Fizzy Drinks...Am i addicted? Shock me into quitting.

Fizzy Drinks...Am i addicted? Shock me into quitting.

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Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Sunday 5th August 2012
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fid said:
'd imagine something triggers alcholism, rather than it just being a case of "oh that's nice, I'll buy some more". Regardless, Alex wants to quit drinking fizzy drinks. So my advice would be to do exactly that.
Sugar is addictive. It's about brain chemistry, it has the same effect on humans as other drugs do.
Did you watch those lectures?
http://articles.nydailynews.com/2012-04-02/news/31...

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Sunday 5th August 2012
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fid said:
'd imagine something triggers alcholism, rather than it just being a case of "oh that's nice, I'll buy some more". Regardless, Alex wants to quit drinking fizzy drinks. So my advice would be to do exactly that.
Many addictions arise out of interactions with the brain's reward system which is mediated by dopamine.

Drugs such as cocaine and amphetamines directly stimulate the dopamine system and as such are highly addictive - essentially the brain gets a rush of dopamine which it associates with a good outcome, a reward, and so encourages behaviour that repeats that effect.

Sugar affects dopamine release in the brain (and also opioids for a double kick) so it can have a similar addictive effect. It's not as effective as something like cocaine so the effect is smaller, but doses of sugar are much larger and usually taken regularly and for long period of time.

fid

2,428 posts

241 months

Sunday 5th August 2012
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I didn't watch the lectures Halb, I'm just tapping away on my phone.

The guy wants to drink other drinks, regardless of sugar-brain interaction, from his initial post, I suspect he's just not tempted by the alternatives.

MacGee

2,513 posts

231 months

Sunday 5th August 2012
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Driller said:
You are right to be worried about your teeth. Sugary drinks are a major cause of cervical caries ie decay around the necks of teeth at the gum line.

This kind of decay is very unaesthetic and difficult to treat satisfactorily. It looks like this:

You really must sort out your teeth Richard! What sort of advert is that! Or is that acceptable in Paris?
Changing jobs timorrow. 26 years in one practice. Off to our new one to get it sorted. All excited.

Driller

8,310 posts

279 months

Sunday 5th August 2012
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Nah, they're all like that here, business is good wink

You haven't gone and bought another one? eek

andyjo1982

4,960 posts

211 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Morning all. Having thought about my fizzy drink intake over the course of the weekend, you lot have made me feel a bit guilty about the amount I consume, so I'm gonna try and cut right down and see how long I can go without it. So its gonna be squash at work during the day (I hardly ever drink tea or coffee) and J2O (is that ok as a substitute when I'm at the pub and driving?). I'm not giving up alcohol, I only have a proper drink once or twice a month.

Lets see how this goes...

BTW, I've not had anything fizzy since Saturday lunchtime...

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/britvic-...

http://www.coca-cola.co.uk/brands/coca-cola.html

29g of sugar in one 275ml bottle of J20 compared to 35g in a 330ml can of coke.

So if you scale up a 275ml bottle of J20 to 330ml, its about 0.2g of sugar less than a can of coke.

Doesn't seem like a great substitution to me.

GTIR

24,741 posts

267 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Every Friday I get a meal deal at Dominoes; Large pizza, garlic bread, chicken dippers, 1.5l bottle of ff coke.

I, as in just me, eat the lot but I tip the coke down the sink as it's too sugary and bad. hehe



Also, I bought about 64 cans of Mountain Dew recently and I vowed never to drink any again.

MacGee

2,513 posts

231 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Driller said:
Nah, they're all like that here, business is good wink

You haven't gone and bought another one? eek
nope this is number 3..had for 3 yrs.

andyjo1982

4,960 posts

211 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Marf said:
http://www.myfitnesspal.com/food/calories/britvic-...

http://www.coca-cola.co.uk/brands/coca-cola.html

29g of sugar in one 275ml bottle of J20 compared to 35g in a 330ml can of coke.

So if you scale up a 275ml bottle of J20 to 330ml, its about 0.2g of sugar less than a can of coke.

Doesn't seem like a great substitution to me.
Hold on a sec, is it the sugar thats bad in large regular doses, or acids? confused While J2O is not an ideal solution, apart from water, what else is there to drink if your driving and at a pub?

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Well neither are great. And I should imagine that some of the J20s will contain a good dose of citric acid.

As for alternatives, lime and soda? Alcohol free beer?

andyjo1982

4,960 posts

211 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Marf said:
Well neither are great. And I should imagine that some of the J20s will contain a good dose of citric acid.

As for alternatives, lime and soda? Alcohol free beer?
Cool, ok, cheers. Lets see how I get on...

Marf

22,907 posts

242 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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To put it in perspective, 4 cans of coke or 4 J20 is at or over your RDA for sugar.

Pretty easy to drink 4 J20 or 2 and a bit pints of coke of an evening.

Edited by Marf on Monday 6th August 11:20

Halb

53,012 posts

184 months

Monday 6th August 2012
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Indeed.

Soda and flavour is a drink for the really health conscious in pubs.

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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andyjo1982 said:
Hold on a sec, is it the sugar thats bad in large regular doses, or acids? confused While J2O is not an ideal solution, apart from water, what else is there to drink if your driving and at a pub?
Both are bad for your teeth. Sugar is also bad for getting fat on top of that. Diet drinks cut the sugar out at least (still acidic though) as another option.

spud989

2,753 posts

181 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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Driller said:
Does it not bother you that your desires and decisions are being controlled by a can of fking sodapop?

GTIAlex

Original Poster:

1,935 posts

167 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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Driller said:
You are right to be worried about your teeth. Sugary drinks are a major cause of cervical caries ie decay around the necks of teeth at the gum line.

This kind of decay is very unaesthetic and difficult to treat satisfactorily. It looks like this:

Okay thats pretty much all i needed

GTIAlex

Original Poster:

1,935 posts

167 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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As for pre bottled drinks then, is it best to avoid anything with sugar and any acids in their ingredients?

You cant win really, for example the zero sugar powerade i have next to me has no sugar but acids all through the ingredients :\

Water is just so boring.

Munter

31,319 posts

242 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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GTIAlex said:
As for pre bottled drinks then, is it best to avoid anything with sugar and any acids in their ingredients?

You cant win really, for example the zero sugar powerade i have next to me has no sugar but acids all through the ingredients :\

Water is just so boring.
Tea? (Without Sugar!)

Flibble

6,476 posts

182 months

Tuesday 7th August 2012
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Tea, coffee, water are your healthy choices. No sugar in the tea and coffee obviously. wink

Drink water for a few weeks, you'll soon get used to it.