PH Transformation Winter Thread 2012 - Chat
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theshrew said:
Ah i see im with you now cheers.
Presume your just doing stuff working off calories not working to particular marco's ?
Im not sure what to do with the diet side of things yet might start introducing some more carbs brown rice or something maybe just on workout days. Ive tried to get more veg down at lunch rather than just with my eavening meal. Only done that for a few days so far though.
That's right - I am just aiming for 1700 a day. I try to eat more protein and I'm eating enough vegetables and fruit plus nuts and seeds (in salad; I don't count a sprinkling of seeds) so I should be getting enough nutrition-wise.Presume your just doing stuff working off calories not working to particular marco's ?
Im not sure what to do with the diet side of things yet might start introducing some more carbs brown rice or something maybe just on workout days. Ive tried to get more veg down at lunch rather than just with my eavening meal. Only done that for a few days so far though.
If you're just trying to cut, I cannot see why you have to eat ultra healthily. I have PMed so many on MFP who have got physiques I aspire to have and not one of them has said anything like "you must only eat salads and tuna" or "vegan is the only way". They eat crap like a 40 stone person... they just eat less of it (they also eat healthy foods... ie they eat without type restrictions). Now, the caveat is that if you eat too much salt, you will have a tendency to retain water, I understand. And it's far better to eat healthily so I am not going to advise that you eat s
t and ruin your health. Point is, the paunch-bearing Jamie Oliver goes on about healthy eating... not really the best person to talk.Hoofy said:
That's right - I am just aiming for 1700 a day. I try to eat more protein and I'm eating enough vegetables and fruit plus nuts and seeds (in salad; I don't count a sprinkling of seeds) so I should be getting enough nutrition-wise.
If you're just trying to cut, I cannot see why you have to eat ultra healthily. I have PMed so many on MFP who have got physiques I aspire to have and not one of them has said anything like "you must only eat salads and tuna" or "vegan is the only way". They eat crap like a 40 stone person... they just eat less of it (they also eat healthy foods... ie they eat without type restrictions). Now, the caveat is that if you eat too much salt, you will have a tendency to retain water, I understand. And it's far better to eat healthily so I am not going to advise that you eat st and ruin your health. Point is, the paunch-bearing Jamie Oliver goes on about healthy eating... not really the best person to talk.
For the moment im going to cut a little. Will get back into training next week only able to do a few sessions for a couple of weeks then it will be all out. If you're just trying to cut, I cannot see why you have to eat ultra healthily. I have PMed so many on MFP who have got physiques I aspire to have and not one of them has said anything like "you must only eat salads and tuna" or "vegan is the only way". They eat crap like a 40 stone person... they just eat less of it (they also eat healthy foods... ie they eat without type restrictions). Now, the caveat is that if you eat too much salt, you will have a tendency to retain water, I understand. And it's far better to eat healthily so I am not going to advise that you eat s
t and ruin your health. Point is, the paunch-bearing Jamie Oliver goes on about healthy eating... not really the best person to talk.Not sure what training im going to follow yet going to wait till i go all out to stick to a plan. Might try a Kris Gethin plan.
theshrew said:
How are you finding it ?
I've resigned myself to the diet, which while I understand the benfits etc.. it is dull as. Hot sauce is now my best friend. The first week I was in bits but that's to be expected - legs especially - but now I'm recovering from each session far better. I'm making sure I'm getting plenty of glutamine which is probably helping.It's a mix of medium and high rep stuff and can be pretty intense sometimes - legs can be brutal. For instance, 4 sets of 50 hack squats is fun even with not a lot of weight. In fact the worst bit for me is not my legs giving out but my lack of cardio fitness and I'm sucking air through my arse after about 30 reps. I need to concentrate on my breathing more and just rest a bit, catch my breath and then push through it.
How do I feel/look/weigh?
Feel - good actually. The diet means I have a good constant energy level through the day without any dips. I've had positive strength gains all over, feel more 'dynamic' and my body has tightened up nicely. Can't explain it better than that really.
Look - Missus says my love handles are definately reducing and I can see there is progress elsewhere. I'm still getting bloated a bit during the day, which I put down to lots of food and loads of water. As I live in Dubai, I have to keep my salt levels high as the weather here (still in the 40s) means that you can get quite hot and bothered - so I'm probably holding a fair bit of water. That said, I definitely have a flatter stomach first thing in the morning - I'm assuming the rest will follow as its still early days. You'll see when I throw up my starting images soon that I look like a pregnant stick - that is changing.
Weight - no idea, it's not a concern tbh. I put the diet into myfitnesspal and it said I was taking in around 2,800 cals so I don't expect to drop weight, if any, quickly - I want to move it about!
Generaly, the cardio has been easy to fit in. Stopping the booze has been easier than I thought. We had a party at ours this weekend and the missus insisted I have a glass of red. I made one glass last all night while I downed over 3 litres of water. Didn't feel right drinking considering how hard I'm working elsewhere to make this work. Normally I'd have inhaled it along with a couple of bottles.
All good so far.
As for training, just do anything you enjoy, really. I've got a bit exploratory so look for ideas to test out - at the moment, doing stuff like st loads of hang cleans and hang pulls (today, 10 hang cleans every minute for 10 minutes, then ten hang pulls every minute for 10 minutes to finish off the usual weights routine). I'm not feeling so good right now. 
t loads of hang cleans and hang pulls (today, 10 hang cleans every minute for 10 minutes, then ten hang pulls every minute for 10 minutes to finish off the usual weights routine). I'm not feeling so good right now. theshrew said:
Nice stuff mate it does look like a real full on plan from the vids ive seen so far.
On the food side of things the plan is a little vague on the quataties it just tells you what to eat. Did i miss something ? How are you measuring stuff or dont you bother ?
The portions are 'fist size'. I measured that way to start with and then had a look at what it was in 'real' measurements. It worked out pretty well for me. Chicken was 200g, carbs were a cup and a cup of broccoli. When I put into myfitnesspal it came out balanced.On the food side of things the plan is a little vague on the quataties it just tells you what to eat. Did i miss something ? How are you measuring stuff or dont you bother ?
Asterix said:
The portions are 'fist size'. I measured that way to start with and then had a look at what it was in 'real' measurements. It worked out pretty well for me. Chicken was 200g, carbs were a cup and a cup of broccoli. When I put into myfitnesspal it came out balanced.
Thats a hell of a lot of food for me to eat each day thats the only thing that puts me off this program. For eg today ive had
8.00am Protien Shake with skimmed milk
9.30am 1 x packet of oats + some bran flakes tea spoon of honey and sprinkle of cinemon.
1.15 1 piece of haddock some broc sweet chili sauce
5.30 225g of chicken breast, broc, garden peas, broad beans, green beans and gravy
Im stuffed. Going to try to add some brown rice in and measure stuff more to see how i get on i think.
Anyone know how long rice keeps for in the fridge if i cook a batch ?
theshrew said:
Asterix said:
The portions are 'fist size'. I measured that way to start with and then had a look at what it was in 'real' measurements. It worked out pretty well for me. Chicken was 200g, carbs were a cup and a cup of broccoli. When I put into myfitnesspal it came out balanced.
Thats a hell of a lot of food for me to eat each day thats the only thing that puts me off this program. For eg today ive had
8.00am Protien Shake with skimmed milk
9.30am 1 x packet of oats + some bran flakes tea spoon of honey and sprinkle of cinemon.
1.15 1 piece of haddock some broc sweet chili sauce
5.30 225g of chicken breast, broc, garden peas, broad beans, green beans and gravy
Im stuffed. Going to try to add some brown rice in and measure stuff more to see how i get on i think.
Anyone know how long rice keeps for in the fridge if i cook a batch ?
Read this joke of an article this morning in the Metro:
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/world/911718-real-life...
10 years of hard work ay....
*cough* synthol..
http://www.metro.co.uk/news/world/911718-real-life...
10 years of hard work ay....
*cough* synthol..
you got it!You generally can't go wrong with MyProtein's Impact Whey. It's not as cheap as it used to be but a lot of people use it. Someone will along in a minute to provide a discount code. Order one of their shakers as well, the ones with a wire ball are much much better than the grid lid ones. They are £2.50 I think.
deadmau5 said:
You generally can't go wrong with MyProtein's Impact Whey. It's not as cheap as it used to be but a lot of people use it. Someone will along in a minute to provide a discount code. Order one of their shakers as well, the ones with a wire ball are much much better than the grid lid ones. They are £2.50 I think.
Yes i have this it good. Bodybuilding wharehouse are supoosed to be good and cheap ive not tried it yet
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