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z4chris99
Original Poster
5,716 posts
48 months
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off on holiday with some friends to sunnier shores on what will be mainly pool / beach based laziness. The idea is to lose my belly in 5 weeks. I'm 25, 5,11" and 80kg I was vaguely fit, playing rugby etc but injured my ACL etc in feb and got a bit fatter. I started at 76/77 , went upto 88ish at my fattest and have cut back to 80 in the last month ish by exercise and not eating s  t, (mostly tuna) how do I get rid of the belly? in 5 weeks. would be nice to see the abs I once had 7 years ago. what do I eat? what cv do I do? what gym do I do?
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Gwagon111
3,366 posts
30 months
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5 weeks is a very short time frame. Starve yourself (no more than 700Kcals a day) do loads of squats, and run. It will hurt, but it should work. I went from a frankly quite powerfully built 6ft 2, 106-110Kgs about a year ago, to a svelt 65Kgs at present. I started the ball rolling with a balanced but (relatively tiny portioned) low cal diet.
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z4chris99
Original Poster
5,716 posts
48 months
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oh yeh forgot to say, I'm not allowed to run. or any other impact exercise on my knee.
I can cycle, cross train or swim (ish)
I've been eating tuna for breakfast, a salad for lunch with no sauce and tuna for supper. it's about 700 cals or less. someone said I should eat more or my metabolism will slow down???
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davepoth
19,903 posts
68 months
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700 is probably enough for starvation. Probably best to do two days of 700 calories and then 5 days of normal eating a week and really put in the miles in the pool or on the bike.
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Halb
17,858 posts
52 months
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It's time for experimentation.
Try either keto diet of alternative day fasting. Chatting to a few people, these have provided rapid results.
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z4chris99
Original Poster
5,716 posts
48 months
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alternate day fasting? I presume that is eating 700cal of protein day one and f k all the next? keto sounds s t, I'd never keep it up.
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Halb
17,858 posts
52 months
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z4chris99 said: alternate day fasting? I presume that is eating 700cal of protein day one and f k all the next? One day stick to 500/600 cals, next day....eat what you like!!!!  
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davepoth
19,903 posts
68 months
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z4chris99 said: alternate day fasting? I presume that is eating 700cal of protein day one and f k all the next? keto sounds s t, I'd never keep it up. Nope, normal one day, 700 cal the next.
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goldblum
6,753 posts
36 months
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Watch your diet like a hawk.Cycle relatively hard for 1.5 hrs every day.
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Hoofy
47,905 posts
151 months
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Is it really as easy as that?
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didelydoo
2,161 posts
79 months
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Hoofy said: Is it really as easy as that? Yup.
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Hoofy
47,905 posts
151 months
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Hm. When I was doing 1200 calories a day and 20km on the gym bike every other day for a month, it didn't seem to go in the right direction. (I was also lifting heavy.)
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didelydoo
2,161 posts
79 months
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Hoofy said: Hm. When I was doing 1200 calories a day and 20km on the gym bike every other day for a month, it didn't seem to go in the right direction. (I was also lifting heavy.) But the OP is in a different position to someone who's conditioned to training.
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Hoofy
47,905 posts
151 months
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didelydoo said: But the OP is in a different position to someone who's conditioned to training. Ohhh. As you were, then! Shock to the system and all that, eh?
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goldblum
6,753 posts
36 months
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Hoofy said: Is it really as easy as that? You're forgetting the training effect which means each session will need to get progressively harder relative to the OPs first session, as the body gets used to the workload. It's likely after 4 weeks a person doing this sort of training will be exercising at an intensity they thought impossible when they started. Perhaps this is the mistake you made Hoofy?
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Hoofy
47,905 posts
151 months
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goldblum said: You're forgetting the training effect which means each session will need to get progressively harder relative to the OPs first session, as the body gets used to the workload.
It's likely after 4 weeks a person doing this sort of training will be exercising at an intensity they thought impossible when they started.
Perhaps this is the mistake you made Hoofy? Not sure. I was progressively increasing the time spent on the bike.
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dave_s13
8,372 posts
138 months
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You could also look at "The Harcombe Diet for Men".
If you keep strictly to the first stage of that for a few weeks then you'll def lose weight.
In my expereince it a bit easier to maintain than a conventional "starve yourself" diet.
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z4chris99
Original Poster
5,716 posts
48 months
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Im pretty good at the old starvation, I don't really get hungry untill about 1pm, then a salad does me fine untill supper, and then happy with a diet whey shake and a bit of celery. it's the diet coke that keeps me going.
did 51 mins / 18km on the bike last night then weights. will repeat tonight but more bike.
put on my 32" waist suit today for the first time in ages!
5 weeks I reckon I need to lose 5/6 kg? possible?
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LordGrover
18,630 posts
81 months
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davepoth said: z4chris99 said: alternate day fasting? I presume that is eating 700cal of protein day one and f k all the next? keto sounds s t, I'd never keep it up. Nope, normal one day, 700 cal the next. Not necessarily.  A literal 24 hour fast a couple or three times a week can be very effective. If you take the 24 hour period as 1800 - 1800 hours you never go a 'day' without food, just a 24 hour period IYSWIM. You're effectively just skipping breakfast and lunch.
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Hoofy
47,905 posts
151 months
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Out of interest, why does it have to be 24 hours? Why not 23 or 25? Or 20? Or 18?
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