PH Transformation Winter Thread 2012 - Chat
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Asterix said:
Yes mate - Dubai for nearly ten years now.
Obviously, it's damn hot during the summer. From May through to around now the temps are constantly in the 40, reaching the 50s in July & August (although they don't like to admit that it gets over 50 as the law states that all outside work has to halt and that would mean the poor b
ds building 'the dream' could down tools). Only the commited are out running and only very early in the morning. September and October start to cool off a bit but the real killer is the humidity that kicks in. It's unbearable from the afternoon onwards. Towards the end of October it starts to get nice and then you're fine all the way through to April/May again.
The gyms are all A/Ced so that's fine but you can find that the low oxygen content in the air from the heat (less dense air) can affect things.
Ouch. I guess at least over there air-con in gyms is pretty much a given.Obviously, it's damn hot during the summer. From May through to around now the temps are constantly in the 40, reaching the 50s in July & August (although they don't like to admit that it gets over 50 as the law states that all outside work has to halt and that would mean the poor b
ds building 'the dream' could down tools). Only the commited are out running and only very early in the morning. September and October start to cool off a bit but the real killer is the humidity that kicks in. It's unbearable from the afternoon onwards. Towards the end of October it starts to get nice and then you're fine all the way through to April/May again.The gyms are all A/Ced so that's fine but you can find that the low oxygen content in the air from the heat (less dense air) can affect things.
It's the lower oxygen that I figured would make it so much tougher. We were out in Ayia Napa last summer and it was averaging 40 daytime, with 28-30 at night and me & a mate (who also does a fair bit of training) decided on going for an early morning run to see what it was like- we jogged (not ran) barely a mile before retiring to the pool and that was tougher than any run I've done before or since!
I can only imagine Dubai is an order of magnitude worse.
Squirrelofwoe said:
Ouch. I guess at least over there air-con in gyms is pretty much a given.
It's the lower oxygen that I figured would make it so much tougher. We were out in Ayia Napa last summer and it was averaging 40 daytime, with 28-30 at night and me & a mate (who also does a fair bit of training) decided on going for an early morning run to see what it was like- we jogged (not ran) barely a mile before retiring to the pool and that was tougher than any run I've done before or since!
I can only imagine Dubai is an order of magnitude worse.
I've had it before where even in the office during the worst of the summer I've started to sort of pant! Just the body trying to get as much oxygen in as possible. What should be interesting is I'm off to Kathmandu for a 5 day trip towards the end of October. I'm still going to be training so I'm expecting an endurance hit going from sea level to 4,600ft.It's the lower oxygen that I figured would make it so much tougher. We were out in Ayia Napa last summer and it was averaging 40 daytime, with 28-30 at night and me & a mate (who also does a fair bit of training) decided on going for an early morning run to see what it was like- we jogged (not ran) barely a mile before retiring to the pool and that was tougher than any run I've done before or since!
I can only imagine Dubai is an order of magnitude worse.
Ordinary_Chap said:
I think this goes to show there are several ways to get big however the person doing high reps isn't likely to be as strong as the heavy lifter even if he is the same size.
It's an interesting point, when I started out, I'd ask folk how they got big and people would say they've done lots of things over the years but one common factor is, a lot of folk don't know how they've managed it.
The truth is working intensely and methodically over a long period of time you should see growth although that doesn't mean doing anything over a long period of time is the best way to go as some folk get there in half the time and there will be more efficient ways to go as ever.
The problem with anecdotal evidence like this is, its not just training that is important but lifestyle, diet and in a lot of big dudes cases, drugs.
So the way I approach training now is using periodisation, i.e. I do periods of high reps/drop sets and periods of strength training.
This is my take on talking to people about lifting.
Lee
I think a large part of the problem of determining what works, is a lot of people make gains despite what they're doing, not because of what they're doing. It's very easy to fall for x method/schedule/diet/etc but unless it's examined in isolation it's impossible to say whether it was the diet, or the drop sets, or the prolonged eccentric phase, or extra rest or whatever else you've changed or got right this week/month.It's an interesting point, when I started out, I'd ask folk how they got big and people would say they've done lots of things over the years but one common factor is, a lot of folk don't know how they've managed it.
The truth is working intensely and methodically over a long period of time you should see growth although that doesn't mean doing anything over a long period of time is the best way to go as some folk get there in half the time and there will be more efficient ways to go as ever.
The problem with anecdotal evidence like this is, its not just training that is important but lifestyle, diet and in a lot of big dudes cases, drugs.
So the way I approach training now is using periodisation, i.e. I do periods of high reps/drop sets and periods of strength training.
This is my take on talking to people about lifting.
Lee
The long and short of it is lift heavy things with good form. Consume more than maintenance to gain muscle/mass and consume less than maintenance to reduce mass.
Squirrelofwoe said:
Asterix said:
I'm still going to be training so I'm expecting an endurance hit going from sea level to 4,600ft.
Good luck chap!Just don't over-do it, that will take the body some adjusting to!
Today ive done my first early morning workout ever. Ive never had chance to go in a morning before and im defo not a morning person.
Swam 40 lenghs tbh i didnt think i would enjoy training early but its ok just smashed a strong brew before i went. The gym looked pretty much empty to so probably get in there to.
Hopefully i wont fall asleep at my desk later
Swam 40 lenghs tbh i didnt think i would enjoy training early but its ok just smashed a strong brew before i went. The gym looked pretty much empty to so probably get in there to.
Hopefully i wont fall asleep at my desk later
theshrew said:
Today ive done my first early morning workout ever. Ive never had chance to go in a morning before and im defo not a morning person.
Swam 40 lenghs tbh i didnt think i would enjoy training early but its ok just smashed a strong brew before i went. The gym looked pretty much empty to so probably get in there to.
Hopefully i wont fall asleep at my desk later
I started training first a couple of weeks ago - loving it. I have to get up a tad earlier but avoid a lot of traffic and start my working day properly awake and refreshed. Gym's quieter too. Swam 40 lenghs tbh i didnt think i would enjoy training early but its ok just smashed a strong brew before i went. The gym looked pretty much empty to so probably get in there to.
Hopefully i wont fall asleep at my desk later
I didn't manage to wake up for an early session this morning. I've changed my diet quite considerably this week. It's now much more protein based and less carbs. One thing I gave noticed is I am sleeping a lot more and better. Last couple of nights I've been easily asleep by 11 where normally I'd be a few hours later. It's certainly making mornings easier. I think once I start hitting the cardio though I'll start to notice the lack of energy and will have to increase my carbs a bit. Will see how it feels though.
Unfortunately, it is pretty much.
Fish gets very bland very quickly - Steak is ok but without a nice calorie laden sauce it also gets a bit bland and is expensive - Turkey I find is too dry and that's about it! I'm preferring wholewheat pasta to brown rice as the complex carb of choice and I like broccoli, so no worries there.
Chicken is by far my favourite and it comes out beautifuly tender from the Foreman Grill. I have it with either a smidge of mustard or pepper sauce.
Fish gets very bland very quickly - Steak is ok but without a nice calorie laden sauce it also gets a bit bland and is expensive - Turkey I find is too dry and that's about it! I'm preferring wholewheat pasta to brown rice as the complex carb of choice and I like broccoli, so no worries there.
Chicken is by far my favourite and it comes out beautifuly tender from the Foreman Grill. I have it with either a smidge of mustard or pepper sauce.
Sushi said:
At the moment I'm making a big chilli or chicken curry on Sunday evenings and then it does for the week.
Would I be able to do this with rice? you hear horror stories of heating up rice and food poisoning.
I looked this up yesterday as i want to try and get some more carbs down me just to see what happens. Would I be able to do this with rice? you hear horror stories of heating up rice and food poisoning.
Anyway i think you are ok with rice in a sealed container in the fridge for about 4 days or frozen for about 6 months. I just heated some up at lunch not got the s
ts yet lol. If you look what bodybuilders do they cook and store loads of stuff for days even upto a weeks worth of stuff at once.
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