PH Transformation Winter Thread 2012 - Chat
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Not entirely sure whether to participate in a formal capacity or not... my bf% has certainly dropped from 20% to maybe 14% and I do notice it but I was really going for lower (10%). If this was a year's challenge, I'd probably have made it. I don't know how competition bodybuilders go from normal fat levels to 8% in such a short time (I've read a few e-books). Certainly, I'm fine at losing fat... just not fast.
Ordinary_Chap said:
From 20% to 14% is a good effort buddy.
If you're anything like me then once you get like below 15% it can be a slow and painful process to go lower however its achievable if you push on.
Which is exactly the reason why I want you to enter this competition! Lets face it what is 'health matters' without Hoofy?
Lee
You just want to see topless photos of me. Admit it. Speaking of which, I ought to get some done and post in the other thread.If you're anything like me then once you get like below 15% it can be a slow and painful process to go lower however its achievable if you push on.
Which is exactly the reason why I want you to enter this competition! Lets face it what is 'health matters' without Hoofy?
Lee
Ordinary_Chap said:
Hoofy said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
From 20% to 14% is a good effort buddy.
If you're anything like me then once you get like below 15% it can be a slow and painful process to go lower however its achievable if you push on.
Which is exactly the reason why I want you to enter this competition! Lets face it what is 'health matters' without Hoofy?
Lee
You just want to see topless photos of me. Admit it. Speaking of which, I ought to get some done and post in the other thread.If you're anything like me then once you get like below 15% it can be a slow and painful process to go lower however its achievable if you push on.
Which is exactly the reason why I want you to enter this competition! Lets face it what is 'health matters' without Hoofy?
Lee
Ordinary_Chap said:
Hoofy said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
Hoofy said:
Ordinary_Chap said:
From 20% to 14% is a good effort buddy.
If you're anything like me then once you get like below 15% it can be a slow and painful process to go lower however its achievable if you push on.
Which is exactly the reason why I want you to enter this competition! Lets face it what is 'health matters' without Hoofy?
Lee
You just want to see topless photos of me. Admit it. Speaking of which, I ought to get some done and post in the other thread.If you're anything like me then once you get like below 15% it can be a slow and painful process to go lower however its achievable if you push on.
Which is exactly the reason why I want you to enter this competition! Lets face it what is 'health matters' without Hoofy?
Lee
Anyway, I suspect it would be wise to stop this tangent!
Aye aye - as expected, I'm in.
I've lost a bundle of weight, so now I'm going to go on a vanity trip.
I'm currently skinny and weak, like the kid who gets sand kicked into his face at the beach. Come March 2013, I shall not be that kid.
I plan to have a play about with high intensity cardio on the bike (Sufferfest DVDs) and do bodyweight or light, high rep bar/dumbell work which is all aimed at sorting out the back and knock-on issues that prevent me from running.
Hopefully, a by-product of this will be a body more like the guy who plays Steve McGarrett on Hawaii 5-0 than the last kid to get picked for football.
I've lost a bundle of weight, so now I'm going to go on a vanity trip.
I'm currently skinny and weak, like the kid who gets sand kicked into his face at the beach. Come March 2013, I shall not be that kid.
I plan to have a play about with high intensity cardio on the bike (Sufferfest DVDs) and do bodyweight or light, high rep bar/dumbell work which is all aimed at sorting out the back and knock-on issues that prevent me from running.
Hopefully, a by-product of this will be a body more like the guy who plays Steve McGarrett on Hawaii 5-0 than the last kid to get picked for football.
I suddenly recall that I was going to test out bodyweight exercises properly. Given that I've not exactly got the amazing physique most guys would dream of, does anyone think I'd be best off sticking to weights or could I benefit just as well from bodyweight training with enough thought and research? It's not that I don't have the weights, but you see Olympic male gymnasts with decent physiques and have to wonder.
Thoughts?
Thoughts?
Hoofy said:
I suddenly recall that I was going to test out bodyweight exercises properly. Given that I've not exactly got the amazing physique most guys would dream of, does anyone think I'd be best off sticking to weights or could I benefit just as well from bodyweight training with enough thought and research? It's not that I don't have the weights, but you see Olympic male gymnasts with decent physiques and have to wonder.
Thoughts?
I would imagine those gymnasts lift a lot of heavy weights, with compound movements as well as all their standard stuff. Could be completely wrong though! My theory being that they need to keep a good strength base all round, and they wouldn't get that purely from their competition type movements.Thoughts?
OllyK said:
Hoofy said:
I suddenly recall that I was going to test out bodyweight exercises properly. Given that I've not exactly got the amazing physique most guys would dream of, does anyone think I'd be best off sticking to weights or could I benefit just as well from bodyweight training with enough thought and research? It's not that I don't have the weights, but you see Olympic male gymnasts with decent physiques and have to wonder.
Thoughts?
I would imagine those gymnasts lift a lot of heavy weights, with compound movements as well as all their standard stuff. Could be completely wrong though! My theory being that they need to keep a good strength base all round, and they wouldn't get that purely from their competition type movements.Thoughts?
Interview with a London 2012 competitor (39 years old!!): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zeJ_RN36YdY&fea...
You can see how he trains.
Hoofy said:
I suddenly recall that I was going to test out bodyweight exercises properly. Given that I've not exactly got the amazing physique most guys would dream of, does anyone think I'd be best off sticking to weights or could I benefit just as well from bodyweight training with enough thought and research? It's not that I don't have the weights, but you see Olympic male gymnasts with decent physiques and have to wonder.
Thoughts?
I shall watch for answers with interest. I too am thinking of doing a good segment of low/bodyweight exercises and seeing if I get definition benefits, joint benefits and so on. My connective tissue is so weak I almost have no choice at the moment, but it'll be interesting. I'll outline my ideas in a separate and tediously lengthy post so as not to hijack...Thoughts?
Anecdotally, I have a mate who is in the forces and fit as a butcher's dog, and he advised I bin the gym weights and do high volume low weight training, bodyweight training, circuits and cardio. 99% of the population would kill for his physique, but I should add, he'd done a good decade of much heavier weights beforehand, so all "blank" canvasses are not equal, so to speak...
Smitters said:
I shall watch for answers with interest. I too am thinking of doing a good segment of low/bodyweight exercises and seeing if I get definition benefits, joint benefits and so on. My connective tissue is so weak I almost have no choice at the moment, but it'll be interesting. I'll outline my ideas in a separate and tediously lengthy post so as not to hijack...
Anecdotally, I have a mate who is in the forces and fit as a butcher's dog, and he advised I bin the gym weights and do high volume low weight training, bodyweight training, circuits and cardio. 99% of the population would kill for his physique, but I should add, he'd done a good decade of much heavier weights beforehand, so all "blank" canvasses are not equal, so to speak...
Yes, please start a new thread. I shall look out for it!Anecdotally, I have a mate who is in the forces and fit as a butcher's dog, and he advised I bin the gym weights and do high volume low weight training, bodyweight training, circuits and cardio. 99% of the population would kill for his physique, but I should add, he'd done a good decade of much heavier weights beforehand, so all "blank" canvasses are not equal, so to speak...
BenM77 said:
@Hoofy
Good work so far mate, are you going to tweak your diet to start putting some weight on ?
Thanks!Good work so far mate, are you going to tweak your diet to start putting some weight on ?
Although I'll sound like I have a mental illness... I haven't finished cutting! I will continue to lift heavy (my strength seems to be going up still!!) with a very gentle calorie deficit until I either reach 10% bodyfat or am certified and end up requiring therapy for my eating disorder.
Then I will increase my intake to 2000 calories a day and continue lifting. Challenges are great but I'm in this for the long run.
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