Fizzy Drinks...Am i addicted? Shock me into quitting.
Discussion
Flibble said:
Beer is a lot less sugary than coke, and also less acidic, so tends to do a lot less damage to teeth. Also the alcohol kills bacteria in the mouth (many mouthwashes are alcoholic) which tends to reduce the incidence of decay.
You don't swallow sweets down like coke though. That's why sugary drinks are so evil.
I'll have to try and find where that old thought came from.
Okay well i tried today during my shift at work not to consume any fizzy drinks and i failed during the later stages of the day and had a can of iron bru.
I think once the fizzy drinks in the house are gone i'm going to go cold turkey on it and see how it goes.
Iv drank too much for too long and even though my teeth look pretty perfect to me, my dentist has no clue how they are so good after all the sugar I intake.
Found a new love for ocean spray cranberry dilute so il up my squash intake, dail down my fizzy intake then BOOM il be free and be able to like run marathons and do like loads of star jumps n all the good stuff like that.
Addiction is quite scary if you think about it. Iv never understood how anyone can ever ever ever ever get addicted to smoking for example but then im the one with a potential addiction to something silly like fizzy drinks, deary me.
I think once the fizzy drinks in the house are gone i'm going to go cold turkey on it and see how it goes.
Iv drank too much for too long and even though my teeth look pretty perfect to me, my dentist has no clue how they are so good after all the sugar I intake.
Found a new love for ocean spray cranberry dilute so il up my squash intake, dail down my fizzy intake then BOOM il be free and be able to like run marathons and do like loads of star jumps n all the good stuff like that.
Addiction is quite scary if you think about it. Iv never understood how anyone can ever ever ever ever get addicted to smoking for example but then im the one with a potential addiction to something silly like fizzy drinks, deary me.
fid said:
It was analogy, let's say I put a tea bag in with the water. I wouldn't be addicted to tea.
Calling fizzy drinks an addiction is a weak excuse, to the point it's barely worth talking about! The root cause for a fizzy drink "addiction" is laziness or a very extreme case of lack of willpower, i.e. not the same as a drug addiction.
Sugar is addictive. Sweeteners have a similar effect with regards to brain chemistry and switch off the 'no more' sign in the brain.Calling fizzy drinks an addiction is a weak excuse, to the point it's barely worth talking about! The root cause for a fizzy drink "addiction" is laziness or a very extreme case of lack of willpower, i.e. not the same as a drug addiction.
Sugary drinks are addictive. Manufacturers know this and the double whammy of sugar/caffeine is comparable to a lot of illegal drugs.
If you think they're not, watch the two lectures I posted.
fid said:
It was analogy, let's say I put a tea bag in with the water. I wouldn't be addicted to tea.
Calling fizzy drinks an addiction is a weak excuse, to the point it's barely worth talking about! The root cause for a fizzy drink "addiction" is laziness or a very extreme case of lack of willpower, i.e. not the same as a drug addiction.
No, but you might become addicted to caffiene. Sugar is very addictive, hence 'addicted to fizzy drinks'. They're not just flavoured water, or there wouldn't be a problem.Calling fizzy drinks an addiction is a weak excuse, to the point it's barely worth talking about! The root cause for a fizzy drink "addiction" is laziness or a very extreme case of lack of willpower, i.e. not the same as a drug addiction.
fid said:
It was analogy, let's say I put a tea bag in with the water. I wouldn't be addicted to tea.
Calling fizzy drinks an addiction is a weak excuse, to the point it's barely worth talking about! The root cause for a fizzy drink "addiction" is laziness or a very extreme case of lack of willpower, i.e. not the same as a drug addiction.
If it were pure laziness it wouldn't be an issue - it's no more effort to get a glass of water than to open a can of coke really.Calling fizzy drinks an addiction is a weak excuse, to the point it's barely worth talking about! The root cause for a fizzy drink "addiction" is laziness or a very extreme case of lack of willpower, i.e. not the same as a drug addiction.
I'm not sure you can say it's not the same as a drug addiction. Sugar has biochemical effects on your brain, as do drugs, seems like there could be some similarities there. I'll certainly say that the crack argument was somewhat hyperbolic - it's definitely easier to kick a soft drink habit than to get off crack. That doesn't mean that quitting soft drinks is trivial for many people though.
GTIAlex said:
Iv drank too much for too long and even though my teeth look pretty perfect to me, my dentist has no clue how they are so good after all the sugar I intake.
How your tooth enamel is affected is not the same for everyone - you might have genetically stronger enamel or something else which predisposes you to have less caries.You should find your blood sugar is a bit more stable without soft drink consumption - you won't tend to get a sugar rush then a crash.
stevensdrs said:
DocJock said:
Wrong. It's damaging your teeth. It's not the sugar that causes the damage, but the carbonic acid.
Doesn't contain "carbonic acid". It does contain Carbonated water and Citric Acid and my teeth are perfect after 50+ years of poisoning myself with it. 
coke also has phosphoric acid in it.
whatever; the pH is low.
fid said:
id you just make a link between somebody with zero willpower that likes the taste of fizzy drinks, and somebody with a cocaine habit? Wow.
I'm with fid. You're not addicted, you are just a f
king idiot. Get a grip for god's sake. "Oh me, it's so addictive, some guys on the net say so, lets hope my parents lock me in a room so I can go cold turkey; if not, I may mug an Olympic tourist so I can get the cash for one more bottle of lucozade... maybe I could shove a Mars bar up my arse to ease the pain, for an easy come down of the glucose high"This s
t is 4 REAL. You ain't felt pain like a sugary drink junkie on a come down. These guys would suck your dick for a can of sprite.BE WARNED.
Munter said:
Stu R said:
1) Most of what's written about Aspartame is regurgitating repeatedly discredited and disproven bunk which has spectacularly failed to stand up to repeated scientific scrutiny.
2) The woman responsible for that website makes a great deal of money selling quackery like hair analysis based diet advice and aspartame detox programmes to idiots willing to believe her special blend of quackery. She's about on par with the retards who buy and sell homeopathy crap, which she also does.
Believe what you like of course, but if you're a fan of her work you'll be over the moon when you discover Kent Hovind.
I get you. But I thought the idea of the thread was to scare the guy away from fizzy drinks. It was posted with that aim.... 2) The woman responsible for that website makes a great deal of money selling quackery like hair analysis based diet advice and aspartame detox programmes to idiots willing to believe her special blend of quackery. She's about on par with the retards who buy and sell homeopathy crap, which she also does.
Believe what you like of course, but if you're a fan of her work you'll be over the moon when you discover Kent Hovind.
Edited by Stu R on Friday 3rd August 23:36
erm, yeah,...
it also gives you gonorrherpesyohiliaids. And piles.
Halb said:
fid said:
It was analogy, let's say I put a tea bag in with the water. I wouldn't be addicted to tea.
Calling fizzy drinks an addiction is a weak excuse, to the point it's barely worth talking about! The root cause for a fizzy drink "addiction" is laziness or a very extreme case of lack of willpower, i.e. not the same as a drug addiction.
Sugar is addictive. Sweeteners have a similar effect with regards to brain chemistry and switch off the 'no more' sign in the brain.Calling fizzy drinks an addiction is a weak excuse, to the point it's barely worth talking about! The root cause for a fizzy drink "addiction" is laziness or a very extreme case of lack of willpower, i.e. not the same as a drug addiction.
Sugary drinks are addictive. Manufacturers know this and the double whammy of sugar/caffeine is comparable to a lot of illegal drugs.
If you think they're not, watch the two lectures I posted.
If drinking full-fat, they also give similar, if not worse, hangovers to a skinfull of booze. I remember drinking 8+ pints of full fat on a driving night (inc a couple of pints of post-mix syrup with a dash of water) and I had a shocking hangover the next day - why did I bother? As another, a few vodka red bulls screws me up every time & it isn't down to the vodka. I've certainly supped enough over the years to know that.
Sugar + processed carbs (vaguely the same thing) = work of beezlebub & the slight spate of recent progs on this would be great, if anyone listens.
Edited by DukeDickson on Sunday 5th August 04:18
The tooth enamel is very strong and resist the acid for a time... However once you are through to the root then prepare to see the teeth disintegrate before your eyes. I treated a chap who had a very unhealthy love of white wine (in fact it did him in in the end) It took about 18 months for them to dissolve into stumps once the enamel was gone...
Cranberry juice etc will do the same eventually
Stick to the water and take up tea...
Cranberry juice etc will do the same eventually
Stick to the water and take up tea...
didelydoo said:
fid said:
id you just make a link between somebody with zero willpower that likes the taste of fizzy drinks, and somebody with a cocaine habit? Wow.
I'm with fid. You're not addicted, you are just a fking idiot. Get a grip for god's sake. "Oh me, it's so addictive, some guys on the net say so, lets hope my parents lock me in a room so I can go cold turkey; if not, I may mug an Olympic tourist so I can get the cash for one more bottle of lucozade... maybe I could shove a Mars bar up my arse to ease the pain, for an easy come down of the glucose high"This s
t is 4 REAL. You ain't felt pain like a sugary drink junkie on a come down. These guys would suck your dick for a can of sprite.BE WARNED.
DukeDickson said:
The men that made us fat as another
If drinking full-fat, they also give similar, if not worse, hangovers to a skinfull of booze. I remember drinking 8+ pints of full fat on a driving night (inc a couple of pints of post-mix syrup with a dash of water) and I had a shocking hangover the next day - why did I bother? As another, a few vodka red bulls screws me up every time & it isn't down to the vodka. I've certainly supped enough over the years to know that.
Probably the load on your liver from having to metabolise that much fructose - they quite similar in the way they're metabolised.If drinking full-fat, they also give similar, if not worse, hangovers to a skinfull of booze. I remember drinking 8+ pints of full fat on a driving night (inc a couple of pints of post-mix syrup with a dash of water) and I had a shocking hangover the next day - why did I bother? As another, a few vodka red bulls screws me up every time & it isn't down to the vodka. I've certainly supped enough over the years to know that.
DukeDickson said:
Sugar + processed carbs (vaguely the same thing) = work of beezlebub & the slight spate of recent progs on this would be great, if anyone listens.
It's mainly sugar (and hfcs) - starch doesn't seem to give anything like as many bad health effects, even in refined forms.Telling somebody they are addicted to something as benign as fizzy drinks is effectively telling them it's not their fault. Which is of course wrong.
If I bought a 24 pack of coke now and drank nothing else until I'd finished it, I wouldn't be addicted and want to carry on, I'd just feel stupid. If it was addictive, I'd want more.
Liking the taste of something, or disliking the alternatives, does not make it an addiction.
If I bought a 24 pack of coke now and drank nothing else until I'd finished it, I wouldn't be addicted and want to carry on, I'd just feel stupid. If it was addictive, I'd want more.
Liking the taste of something, or disliking the alternatives, does not make it an addiction.
fid said:
Telling somebody they are addicted to something as benign as fizzy drinks is effectively telling them it's not their fault. Which is of course wrong.
If I bought a 24 pack of coke now and drank nothing else until I'd finished it, I wouldn't be addicted and want to carry on, I'd just feel stupid. If it was addictive, I'd want more.
Liking the taste of something, or disliking the alternatives, does not make it an addiction.
I don't think you understand what addiction is. There aren't many forms of addiction which will start overnight. Do you deny that alcohol addiction exists? Your example could be applied to that too.If I bought a 24 pack of coke now and drank nothing else until I'd finished it, I wouldn't be addicted and want to carry on, I'd just feel stupid. If it was addictive, I'd want more.
Liking the taste of something, or disliking the alternatives, does not make it an addiction.
Meoricin said:
I don't think you understand what addiction is. There aren't many forms of addiction which will start overnight. Do you deny that alcohol addiction exists? Your example could be applied to that too.
I'd imagine something triggers alcholism, rather than it just being a case of "oh that's nice, I'll buy some more". Regardless, Alex wants to quit drinking fizzy drinks. So my advice would be to do exactly that.fid said:
Telling somebody they are addicted to something as benign as fizzy drinks is effectively telling them it's not their fault. Which is of course wrong.
If I bought a 24 pack of coke now and drank nothing else until I'd finished it, I wouldn't be addicted and want to carry on, I'd just feel stupid. If it was addictive, I'd want more.
Liking the taste of something, or disliking the alternatives, does not make it an addiction.
If you went out and did a gram of coke it would be the sameIf I bought a 24 pack of coke now and drank nothing else until I'd finished it, I wouldn't be addicted and want to carry on, I'd just feel stupid. If it was addictive, I'd want more.
Liking the taste of something, or disliking the alternatives, does not make it an addiction.
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