fizzy drinks? How much effort does it take to NOT buy something? This is what we consider effort now? Get a grip people!
Yeah, I mean how much effort does it take a crack addict to NOT buy crack? They could just stay home and not dial their dealer...

The issue is, if you're addicted to something, you feel bad when you don't have it. In the case of soft drinks, they're very easy to get hold of so when you feel bad you just pop out and buy a couple of litres of coke or whatever. It's an easy quick fix and you feel almost immediately better, so there's a large reinforcement effect going on there.

fid

2,428 posts

241 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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Flibble said:
Yeah, I mean how much effort does it take a crack addict to NOT buy crack? They could just stay home and not dial their dealer...

The issue is, if you're addicted to something, you feel bad when you don't have it. In the case of soft drinks, they're very easy to get hold of so when you feel bad you just pop out and buy a couple of litres of coke or whatever. It's an easy quick fix and you feel almost immediately better, so there's a large reinforcement effect going on there.
Did you just make a link between somebody with zero willpower that likes the taste of fizzy drinks, and somebody with a cocaine habit? Wow.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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fid said:
id you just make a link between somebody with zero willpower that likes the taste of fizzy drinks, and somebody with a cocaine habit? Wow.
one's certainly more enjoyable, they're both just as addictive - more mental than physical (cocaine, not sure about crack though)

fid

2,428 posts

241 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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Hugo a Gogo said:
one's certainly more enjoyable, they're both just as addictive - more mental than physical (cocaine, not sure about crack though)
No no no - I drink water almost exclusively, I could drink fizzy drinks, but I don't want to. This does not mean I'm addicted to water.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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water is a basic human need - we're all addicted to it - coke isn't (either kind)

fid

2,428 posts

241 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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It was analogy, let's say I put a tea bag in with the water. I wouldn't be addicted to tea.

Calling fizzy drinks an addiction is a weak excuse, to the point it's barely worth talking about! The root cause for a fizzy drink "addiction" is laziness or a very extreme case of lack of willpower, i.e. not the same as a drug addiction.

Hugo a Gogo

23,378 posts

234 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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let's agree to disagree

DocJock

8,360 posts

241 months

Saturday 4th August 2012
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stevensdrs said:
DocJock said:
Wrong. It's damaging your teeth. It's not the sugar that causes the damage, but the carbonic acid.
Doesn't contain "carbonic acid". It does contain Carbonated water and Citric Acid and my teeth are perfect after 50+ years of poisoning myself with it. wink
Yes it does. Carbonated water, is carbonic acid.

It erodes the surface of your tooth enamel at a microscopic level. You may not see it (yet) but your tooth enamel is thinner, therefore weaker, than it would be if you were not drinking fizzy or acidic drinks.

Why bother asking questions if you don't want to hear the answers or to argue the toss with professionals in the field?